Originally posted by Rasputin

Originally posted by dave6660

Has there been a game released in the last 5 years that hasn't been delcared a "WoW killer" at least once on these forums?

Not by me. I don't run around throwing mad predictions unless I see some serious signs.

I am not saying GW2 will be a WoW-killer, as it is far, far too early to predict that. But it is the biggest threat we have seen to WoW to date.

Let us see in 1-2 months, then we know alot more.

I'm kinda thinking the same. GW2 is one of the few real potential 'WoW-killers'. Though I think it will not kill WoW, instead I think it'll kick WoW from it's long-seated throne while WoW will keep the 2nd place for quite some time.

Then again... Only time can tell. GW2 is very new and WoW will have MoP out at the end of this month. I think around x-mas we can really tell if GW indeed has taken over the #1 position as MMORPG...

I don't play WoW and I don't play GW2, so I am not biased against any of them.

I was merely making an observation with this post, as I have never seen anything like what I saw on XFire, which I have been following for years on different games.

I am biased against themeparks in general, but not particularly against either of the games in question.

Originally posted by Reizla

Originally posted by Rasputin

Originally posted by dave6660

Has there been a game released in the last 5 years that hasn't been delcared a "WoW killer" at least once on these forums?

Not by me. I don't run around throwing mad predictions unless I see some serious signs.

I am not saying GW2 will be a WoW-killer, as it is far, far too early to predict that. But it is the biggest threat we have seen to WoW to date.

Let us see in 1-2 months, then we know alot more.

I'm kinda thinking the same. GW2 is one of the few real potential 'WoW-killers'. Though I think it will not kill WoW, instead I think it'll kick WoW from it's long-seated throne while WoW will keep the 2nd place for quite some time.

Then again... Only time can tell. GW2 is very new and WoW will have MoP out at the end of this month. I think around x-mas we can really tell if GW indeed has taken over the #1 position as MMORPG...

Completely agree.

The game is good, but it won't kill anything. I already started to loose my patience with all the problems they have with the game atm, it ruins the experience. Also most of those renown quests or whatever they're called are boring as hell. The game is good indeed, it doesn't have a monthly fee so that is a plus to most people... but that's about it, i don't think it will have staying power, but i'll wait and see.

Originally posted by tixylix
No game kills another game, the games kill themselves by players becoming bored of them.

This.

And I don't think we are able to conceive the size of the world populace at this current point in time.  Plus the size that is yet to come.  Overpopulation will ensure all games have players enough.

Originally posted by Dranny
Joins in with popcorn and flame proof suit.  

these replies are so last season.

Originally posted by Jemcrystal

Originally posted by tixylix
No game kills another game, the games kill themselves by players becoming bored of them.

 

This.

 

And I don't think we are able to conceive the size of the world populace at this current point in time.  Plus the size that is yet to come.  Overpopulation will ensure all games have players enough.

and i agree aswell, only wow 2 will kill wow since its playerbase just move to a new shell

Originally posted by Reizla

Originally posted by Rasputin

Originally posted by dave6660

Has there been a game released in the last 5 years that hasn't been delcared a "WoW killer" at least once on these forums?

Not by me. I don't run around throwing mad predictions unless I see some serious signs.

I am not saying GW2 will be a WoW-killer, as it is far, far too early to predict that. But it is the biggest threat we have seen to WoW to date.

Let us see in 1-2 months, then we know alot more.

I'm kinda thinking the same. GW2 is one of the few real potential 'WoW-killers'. Though I think it will not kill WoW, instead I think it'll kick WoW from it's long-seated throne while WoW will keep the 2nd place for quite some time.

Then again... Only time can tell. GW2 is very new and WoW will have MoP out at the end of this month. I think around x-mas we can really tell if GW indeed has taken over the #1 position as MMORPG...

I can't picture GW2 being #1, it just doesn't have enough substance to keep people going. One of its supposedly best features was WvWvW and it is one of the worst pvp setups currently in MMOs.

This is like 10th "WoW-killer" since 2004?

What is next? ArcheAge, PS2?

Meanwhile, WoW will be slowly declining due to its age.

I think as above WoW's age will kill it in the end, MoP like any expansion will only have short term gains in population. As a WoW vet I just got bored with it in the end, lack of new thinking in the game and realising that every expansion amounts to the same thing in the end is what killed it for me.

GW2 will definitely have a negative impact on the casual and non-raiders that play WoW and it’s going to be interesting to see all the figures over the next few months from both games. GW2 is one hell of a game (quite possibly the best MMO since vanilla WoW) but it’s no WoW killer, no game regardless of what it does will be.

Originally posted by Coolit

I think as above WoW's age will kill it in the end, MoP like any expansion will only have short term gains in population. As a WoW vet I just got bored with it in the end, lack of new thinking in the game and realising that every expansion amounts to the same thing in the end is what killed it for me.

