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  Vatrox

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Joined: 5/21/08
Posts: 6

 
OP  9/02/12 5:57:11 PM#21
Originally posted by FlawSGI

I'd also like to add the that dungeon complaint has a work around if you bothered to try. Have someone enter the dungeon and invite the members from inside. The game has a lot of problems, although many I can overlook conciddering the fun I am having. I can't speak on the end game comments because after all the hours I have put in I am nowhere near it. I do have a guildmate who is 77 as of today and hasnt had the issues you had because I asked him. Doesn't mean they dont exist, just not experienced by all.

Oh why didn't I think of such an obvious solution... Honestly, are you trying to tell me that such issues are nothing important, because you can overcome them by doing something random?

As I already said, I had a great time playing the game and I do not regret buying it. I just wish I could play it the way I want. And the way I was, well, supposed to.

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  gestalt11

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Joined: 5/17/06
Posts: 6176

9/02/12 5:59:18 PM#22

They are definintely having some problems and many, but not all, seem to be of a character inconsistent with Beta.  They also seem somewhat different than typical launch problems.

 

I am really curious what is causing them problems.  My guess is a combination of extremely rapacious hackers and changing some infrastructure over for release and really high volume.

  Vannor

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Posts: 2997

9/02/12 6:00:46 PM#23
Originally posted by kol56
Originally posted by Deathenger
/snip

First do some research, there are people who are getting banned for no reason, there are threads about it on THIS forum.

Before talking about something, you should know what you are talking about.

Saying "LOL NO" is just... well.... pointless.

You think 'research' means reading random posts from random people on the internet using fake tags instead of their real name with no discernible authority governing whether or not the information they give is truthful or even fact? I think you are the one that should figure out what you are talking about, do you just take everything you read on the internet as truth? You definately wouldn't get a job as a researcher.

  gestalt11

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Posts: 6176

9/02/12 6:11:17 PM#24
Originally posted by Vannor
Originally posted by kol56
Originally posted by Deathenger
/snip

First do some research, there are people who are getting banned for no reason, there are threads about it on THIS forum.

Before talking about something, you should know what you are talking about.

Saying "LOL NO" is just... well.... pointless.

You think 'research' means reading random posts from random people on the internet using fake tags instead of their real name with no discernible authority governing whether or not the information they give is truthful or even fact? I think you are the one that should figure out what you are talking about, do you just take everything you read on the internet as truth? You definately wouldn't get a job as a researcher.

Actually this is a phase/type of research.  Its just requires a bunch of other research to validate using more reliable sources.

There are many types of sources.

  User Deleted
9/02/12 6:13:19 PM#25
Originally posted by Vatrox

I could try farming for a while, but there's been so much hassle about all the anti-farming game mechanics I doubt it's even possible. 

I didn't know about this.  Can someone explain?

 

 

 

  Vannor

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Joined: 8/11/03
Posts: 2997

9/02/12 6:19:01 PM#26
Originally posted by gestalt11
Originally posted by Vannor
Originally posted by kol56
Originally posted by Deathenger
/snip

First do some research, there are people who are getting banned for no reason, there are threads about it on THIS forum.

Before talking about something, you should know what you are talking about.

Saying "LOL NO" is just... well.... pointless.

You think 'research' means reading random posts from random people on the internet using fake tags instead of their real name with no discernible authority governing whether or not the information they give is truthful or even fact? I think you are the one that should figure out what you are talking about, do you just take everything you read on the internet as truth? You definately wouldn't get a job as a researcher.

Actually this is a phase/type of research.  Its just requires a bunch of other research to validate using more reliable sources.

There are many types of sources.

I'm not saying the claims arn't true.. I've no idea. I don't even care about what was being discussed. Just thought it was pretty rude for them to act like what they were saying was fact, when it is obviously speculation at this point, and berate someone else for their interpretation of it in an insulting way.

