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  kol56

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Joined: 8/08/12
Posts: 130

9/05/12 5:11:33 AM#241
Originally posted by Meowhead
Originally posted by Seelinnikoi

My question is such because I get the feeling people are giving praise to GW2 on the basis it is free. And I wanted to know if you picked up that game and made it with subs, if people would still play it on the merits of game quality and content alone, not because it was free.

 

There are some games in which people would be happy to pay subs because they are good, customer support is good and the updates come in a timely fashion.

But there are other games who are free who unfortunately leave a lot to be desired.

 There are some people who don't want to play subs, and still think a lot of those sub paying games are shitty enough they wouldn't play them if they were completely free.

Your poll is hardly scientific. :<

Actually, correction.  Your poll is downright horrible, and poorly written and extremely biased.

It's practically useless. :(

Oh no he didn't !!!

 

Now let's be serious... if something biased is useless and horrible, we are all screwed.

It's just a poll with a little bit of baiting, but it actually makes sense in a weird way.

Why so hostile? such strong words!

At least there is a cute face at the end, that was good.

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  Meowhead

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9/05/12 5:14:53 AM#242
Originally posted by kol56

Oh no he didn't !!!

 

Now let's be serious... if something biased is useless and horrible, we are all screwed.

It's just a poll with a little bit of baiting, but it actually makes sense in a weird way.

Why so hostile? such strong words!

At least there is a cute face at the end, that was good.

 Why?  Because horribly done polls are one of my pet peeves.  I don't like it when politicians do it, but at least they're doing it... y'know, well.  (Or better, anyway)

In MMORPG.com it's almost completely filled with polls that are horribly biased, deeply flawed AND poorly written.

They're no good for getting any sort of useful information out of, and they're mostly added because somebody thinks they're being really clever.

... and when the answer shows something they don't want (Despite it being horribly written and slanted), nobody ever mans up and goes 'Well, crap, I was wrong, data shows my opinion is more worthless than usual!".

So I'm on protest against bad polls.  (No matter whether I agree with the poll maker or not.)

Sort of like some people don't like hearing about kittens being abused, I don't like polls being abused. :)

 

  User Deleted
9/05/12 5:21:25 AM#243
i find unnecessary to pay gw2 monthly fee. because only sandboxes can take ma money.
  Seelinnikoi

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Joined: 2/11/11
Posts: 528

 
OP  9/09/12 10:50:00 AM#244
Originally posted by Speire
i find unnecessary to pay gw2 monthly fee. because only sandboxes can take ma money.

Same with me, but sadly there are not that many sandboxes out there who I would gladly pay.

  Yamota

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Joined: 10/05/03
Posts: 6506

"I fight so you don't have to."

9/09/12 10:51:39 AM#245
No probably not, maybe for a month or so. ThemeParks dont have staying power to warrant a sub. fee.

  shiner421

Advanced Member

Joined: 1/26/07
Posts: 44

9/09/12 10:54:07 AM#246
I wouldnt hesitate to play this game even if it had a $20 a month sub. I refuse to play other sub games as they are not what I am looking for.
  Fdzzaigl

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Joined: 8/22/09
Posts: 2044

9/09/12 11:34:38 AM#247

"What if" questions are always sort of pointless, it doesn't have a sub, that's reality.

But heck, yeah I'd play it, but only if they got rid of some other things in the game first (cash shop + sub isn't acceptable for me).

Feel free to use my referral link for SW:TOR if you want to test out the game. You'll get some special unlocks!

  Golelorn

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/23/03
Posts: 1058

9/09/12 11:39:17 AM#248
Nope. The gameplay is way too boring and predictable. Pretty disappointed, but then again it is a MMO. So, par for the course. Good job on being totally unoriginal Anet.
  User Deleted
9/09/12 11:41:46 AM#249
Probably not, no.
  koljane

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Joined: 3/01/10
Posts: 129

9/09/12 11:41:47 AM#250

GW2 is as any other MMO that came after WOW, good for like 1-3 months and that is it. Big, BIG + is that there is no sub that is fair considering that ppl who are behing GW2 knew that their game would go in flame after 1st month if they have put any amount of money as monthly fee.