 

GW2 will definitely have a negative impact on the casual and non-raiders that play WoW and it’s going to be interesting to see all the figures over the next few months from both games. GW2 is one hell of a game (quite possibly the best MMO since vanilla WoW) but it’s no WoW killer, no game regardless of what it does will be.

This "nothing will kill WoW except WoW" has become quite a mantra around here, almost religious.

WoW has obliterated all competition so far, but that doesn't mean, that it will continue doing so.

Originally posted by TigerAero
I think GW2 is somewhat decent. After joining a  European guild and being told that I have to spend daily on scrolls I left the game. Quick and cold turkey lol.

I never join guilds. I'm a solo player that will group randomly. Basically a gun, bow, wand, staff for hire! Seriously though you quit a game becuase of the demands of your guild? Quit the guild!

Originally posted by Rasputin

This "nothing will kill WoW except WoW" has become quite a mantra around here, almost religious.

WoW has obliterated all competition so far, but that doesn't mean, that it will continue doing so.

Pretty sure it's usually the publishers and developers who kill their MMOs, mainly for financial reasons, so technically it's only Blizzard will kill WoW when it isn't worth it anymore...or something along that line.

Originally posted by Rasputin

Originally posted by Coolit
 

This "nothing will kill WoW except WoW" has become quite a mantra around here, almost religious.

WoW has obliterated all competition so far, but that doesn't mean, that it will continue doing so.

As time goes by, WOW will keep losing more and more and more players do to pure age. However, it still as 9 million players, adn no AAA mmorpg as even reached 3 million, and most likely won't.  SWTOR's max was 2.4 million box sales. Don't know where GW2 will go, don't see it reaching above that either.

You have to remember that WOW is not just a well known game. It's a pop culture icon. It's known extremely well beyond even the video gaming community as a whole. It's even one of the industries most defining games. That's how big it is.

That's not a title you just get by selling a couple of millions boxes. Much less using xfire.

Originally posted by Rasputin

Originally posted by Coolit

I think as above WoW's age will kill it in the end, MoP like any expansion will only have short term gains in population. As a WoW vet I just got bored with it in the end, lack of new thinking in the game and realising that every expansion amounts to the same thing in the end is what killed it for me.

 

GW2 will definitely have a negative impact on the casual and non-raiders that play WoW and it’s going to be interesting to see all the figures over the next few months from both games. GW2 is one hell of a game (quite possibly the best MMO since vanilla WoW) but it’s no WoW killer, no game regardless of what it does will be.

This "nothing will kill WoW except WoW" has become quite a mantra around here, almost religious.

WoW has obliterated all competition so far, but that doesn't mean, that it will continue doing so.

WoW hasn't "obliterated" any game. Each and every new MMO failed on it's own merits. Which is why people keep saying that WoW will eventually fail on it's own merits.

As far as Xfire is concerned, you might as well label this thread "SWTOR kills EvE", since the Xfire stats also support that conclusion.

Originally posted by Novusod
Guild Wars 2 gets stale pretty fast. Bet all the people who left come back for Mists of Pandera.

That brings up a good question... didn't Pandas already have a pre-release patch on the 28th? New talent trees, etc?

Shouldn't there be a spike in users getting in to get used to the new changes?

Originally posted by Volkon

Originally posted by Novusod
Guild Wars 2 gets stale pretty fast. Bet all the people who left come back for Mists of Pandera.

That brings up a good question... didn't Pandas already have a pre-release patch on the 28th? New talent trees, etc?

 

Shouldn't there be a spike in users getting in to get used to the new changes?

Yes, it does.

However, there is still no new content to play.

Originally posted by Method01

Originally posted by Rasputin

According to x-fire stats, WoW is currently suffering heavily in the hands of GW2.

Nothing is decided yet, as the GW2's longevity still has to be proven. The next 1-2 months will show that.

 

But so far, WoW has never suffered like this at the release of another game, getting its activity level cut to around 1/3.

 

http://www.xfire.com/games/wow/World_of_Warcraft/

http://www.xfire.com/games/gw2/Guild_Wars_2/

 

Edit: Added xfire links.

Gw2 is great and i enjoy it. But get realistic plz.... Ofc gw2 won't kill WoW. It will "steal" some subs, no doubt on that, but wow have like 10 mil active accounts, and theres no way gw2 will take all that. 

WoW stands alone on the throne and the only one that kills WoW is blizzard themself. No mmo steal like 10 mil subs.. Period!

Oh and btw.. We have seen these WoW killer threads in all mmo releases, but the funny thing is that WoW have gained extra subs in all these years. Funny aight?

Wow has not gained subs for quite some time. Including through the launch of SWTOR and Secret World, and now GW2. Get your facts straight.