Originally posted by Knightblast

It's not 200k subs, it's 200k sales.  Even with 60% retention (which would be on the high end) that's 120k subs.  It's most likely a bit lower than that, but what exactly it is, we don't know, but we do know it isn't 200k (no game has a 100% retention rate, and many people have admitted on forums that they are leaving, or have left, TSO already).  It's a disaster scenario for Funcom, unfortunately, in terms of what they budgeted for the game and targeted for it.  It's a fun game, and its fans will always love it, but as an AAA MMO from the financial perspective it's clearly a disaster.

Servers are cheap these days, with virtual servers thier cutting costs they only use what they need.   And I think I read they already fired most of the people on the game.    What I see is them milking the remaining playerbase with item malls and subs.     Funcom is just making a cash grab I doubt they had any idea that people would actually like the game.  

200k sales? wow.... that's terrible, even Tera sold more.

The game must have around 50-100k subs... just wait a couple of months.... 30k subs?

It's a complete disaster, i wouldn't be surprised if Funcom goes bankrupt.

I'm interested in this game, having played in a couple of the beta weekends and the 1 month celebration weekend. The reason I have not purchased the game yet is because I was really put off by the money grab by Funcom. $50 for the client, $15/month subscription, AND an item store.

Plus the bitter taste that lingers from Age of Conan...

Originally posted by braamer

I'm interested in this game, having played in a couple of the beta weekends and the 1 month celebration weekend. The reason I have not purchased the game yet is because I was really put off by the money grab by Funcom. $50 for the client, $15/month subscription, AND an item store.

Plus the bitter taste that lingers from Age of Conan...

where did you get on the Beta weekends?

Originally posted by rpgalon

Originally posted by braamer

I'm interested in this game, having played in a couple of the beta weekends and the 1 month celebration weekend. The reason I have not purchased the game yet is because I was really put off by the money grab by Funcom. $50 for the client, $15/month subscription, AND an item store.

Plus the bitter taste that lingers from Age of Conan...

where did you get on the Beta weekends?

What do you mean?

Originally posted by braamer

Originally posted by rpgalon

Originally posted by braamer

I'm interested in this game, having played in a couple of the beta weekends and the 1 month celebration weekend. The reason I have not purchased the game yet is because I was really put off by the money grab by Funcom. $50 for the client, $15/month subscription, AND an item store.

Plus the bitter taste that lingers from Age of Conan...

where did you get on the Beta weekends?

What do you mean?

how far into the game did you get?

(mah english sux balls)

The game should have release in desember instead.

Soon when players get boored to play GW og WOW they will come back to TSW.

I dont like monthly fee, better to buy new mission thru ingame store.

Originally posted by J-icepd

The game should have release in desember instead.

Soon when players get boored to play GW og WOW they will come back to TSW.

I dont like monthly fee, better to buy new mission thru ingame store.

nahhh, if I bored to GW2 or WoW : MoP. I will go to play PC offline game and console

Never have the idea to play TSW. this game is completely not my taste (unsubscribe in less a month)

Future? What future? They're going to cut their staff in half: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/08/29/the-secret-world-sells-200k-smaller-funcom-games-ahead

I knew it was going to be pretty bad but 50%? Ouch! And Funcom shares are back to where they were in 11/08.

Originally posted by J-icepd

The game should have release in desember instead.

The game will always hit solid competition, no matter when it launches. You can't blame that for the 200k sales... an appealing game will find a market whenever it hits the shelves.

In December, for example, I would be choosing FFXIV over it.

Originally posted by J-icepd
Soon when players get boored to play GW og WOW

I wouldn't count on that. Anyone who still plays WoW is most probably a die hard fan. And GW2 is anything but boring to play.

And as for competition - when the competition hurts you it means your product is inferior.

If they were expecting more than 200,000 people, then should have marketed it like a game of that stature. The only reason I even knew this game existed is because of this website. I think they would have done better by holding off the launch until October. It would have given them more time to test the game, eliminate the bugs and do a campaign around the Halloween season. 

Of course no amount of marketing can eliminate the bad reputation that Funcom has with the MMO community, which I'm sure had an effect on sales. It's going to take a long time to reverse that. 

After AOC, there were probably 500k players who were ´wait and see´.   A lot of people felt burned by AOC and will never buy a Funcom game on launch day.

So you wait a month and see how things look before wasting $50.   What did we learn?  PvP is terrible, there isn´t a lot of content, and half the development team was fired (temporarily lol).

If not for AOC, this probably would havve sold closer to a million boxes.  But because of AOC, you had 500k who will never touch another FC came, and 500K who won´t buy at launch.

Originally posted by grapevine

Originally posted by fallenlords
In typical Funcom fashion they are laying the blame at the door of NCSoft and Blizzard, for annoucing when they did.

 

GW2 and MoP would have impacted sales a lot.  Just need to look at the number of people who said they held of purchasing, simply because GW2's launch was so near.

 

A wise move would have been to pushed TSW's launch back to (late) October.  Which would have drawn people, after the hype of the other two.   It would also have had its raid by then.

 Not really.

The GW2 players would still say "Hey, I bought this GW2 MMO where I only had to pay for the box. Why do I have to pay a subscription fee on TSW?"

Like me *waving hand in air* o/