Their is nothing revolutionary in GW2 cause nothing can even be in MMO`s as gender. WOW will take down not only itselfe but the whole gender.

All MMO`s on the market should go F2P because they dont offer anything special no more.

  kartool

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/23/07
Posts: 459

9/09/12 11:54:23 AM#251
Originally posted by loulaki
Originally posted by Thillian
 

This game is actually not for explorers. The world isn't interesting enough. It is not EXPLORING if you just FOLLOW your mark on the map to the nearest VISTA. That's just blindly following a quest tracker or vista tracker in this matter. 

Exploration is if you're actually not following your map to the next vista, Exploration is if you go off the path, which is impossible in GW2, because GW2 has some attraction on every step (anti-exploration) and you can't really find anything special, which wouldn't be marked on the map already before you discovered it. GW2 world is too small and too filled up with all these mini attractions, which can be seen on your map long before you actually discover them.

if you play the game press "H" and then look at achievments at the explore section, and count how many achievments are for secret jumping quests which are not in the map, and for each one you need at least 1 hour if you dont read spoil-guides about them, ah yes there is no indication for these in your map ^^

Platforming doesn't belong in MMO's especially when playing a Norn character and the camera gets stupid anytime you try to do a jumping puzzle.

This is actually one of the worst things in the game - Anet didn't do a good job with the jumping puzzles. SWTOR and  TSW did it as well and platforming is a terrible trend in MMO's lately.  I like platformers when the game is designed as a platformer but slapping it into an MMO where the controls aren't nearly responsive enough and the camera doesn't work right on certain character models... well it's just idiotic. 

  User Deleted
9/09/12 11:58:54 AM#252
Originally posted by kartool

Platforming doesn't belong in MMO's especially when playing a Norn character and the camera gets stupid anytime you try to do a jumping puzzle.

I'm playing a Norn (just hit 80 a few hours ago) and I had zero problems with jumping puzzles and the camera. But I guess some people need to blame anything else than themself when they fail...

  TeknoBug

Novice Member

Joined: 10/13/07
Posts: 2166

9/09/12 12:06:34 PM#253

If the game had better account security and more active customer service (3 days a week 11am to 5pm?) then yes probably.


  Illyssia

Novice Member

Joined: 8/10/09
Posts: 1523

9/09/12 12:09:25 PM#254
I think there is a launch bubble effect. But, to be honest I think the numbers loging into the servers will be a lot lower in a few months time when people have done all they want in the game. There isn't a real reason I can see to playing GW2 long term.
  grimal

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Joined: 9/11/05
Posts: 2070

9/09/12 12:14:20 PM#255

It's like having two restaurants.

I've been going to this place for years.  Food is great. service is good, all my friends go there.

This other place opens down the street.  Similar dishes although the food just isn't quite as good.  Missing that special something.  But the prices are a heck of a lot better.

I'm gonna try the cheaper place for a while, but eventually I realize, it's just not the same as the first place.  Sure it's cheaper, but in the end I'd rather get that bit of extra flavor with my food.  Plus, all my friends still go there.

"I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you." - Robin Williams

  heartless

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Joined: 1/05/04
Posts: 5057

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan

9/09/12 12:22:38 PM#256
Originally posted by kartool
Originally posted by loulaki
Originally posted by Thillian
 

This game is actually not for explorers. The world isn't interesting enough. It is not EXPLORING if you just FOLLOW your mark on the map to the nearest VISTA. That's just blindly following a quest tracker or vista tracker in this matter. 

Exploration is if you're actually not following your map to the next vista, Exploration is if you go off the path, which is impossible in GW2, because GW2 has some attraction on every step (anti-exploration) and you can't really find anything special, which wouldn't be marked on the map already before you discovered it. GW2 world is too small and too filled up with all these mini attractions, which can be seen on your map long before you actually discover them.

if you play the game press "H" and then look at achievments at the explore section, and count how many achievments are for secret jumping quests which are not in the map, and for each one you need at least 1 hour if you dont read spoil-guides about them, ah yes there is no indication for these in your map ^^

Platforming doesn't belong in MMO's especially when playing a Norn character and the camera gets stupid anytime you try to do a jumping puzzle.

