Originally posted by FrodoFragins
The store says otherwise.  I don't really like the amount of storage they give you without paying cash.  Other than that I have no real complaints yet.

I know this is not an option for people who want to have a lot of alts, but make a lvl 2, put 4 8 slot boxes on it and that should help with that problem. Now I just want the TP to work properly.

Originally posted by AvatarBlade

Originally posted by FrodoFragins
The store says otherwise.  I don't really like the amount of storage they give you without paying cash.  Other than that I have no real complaints yet.

I know this is not an option for people who want to have a lot of alts, but make a lvl 2, put 4 8 slot boxes on it and that should help with that problem. Now I just want the TP to work properly.

Also the option of making money in game through farming / selling stuff and trade it for gems. Of course the trolls will say thats a bad thing too, you shouldnt have to do that. But what exactly do people do when they want mor ebag space in other games? Do you just wish for it and it magically appears? Nope. Requires lots of time farming for the biggest bags, or lots of time invested in crafting to make your own bags.

people complaining about cash shop?

you do know that you can exchange ingame gold for gems, right?

Originally posted by DMKano

Originally posted by oubers

May Anet get filthy rich from this game imho.....they made a good game here imo.

IF its not about the money maybe you forumdwellers should make us a game we can all enjoy for free then huh......yeah i thought so, you wouldnt know how to even start making a game......but once yours is ready (AND STABLE), then you have the right imho to talk to Anet about being greedy.

Untill then, all you guys saying Anet is ONLY in it for the money are just full of it imho.

my 2 coppers :)

 

A top notch MMORPG costs around 40-60 million dollars to make over several years these days - this is average some obviously cost over 250mil (cough SWTOR.. cough)

Think about that for a minute.

 

Now tell me a single company/investors that are going to front that kind of an investment for *art* and not profit.

Anet is a business, and every business has one simple goal - to make money and be as profitable as possible. 

Sure Anet has developers and employees who do a great job and are proud of their games - but if all the employees were working there for no cash to make art - there would be no GW2 - EVER

So Anet (as a company) is only in it for the money - but I am sure that many employees enjoy working there, but still money is a primary motivator as they need to support their families.

 

 

 i never stated in my post that money is NOT important....all i wanted to say is the following:

Can you realy say these guys dont have a passion for making games?? can you??

I love my job to death, but i also need to feed myself and my cat (the GF works for her food :p hehe)....Anet is no different.

imho Anet realy had made this game with alot of passion for gaming itself (this can not be sayd about EA games for exsample, there games are as shallow as they can get lately).

So i dont mind that they think about the money (they should as a company or they will go broke and quit).

But people stating that Anet is in this ONLY for the money obviously dont see the love that went into making this game and are just full of it imho.

If they care so much about making Art and not a profit then I want my money back. I paid £45 for a repetitive yawnfest. Refund me now and all will be forgiven.

Originally posted by Syno23

Actually ultimately we want GW2 to make a profit for future expansions and updates. So the profit is always a driver to create future content. But ArenaNet is dedicated and focused on ONLY the Guild Wars series and at this moment just Guild Wars 2. I wonder if anyone is still playing Guild Wars 1 lol. Probably if they can't afford a better PC or 60 dollars.

5 years of development of hard work and a publisher like NCSoft that gave them the time to make a perfect game. Not perfect, but pretty dang close.

And hopefully expansions very very soon.

Sigh this guy again...

I am starting to believe that you just cleverly bait with every new topic. Even though i am sure that you already know this but here it is anyways..

“We’re in it to win it this time,” said O’Brien. “We were number two to World of Warcraft with Guild Wars, now we want to beat them. We’ll be satisfied when the Guild Wars 2 is the most successful MMO.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/04/23/arenanet-founder-mike-obrien-will-be-satisfied-when-guild-wars-2-is-the-most-successful-mmo-period/

Their goal is to sell as many copies as possible and beat WOW's success...yeah they clearly don't care for profit. 

*rolls eyes*

I do think their artists should be congratulated on some excellent work though.

Originally posted by Creslin321

No game developer is in the business solely for money.  Game development is generally not a career you just "fall into" like server admin, middle management, or HR...game developers really have to work to break into the business. In addition, game devs often have to work lots of OT and aren't compensated very well.

if all you wanted to do is make money, then there are plenty easier things to do than game development.