  Angier2758

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Joined: 9/05/09
Posts: 1060

9/02/12 6:19:42 PM#27
Originally posted by Vatrox
Originally posted by elocke
I thought you said this was a "hate-fee" summary?  Sure sounded like bitching to me.  Funny, I'm level 67 and haven't had these issues you are whining about except the obvious one of the Trading Post being down.  I never crash, I never find content I can't complete, I'm always able to PVP, make characters and so forth.  Maybe...you entered the twilight zone or something when you hit 80.  Take a break, come back later, or just go play something else and leave those of us who don't mind these roadbumps in peace.  Isn't like it's the first great MMO to have issues at it's birth.

It is not bitching, just an observation. Please do not try to tell me, that during last 48 hours mail system was working fine for you, guild chat had no 5-minute delays and that you are able to enter any pvp mode right now. 

Yesterday I couldn't access any of the dungeons, because for some reason whenever we tried to enter, we were getting separated on different instances of the same zone, and for 2 or 3 days already I am unable to clear 3 maps due to waypoint contest events being stuck/bugged, resulting in unaccessible skill points/no task spawns. 

And while definitely it is not the first mmo to have issues, it's one of the biggest launch flops I can remember. AoC obviously comes to mind, but in Age of Conan the content was simply missing - all the stuff that was already implemented in the game worked fine, in Guild Wars 2 everything seems to be bugged. 

It is still a great game however, and I'd recommend it anyway. It's strange, really.

Just an FYI a lot of people ran into no issues besides the AH being down and new builds.

Not even kidding... last Saturday morning I was playing too (dunno how though...)

  aesperus

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/04/05
Posts: 4785

9/02/12 6:26:37 PM#28
Originally posted by Vannor
Originally posted by kol56
Originally posted by Deathenger
/snip

First do some research, there are people who are getting banned for no reason, there are threads about it on THIS forum.

Before talking about something, you should know what you are talking about.

Saying "LOL NO" is just... well.... pointless.

You think 'research' means reading random posts from random people on the internet using fake tags instead of their real name with no discernible authority governing whether or not the information they give is truthful or even fact? I think you are the one that should figure out what you are talking about, do you just take everything you read on the internet as truth? You definately wouldn't get a job as a researcher.

Vannor, he's actually right about it.

You don't have to believe him (or me for that matter), but it's a pretty big issue right now. There's also a bunch of posts about it on reddit.

Sadly I am one of the people caught up in the mess. Basically what happened was they ran a banning script on all acounts. Accounts were flagged for various reasons. One of those being 'suspicious login attempts'. Meaning that, even if your account wasn't hacked, if a hacker got your email address and was trying to login to your account, you're account got banned / terminated until they can resolve the issue on a later date.

I don't think I need to explain the problems with such an approach. It's been almost 3days since I submitted my ticket, and no response from Anet yet (and yes I double checked to make sure I submitted it according to Anet's new guidelines for how they want them to be submitted).

  fiontar

Novice Member

Joined: 4/07/04
Posts: 3711

9/02/12 6:42:51 PM#29

Most of the things that are broken, or have been broken, fixed and sometimes broke again, were working during the last BWE and and during some of the stress tests. It's clear that most of these issues are load related. I know at least a couple AAA MMOs since WoW have limited sales for the first month, because of the issues that load creates. Arenanet should obviously have done the same here. It's not a subscription game, so no need to rush to maximize sales.

It's also clear that some of us were right in that the testing schedule the last two months before release made no real sense. There should have been a BWE a few weeks before launch that distributed enough free keys to actually provide the same load expected at launch. Then, maybe we could have ironed out these issues before launch.

We hear that the programmers are working overtime to fix the various issues. Well, that's good and fine, but I think a lot of these issues will only be fixed with some serious upgrades to their servers and additional infrastructure. The Trading Post issues, in particular, are probably not going to be solved via programming, (though the search filters seem extremely inefficient at helping people find what they are looking for, which seems like it would be putting further strain on the database). I think it's clearly time for them to contract with a firm that sets up and programs commerce applications for major banks and hign volume businesses and have them come in and sort out the database issues on the hardware and software side of things.