This is actually one of the worst things in the game - Anet didn't do a good job with the jumping puzzles. SWTOR and  TSW did it as well and platforming is a terrible trend in MMO's lately.  I like platformers when the game is designed as a platformer but slapping it into an MMO where the controls aren't nearly responsive enough and the camera doesn't work right on certain character models... well it's just idiotic. 

Not all puzzles require platforming. People tend to call them "jump puzzles" and some of them are but there are puzzles that have no jumping or a combination of puzzle solving and jumping. For example, Professor Portmatt's Lab has no jumping at all, it's all puzzle solving.

Besides, completely optional platforming has it's place. The puzzles in GW2 are top notch, not only for an MMO but for SP games as well.

  kartool

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/23/07
Posts: 459

9/09/12 1:52:40 PM#257
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by kartool
Originally posted by loulaki
Originally posted by Thillian
 

This game is actually not for explorers. The world isn't interesting enough. It is not EXPLORING if you just FOLLOW your mark on the map to the nearest VISTA. That's just blindly following a quest tracker or vista tracker in this matter. 

Exploration is if you're actually not following your map to the next vista, Exploration is if you go off the path, which is impossible in GW2, because GW2 has some attraction on every step (anti-exploration) and you can't really find anything special, which wouldn't be marked on the map already before you discovered it. GW2 world is too small and too filled up with all these mini attractions, which can be seen on your map long before you actually discover them.

if you play the game press "H" and then look at achievments at the explore section, and count how many achievments are for secret jumping quests which are not in the map, and for each one you need at least 1 hour if you dont read spoil-guides about them, ah yes there is no indication for these in your map ^^

Platforming doesn't belong in MMO's especially when playing a Norn character and the camera gets stupid anytime you try to do a jumping puzzle.

This is actually one of the worst things in the game - Anet didn't do a good job with the jumping puzzles. SWTOR and  TSW did it as well and platforming is a terrible trend in MMO's lately.  I like platformers when the game is designed as a platformer but slapping it into an MMO where the controls aren't nearly responsive enough and the camera doesn't work right on certain character models... well it's just idiotic. 

Not all puzzles require platforming. People tend to call them "jump puzzles" and some of them are but there are puzzles that have no jumping or a combination of puzzle solving and jumping. For example, Professor Portmatt's Lab has no jumping at all, it's all puzzle solving.

Besides, completely optional platforming has it's place. The puzzles in GW2 are top notch, not only for an MMO but for SP games as well.

I never said all the puzzles require platforming?

The platforming isn't really optional when it's tied to the completion of zones. It's just a trend I personally am not enjoying in MMO's lately. Platforming or jump puzzles are crappy when the game's primary purpose isn't that genre and the engine, camera, etc aren't designed around it.

It's frustrating to have to try and complete some of these jump puzzles when it's the game engine itself that's causing the problem with completion, not player skill.

  kartool

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Joined: 12/23/07
Posts: 459

9/09/12 1:56:34 PM#258
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by kartool

Platforming doesn't belong in MMO's especially when playing a Norn character and the camera gets stupid anytime you try to do a jumping puzzle.

I'm playing a Norn (just hit 80 a few hours ago) and I had zero problems with jumping puzzles and the camera. But I guess some people need to blame anything else than themself when they fail...

Some people feel the need to lash out at others in order to make themselves feel good. But, yeah I must totally be making up this well documented issue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P098vxXbQAw

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/support/bugs/Camera-control-issues-a-documented-list

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/57345-wish-i-hadnt-picked-norn/

http://www.guildwars2forum.com/threads/10349-Camera-problems

 

  Fadedbomb

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Joined: 5/19/06
Posts: 2149

9/09/12 2:01:09 PM#259

As of this moment the poll is essentially a 50/50 split. Interesting :)!

 

I think you all know which one I chose ;)!

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  ShakyMo

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Posts: 7246

9/09/12 2:03:46 PM#260
Yes because unlike every recent mmo there is stuff for me to do at endgame.

WvW
Tournaments
Maximizing crafts and exploring

All those recent mmos just had grind dungeons for 1 set if items or grind tupperware pvp for another set.
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