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General Discussion  » PSA: Combos, Use Them!

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  Rokurgepta

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8/31/12 6:31:50 PM#21
Originally posted by Mardukk
Originally posted by Rokurgepta
Originally posted by observer
Originally posted by adam_nox
despite these useful examples, I still don't generally understand combos.  been meaning to read up on them, butmeh.

Same with me.  I'll just learn as i get to max lvl. haha.

 After reading the OP and then rereading the WIKi i think I understand them a lot better. There are combo starters, lets say the Engineer uses his healing mist ability on his healing turret and there arew finishers, say a warrior using cyclone axe.

 

That would result in the warriors axes throwing out healing projectiles to allies.

But they need to be cast at the same time?

 No you would cast the combo starter first. Since the starters are things that have a lasting effect for X seconds you can then use them for combos. So if say the healing mist has a 6 second duration for the effect you can use it for combos the time that it lasts.

 

So If i cast my healing mist you can then use cyclone axe through the field it creates to hurl healing axes. This is just one example as the Op has shown there are many other combos that can be created. The key is figuring out which skills cause the "field" and which ones are the "blast" skills/ Field starts blast does the additional effect.

 

I definately suggest reading the WIKI for skills to learn which skills your character can use to which effect. Looks like a lot of fun to be had in learning and working together in this game.

  Rokurgepta

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8/31/12 6:34:58 PM#22
Originally posted by Homitu
Originally posted by adam_nox
despite these useful examples, I still don't generally understand combos.  been meaning to read up on them, butmeh.

All the necessary info is right on the wiki page, which I also linked in the OP.  The chart is very concise and informative.  

The basics are the following:  

To perform a combo, you must first drop a field effect (an aoe ground effect) and then use a finisher (leaps, whirls, projectiles and blasts) through that field.  There are 9 field effects and 4 finisher types, resulting in the 36 possible combos seen on the chart.  The specific spells do not matter.  For example, all projectiles fired through a water field cause regeneration on nearby allies.

You've probably noticed combos naturally going off all the time.   That's because roughly half of the skills in the game are either fields or finishers.  So there's usually some field down, and there are always finishers getting tossed around.  This naturally makes it a little more effective to fight in groups than solo, but usually results in a chaotic, rather passive combo experience.  

If I have a criticism to match one of the posters in this thread, it's that the majority of the PvE experience--the dynamic events--cultivates this chaotic, passive combo experience.  So when players finally get together in more structured groups, they continue with this habit and rarely perform intentionally coordinated combos.  

I think the future success of the GW2 dungeon experience hinges largely on how fluidly players are able to adopt organized combos, and how well the encounters (from bosses to trash pulls) interact with these combos in GW2's fast paced combat system.  Players need to feel like they have control over the outcome of the fight, and well executed team play needs to feel rewarding.  But that's getting into a whole other thread topic that I intend to write in the near future :p

 I am pretty far behind you in leveling in this game so I have not experienced the more strutured groups like you have but I can see what you are saying about people still using the more passive approach and I can see how it might be a problem at the level you are playing.

  User Deleted
8/31/12 6:42:18 PM#23
Originally posted by Rokurgepta

 So far everything in game has been positive. No one reacting poorly to help with mobs or events. The players seem to be helping and having a good time. This has been a great start to the game from that perspective.

QQ Fire Elemental in Metrica. That thing instagibs you easily, and its fire AOE is all over the place. >_<

  Opapanax

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8/31/12 6:45:38 PM#24

Combos can be alot of fun and grant some great boons during a fight. It only takes a few people using these skills to be effective..

Decent write up..

+1

PM before you report at least or you could just block.

  petespri

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Joined: 8/07/12
Posts: 15

8/31/12 6:48:44 PM#25

Just wanted to say that right now, the classes that can set up combos via Combo Fields is very limited:

 

The most frequently available CFs are made via Guardian weapon attack that have short CDs (Light Fields) and Elementalist staff attacks (varying fields).

 

Right now other classes basically dont even measure up to half of the CFs that either Guardians or Elementalists have.  I'm not very happy about it.

 

 

  Vesavius

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Joined: 3/08/04
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Players come for the game, but they stay for the people- Most Devs have forgotten this.

9/01/12 4:37:18 AM#26

Good info OP.

Spread the word, too many are not aware of the morte subtle parts of the game :)

  Deathenger

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Posts: 395

Wipe yourself off, U DEAD!

9/01/12 3:44:50 PM#27
Good advise OP
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