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Originally posted by lizardbones
Games, in and of themselves have no intrinsic value. They are only worth what someone is willing to pay for them. I got to thinking about this because I would buy the game if I didn't have to pay a subscription. Other people have a different value associated with the game. I was wondering what the most common value associated with the game was.

So, the poll is simple. What is the highest amount you'd pay to play the game?

If you have a different price at which you'd play the game, post it in the comments below.

There are only 10 options, so there's no "Muffins" option here, sorry.

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b2p without a cash shop would be great for players(my preferred), But it would suck for business.

Box+Sub would be a great middle ground and the best for both parties I believe.
It is an amazing product but it would seem that a large segment gamers are moving away from the content presented.

if they moved to a f2p model it would be a disaster. How can you get people to buy from your cash shop that arnt willing to pay the small charge of a $15 sub?

Its not a single player game im sorry, It is infact an mmorpg - an on going service.

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Originally posted by Nitth

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Originally posted by lizardbones
Games, in and of themselves have no intrinsic value. They are only worth what someone is willing to pay for them. I got to thinking about this because I would buy the game if I didn't have to pay a subscription. Other people have a different value associated with the game. I was wondering what the most common value associated with the game was.

So, the poll is simple. What is the highest amount you'd pay to play the game?

If you have a different price at which you'd play the game, post it in the comments below.

There are only 10 options, so there's no "Muffins" option here, sorry.

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b2p without a cash shop would be great for players(my preferred), But it would suck for business.

Box+Sub would be a great middle ground and the best for both parties I believe.
It is an amazing product but it would seem that a large segment gamers are moving away from the content presented.

if they moved to a f2p model it would be a disaster. How can you get people to buy from your cash shop that arnt willing to pay the small charge of a $15 sub?

Its not a single player game im sorry, It is infact an mmorpg - an on going service.

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I did some silly calculations to try and see what changing the price of the game would get Funcom. Using 200,000 as being 29.3% of the total number of people who might buy the game, we get 682,594 people. That is their entire market. 22% will not buy the game at all, so 150,171 will not purchase the game, ever. That leaves 332,423 people who would purchase the game at some price point below what the game is being offered now.

What does this mean? I don't know. I'm not even sure if what I'm doing makes sense since I just made it up. I think what it could mean is that the market for the game is pretty small to start with and they need to expand the market more than anything else. Offering the game at discounted prices will not net them that much more money compared to what they've already taken in.

I'd join it if it would be something like:

1 week free, and then a sub.

If the game continues to expand and give updates then more than $50+sub to me.  It's an awesome game!!!!

BRING IT ON RAGNOR and Co! :)

Originally posted by Valua

Still, I seriously doubt if the game was F2P you wouldn't be playing. It's a great game imo, if the game was F2P it would be booming with very happy players.

Kind of an odd thing to "doubt".  If the game were F2P today, I still wouldn't play it.  It's a great game to you.

Originally posted by Valua

Originally posted by Crazylike
The game is aweful and Funcom is going bankrupt, I wouldnt play this game if it was free.

 

This is the worst comment I've ever read on here.

Imo The Secret World is definitely in the top 3 for best MMO's available right now.

The only reason it's not doing well is because it's not the popular fantasy setting, and it has some innovative features, and most people like to stick to the tried and tested way of gaming. In other words, this game was only ever going to have a niche audience. That doesn't make it a bad game.

 

Was going to type a response to Crazylike, but you summed it up for me word for word.

Originally posted by Melieza

Originally posted by someth1ng

Really like the game. I've bought it on Amazon sale for 25$. I wasn't sure it's worth the money and it has no trial (it should!).

The game has a 3 day free trial not sure what you're talking about.

Heh, you're right. But it was announced on August 16th. So probably I've searched for trial before that and decided that there is non.

Well, good for me, bad for Funcome. Probably thir marketing need to push. I'm sure there are a lot of people like me - who's (was in my case) interested to try but don't want to spend 50$ in case of a mistake.

I can't justify paying sub for this game - I will not play multiplayer, there is no PVE engame.

Neither I'm interested in the cash shop  items - gear and char customization I can find ingame are enough for me.

But what drives me playing are the stories (investigation quests mostly). So maybe it would be a good thing for a game to be b2p and then cash shop selling additional quests. If the price is reasonable, it can be good for both gamers and Funcom.

Let's say they have 200k subs. Let's say new investigation quest costs 0.5$. So it brings 100k$ to Funcom, which is definitely greater than development value of this quest. At the same time it's good enough price for let's say hour of "investigating" for me. Add packs, quest chains etc.

I'm happy, Funcom happy :).

It's worth playing.  At the current price.  When it stops being worth playing, I'll stop paying.  Seems like a great system to me.

Cost doesn't really matter to me.  Recently I had the opportunity to play GW2 for free and couldn't force myself to log in for more than 30 minutes at a time.    

So to any DEVs reading this - just make a good game, I'll pay for it.  If you make generic crap and give it to me free, I'm still not going to play it.

55.5% of that poll are people choosing a "No Sub" option of some form.

Guess we know the answer hm?

On that note, EQ1 is still worth a normal sub LOL!

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

55.5% of that poll are people choosing a "No Sub" option of some form.

 

Guess we know the answer hm?

Yep, this site is full of freeloaders :)     But that's not anything new.  Pretty much every MMO that's come out in the past 5 years has had the "i would play it if it didn't have sub or was free" reaction.

I guess I just have a different mentality.  I rarely like a game enough to want to play it but not enough to pay.  I either like a game and am willing to pay for it or i don't like it and woulnd't play it regardless of cost.   That's just me though.

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

55.5% of that poll are people choosing a "No Sub" option of some form.

 

Guess we know the answer hm?

 

On that note, EQ1 is still worth a normal sub LOL!

I agree EQ1 is still worth a sub...do you know how much content is in that game at this point.

I think those people would choose no sub for any game, obviously.

Originally posted by Chtuga

Sorry, but I prefer games with montly subscription.

Cash shops will cost you more over time + it gives us gamers shallow content. 

For me TSW is well worth a lifetime subscription, and this should have been an option as well ;)

Ya Spot on agree me thinks :)

Any one else got a email survey from Funcom about TSW asking what would make you purchase it? 

I just did the survey and the questions they asked I found was pretty sad.