They probably should also set up a datacenter seperate from the game servers, in a different state, to handle the official forums and hire or contract programmers with experience handling very high volume message boards to program and run the technicals of the forums, so that they can get forums up, with out putting additional load on their in house programming staff.

I know they try to do everything in house, but I think it's time to spend a little of the capital they earned to bring in outside help to sort these issues out, where it makes sense to do so. Someone experienced in programming and managing real life commodities markets would probably have a lot of insight on how to fix the Market Place issues and the same for the forums. Once things are in order, they can go back to doing things in house, with a better understanding of what expertise the company may require and what services are best handled by outside contractors.

Bugs with in the game proper are pretty rare, below my normal expectations for such a massive game. It's the infrastructure issues that have me a little worried.

Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated

  IrishChai

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Joined: 1/31/11
Posts: 529

9/02/12 6:51:54 PM#30

 

I don't disagree with anything the OP said, partly because I haven't played enough to know anything about the problems you are talking about at higher levels.

 

One thing came to mind though. I remember hearing that higher levels can go back to any other quest hubs in the game and play them within that level range because the game reduces your skills to that area's level bracket instead of letting you faceroll all content at level 80. Have you tried that, just to enjoy in the short term till things get better?

 

The devs definitely need to fix these things though. From the sound of it, they are doing their best to fix things as quickly as they can.

  Chrisbox

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Joined: 7/15/10
Posts: 1601

9/02/12 6:58:36 PM#31
Originally posted by kol56
Originally posted by elocke
I thought you said this was a "hate-fee" summary?  Sure sounded like bitching to me.  Funny, I'm level 67 and haven't had these issues you are whining about except the obvious one of the Trading Post being down.  I never crash, I never find content I can't complete, I'm always able to PVP, make characters and so forth.  Maybe...you entered the twilight zone or something when you hit 80.  Take a break, come back later, or just go play something else and leave those of us who don't mind these roadbumps in peace.  Isn't like it's the first great MMO to have issues at it's birth.

Gotta love the honeymoon phase.

I mean you can call me blinded by fanboism as well just because the only problem I've had was the TO being down, nothing else..but thats a fact, and judging by your post history kol56 you seem to spend your free time hating on a video game( Hmm I wonder which one), most likely nothing better to do. Anyway OP not sure why you can't do any content like everyone else, its really unfortunate that your in this situation ( that is if your telling the truth). 

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  Emerwyn

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Joined: 10/21/06
Posts: 77

Unliving.

9/02/12 7:09:40 PM#32

At least you can play OP.

 

My brother in law has dynamic IP, and on friday after a hard week of work he throught he had earned some Guild Wars 2 time, launched the game and got locked out by the new "authenticating" feature. He went to check his email - nothing. He tried again and again, nothing, no mail, no authentication, no play. 

 

He tried to contact the customer service, and it's not avaialable. Tried to check the Guild Wars forums, but they're also taken down, and today he's off to work at 6 am for another work week and he hasn't been able to play the game he paid 55€ for because of a fail feature to protect his account that he did not ask for. To protect his account from himself, apparently.

 

Objectively speaking, this is easily the worst game launch in the history of mmo's. At least as far as I've played, and that includes Conan and other aberrations that at least allowed you to log in and play the game you had paid for.

  kol56

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Posts: 130

9/02/12 7:16:37 PM#33
Originally posted by Chrisbox
Originally posted by kol56
Originally posted by elocke
I thought you said this was a "hate-fee" summary?  Sure sounded like bitching to me.  Funny, I'm level 67 and haven't had these issues you are whining about except the obvious one of the Trading Post being down.  I never crash, I never find content I can't complete, I'm always able to PVP, make characters and so forth.  Maybe...you entered the twilight zone or something when you hit 80.  Take a break, come back later, or just go play something else and leave those of us who don't mind these roadbumps in peace.  Isn't like it's the first great MMO to have issues at it's birth.

Gotta love the honeymoon phase.