But you're talking about the motivation for an individual pursuing/maintaining a career, which is very different from what the OP is talking about (correct me if I'm wrong).

At the end of the day, one could argue many people do their jobs for some sort of personal satisfaction and are not motivated by money alone (otherwise no one would like what they do).  I've met and talked to people in all sorts of professions (doctors, lawyers, IT, programmers, waiters, construction workers, etc) and many of them have cited this.  Many work insane hours (way above 40 a week).

However, when you start talking about a multimillion dollar project with many lives' work involved and the company behind it, all those little personal motivations may help you get through the day.  But in the end, the company is looking to make a profit above anything else.

Edit: I also don't know of any particular job where it is easy to make a steady income without already having money to begin with and some sort of personal/mental/social risk.  (If you do, point me in that direction!)

Originally posted by Oracle_Fefe

Originally posted by bluefunk

lol - you're deluded.  All dev's want to make money over art any day of the week.

Silly post.

There are two different minds in the company.

 

The ones that say "We want to make games that people enjoy, and to do that we have to make money."

And the ones that say "We want to make money, and to do that we have to make games that people enjoy."

The qualifier is kind of important because a lot of people here seem to take the odd leap of logic that such a condition is not necessry for those looking to make money.

Originally posted by Caldrin
there is one main reason this game was made.. and yes thats to make them a profit and thats all they care about..

That's a heck of a sweeping (and arrogant) insult to blanket a team of hundreds with.

Originally posted by RogueTroopa

If they care so much about making Art and not a profit then I want my money back. I paid £45 for a repetitive yawnfest. Refund me now and all will be forgiven.

 

LOL, felt the same way but now I dont own the game anymore and I got most of my money back.

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by Caldrin
there is one main reason this game was made.. and yes thats to make them a profit and thats all they care about..

That's a heck of a sweeping (and arrogant) insult to blanket a team of hundreds with.

 

Team of hundered means squat when their head honcho wants to beat wow in sales and populairty.

anet has a long time plan:

step 1: collect underpants.

step 2: ?

step 3: PROFIT

Originally posted by lifeordinary

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by Caldrin
there is one main reason this game was made.. and yes thats to make them a profit and thats all they care about..

That's a heck of a sweeping (and arrogant) insult to blanket a team of hundreds with.

 

Team of hundered means squat when their head honcho wants to beat wow in sales and populairty.

And that isn't accomplished by building a more fun or engaging game than WoW?  Reel back the rage against The Man for a bit and you might see how there's little logic to your stance here.

The fact is that they want to make a profit.  However, there is this strange thought that making 'art' and making profit are mutually exlusive.  They aren't.  There are plenty of examples of games that people really enjoy and make a profit.

Of course you need to realize that just because you don't like a certain game or consider it 'art', doesn't mean that others agree.

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by lifeordinary

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by Caldrin
there is one main reason this game was made.. and yes thats to make them a profit and thats all they care about..

That's a heck of a sweeping (and arrogant) insult to blanket a team of hundreds with.

 

Team of hundered means squat when their head honcho wants to beat wow in sales and populairty.

And that isn't accomplished by building a more fun or engaging game than WoW?  Reel back the rage against The Man for a bit and you might see how there's little logic to your stance here.

Rage? i just quoted the guy himself on last page. I am not making anything up and rage is the last thing i feel while discussing GW2. 

All devs have been trying to build a game more fun and engaging than WOW, something which has always been looked down by the community. And yet if Mike O brien says he wants to beat WOW....it is all good. 

Such double standards.

Originally posted by lifeordinary

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by lifeordinary

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by Caldrin
there is one main reason this game was made.. and yes thats to make them a profit and thats all they care about..

That's a heck of a sweeping (and arrogant) insult to blanket a team of hundreds with.

 

Team of hundered means squat when their head honcho wants to beat wow in sales and populairty.

And that isn't accomplished by building a more fun or engaging game than WoW?  Reel back the rage against The Man for a bit and you might see how there's little logic to your stance here.

Rage? i just quoted the guy himself on last page. I am not making anything up and rage is the last thing i feel while discussing GW2. 

All devs have been trying to build a game more fun and engaging than WOW, something which has always been looked down by the community. And yet if Mike O brien says he wants to beat WOW....it is all good. 

Such double standards.

Ah, that's why your post seemed so odd - I completely misunderstodd where you were coming from with that. Makes more sense now. Thank you for clarifying that.