I mean you can call me blinded by fanboism as well just because the only problem I've had was the TO being down, nothing else..but thats a fact, and judging by your post history kol56 you seem to spend your free time hating on a video game( Hmm I wonder which one), most likely nothing better to do. Anyway OP not sure why you can't do any content like everyone else, its really unfortunate that your in this situation ( that is if your telling the truth). 

You seem a bit upset.

Calm down and go find something better to do than attacking random posters.

If it didn't happened to you... it doesn't matter, the issues are real.

If you actually readed what i quoted, elocky was basically saying "shut up, stop crying, play the game and don't say anything bad about it", even when he admits a few "roadbumps", TLDR, "don't say bad things about my shiny precious" = Honeymoon in full force.

 

At least im not checking the post history of other users, unlike you, i could care less, and by the looks of it, im not the one who doesn't have anything to do.

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  Mithrandolir

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9/02/12 7:18:04 PM#34

I absolutely love this game. I am having more fun exploring this world than I have in any mmorpg launched since 2001.

With that said, it has some pretty big issues that are only getting bigger the longer they go unresolved.

I truly hope ANet can get it together soon because aside from those outstanding issues, it's an otherwise fantastic game imo.

 

 

  elocke

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9/02/12 8:11:07 PM#35
Originally posted by kol56
Originally posted by Chrisbox
Originally posted by kol56
Originally posted by elocke
I thought you said this was a "hate-fee" summary?  Sure sounded like bitching to me.  Funny, I'm level 67 and haven't had these issues you are whining about except the obvious one of the Trading Post being down.  I never crash, I never find content I can't complete, I'm always able to PVP, make characters and so forth.  Maybe...you entered the twilight zone or something when you hit 80.  Take a break, come back later, or just go play something else and leave those of us who don't mind these roadbumps in peace.  Isn't like it's the first great MMO to have issues at it's birth.

Gotta love the honeymoon phase.

I mean you can call me blinded by fanboism as well just because the only problem I've had was the TO being down, nothing else..but thats a fact, and judging by your post history kol56 you seem to spend your free time hating on a video game( Hmm I wonder which one), most likely nothing better to do. Anyway OP not sure why you can't do any content like everyone else, its really unfortunate that your in this situation ( that is if your telling the truth). 

You seem a bit upset.

Calm down and go find something better to do than attacking random posters.

If it didn't happened to you... it doesn't matter, the issues are real.

If you actually readed what i quoted, elocky was basically saying "shut up, stop crying, play the game and don't say anything bad about it", even when he admits a few "roadbumps", TLDR, "don't say bad things about my shiny precious" = Honeymoon in full force.

 

At least im not checking the post history of other users, unlike you, i could care less, and by the looks of it, im not the one who doesn't have anything to do.

You should practice what you preach.  Attacking random posters....isnt' that what you did to me or did you just purposely single me out.  My issue is with the griping.  I'm sick of hearing it.  No one can do anything good these days.  Everyone has an issue with something even if that something is well received and popular.  It's almost like it's a FAD to hate on anything.  I'm just pointing this out.  I love the game, it has a few issues, but nothing worse than a few other great games had at launch.   Honeymoon my ass.  I didn't feel this way with SWTOR, nor Rift nor TSW, but I did feel it back when WoW launched.  Same with SWG and FFXI before that.   Not like I'm a honeymoon gamer only.  But since you like to assume you know everything about everyone, this whole rant probably lost you at the first sentence.  Cheers. :D

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  FlawSGI

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All of history is a lie. The truth depends on who does the listening, and who does the telling...

9/02/12 8:19:41 PM#36
Originally posted by Vatrox
Originally posted by FlawSGI

I'd also like to add the that dungeon complaint has a work around if you bothered to try. Have someone enter the dungeon and invite the members from inside. The game has a lot of problems, although many I can overlook conciddering the fun I am having. I can't speak on the end game comments because after all the hours I have put in I am nowhere near it. I do have a guildmate who is 77 as of today and hasnt had the issues you had because I asked him. Doesn't mean they dont exist, just not experienced by all.

Oh why didn't I think of such an obvious solution... Honestly, are you trying to tell me that such issues are nothing important, because you can overcome them by doing something random?

As I already said, I had a great time playing the game and I do not regret buying it. I just wish I could play it the way I want. And the way I was, well, supposed to.

Slow down scooter... I actually said the game had problems so no I wasn't saying the issues are nothing important, only that had you  asked rather than stated they were broken and unplayable, you could have been told how to fix some of the issues you were experiencing. Also it wasn't something random, we had the same issue in AC and figured it out as a group and have since then told others how to get around the issue untill it is corrected. Feel free to keep responding with sarcasm though because it makes your points come across so much better. Also half or your problems mentioned were repaired before I typed the message. Nowhere did I state that this was ok, but it must have really been bothering you to write such a hate free summary about it.

 

I also never claimed you weren't enjoying the game and regretted buying it, only that you make it sound worse than it is and for some reason you edited that part out when responding but it's there. 

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  Nikecow

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You're either in my corner, or you're with the trolls.

9/02/12 8:33:47 PM#37

Totally agree with OP. It's and excellent game when it works. But it doesn't. It has had a terrible launch IMO. Login issues, Trading post down after a week of launch, events get bugged, dungeons unplayable the list goes on. It's just sad that it launched like this, it feels like it came a month or 2 too soon. It's even more sad when I get mass-flamed in-game for saying the above. It's almost if the blinded fanbois try to blame me for the issues since they "only had 1-2 bugs".

Stay realistic guys.

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  Impmon

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Posts: 28

9/02/12 8:36:21 PM#38

No offense but you liked the game enough to power through to 80th level for some reason expecting to experience the end game in a brand new game the first week it came out.  You know what that reminds me of ?  The movie Misery where the psychotic beeotch has crippled the author and is constantly threatening, whining to know the end of the book wanting to rush things. 

Do you think the game company is going to stop everything for the probable less then 1% of the game population who rushed through content to complain about the lack of end game ?

  Hyperwolf

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9/02/12 8:49:44 PM#39
Originally posted by Impmon

No offense but you liked the game enough to power through to 80th level for some reason expecting to experience the end game in a brand new game the first week it came out.  You know what that reminds me of ?  The movie Misery where the psychotic beeotch has crippled the author and is constantly threatening, whining to know the end of the book wanting to rush things. 

Do you think the game company is going to stop everything for the probable less then 1% of the game population who rushed through content to complain about the lack of end game ?

What this guy said. I started playing a couple days before launch and didn't play any of the betas. I've played around with 3 characters, done a ton of WvW and crafting. My guild has nearly 100 people in it and nobody has had any serious issues, but then again none of us are level 80 yet. I think the problem with levelling so quickly is that anything can get pretty boring or you can get burned out if you spend 20 hours a day doing it. I hate to say what you advised us not to,  but you should probably walk your dog or get some sunlight dude. 

Having said that I agree with you to a certain extent. There are a number of issues that need to resolved sooner rather then later. Arena seem like a very dedicated team and I have confidence they will get it done. Not opening the forums was a brilliant strategic move in my opinion. WoW forums are full of some of the vilest angry people I've ever seen, and the longer GW2 resists becoming another Barrens chat the better. 

Grats on 80 though. :-D 

 

 

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  Stryx74

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9/02/12 8:53:18 PM#40

Well, with no monthly sub I'd say you've got your money's worth with 96 hours of play time. How can you complain about a game that gave you 96 hours of entertainment? Sure they're still working out the kinks but i dont think your going to find a better bang for your buck entertainment wise ever again. I think GW2 is a little unique in that you have less ground to stand on when it comes to complaints because they're not charging you anymore. They gave you an awesome gameplay experience, far more then most games, and will continue to free of charge. Sounds harsh but you got your $60 and then some, the rest is gravy, and oh what free delicious gravy it will be.

    This is not to say that noone can complain about problems with the game, it's just that your post had the tone that you've somehow been screwed over by ANet which doesnt seem to be the case.

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