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  Wickedjelly

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8/29/12 1:14:46 PM#41
Originally posted by just1opinion
Originally posted by eccoton
Originally posted by RexNebular

Why so many people trying to convince us GW2 is oh so special?

Why posts with tips on "how to enjoy the game"?

You sound desperate and I don't see any reason why you should be. The game is doing fine. Really, it is.

Nonsense nothing is desperate about my original comments.

 

He's obviously just incapable of understanding why people can get really excited about a game they think is GOOD.  With all the crap that's been touted as games in the past 8 years or so.....it's EASY for me to understand why people get excited.  People who can't feel excitement, probably are jealous of people who can.  Just ignore such comments.  (My opinion only.)

 Topics like this aren't any different than what you have seen with every other game launch. So for someone that hasn't played they're going to see it from a different perspective.

Has nothing to do with them being jealous or incapable of feeling excitement.

Hell, I'm playing the game and having a blast with it yet am getting rather annoyed by some posters need around here to praise this game to nauseating levels or hammer anyone that says what they perceive as being a meanie towards their precious.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  Torgrim

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8/29/12 1:37:49 PM#42
Originally posted by RexNebular

Why so many people trying to convince us GW2 is oh so special?

Why posts with tips on "how to enjoy the game"?

You sound desperate and I don't see any reason why you should be. The game is doing fine. Really, it is.

 

Yeah and don't forget that USA didn't land on the moon and Kennedy was shot by the CIA.

If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  eccoton

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8/29/12 1:39:54 PM#43
Originally posted by Rayshe
Ok really im happy everyone found a game they like and all but these threads are getting old. Really it sound like GW2 people are coming on here giving a circle jerk. i donno are you trying to convince yourselves as well. i'm not saying there is anything wrong with the game and all but these posts are getting annoying.

These threads? Sure I mention I really like the game I also mention Rift is my favorite game so I am no fanboi. Actually I have not seen any threadslike my original post. "The response to guild wars is different" since I see the threads on GW2 being different then a lot of AAA titles the last couple years. This thread was to discuss why GW2 is not getting bashed as much as other recent games. My thoughts are it is a refreshinly good game. I never reviewd the game or gushed about how it changed my life. People not commenting on the original thoughts does get annoying.

  Boardwalker

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8/29/12 1:43:59 PM#44
Originally posted by teakbois

When it comes down to it, DAoC people PvPed not for progression, but becase it was fun.  Now I don't think GW2's WvWvW can match RvRvR, but if the PvP is good enough people wont care about progression.

Well, I'm not sure who you RvR'ed with in DAoC, but I played for years (and still do occasionially) and I RvR'ed for both fun *and* progression. They went hand in hand for me and my RR10+ toons, and for my guildmates. Perhaps you weren't as hardcore about RvR as I was, but every realm rank and new ability were...a huge carrot for pvp progression that made fighting for the realm that much more enjoyable. To me, believing that most people RvR'ed in DAoC for fun only is wearing rose-colored glasses.

 

If you just want to jump in pvp and have quick fights just for the sake of fighting, that's great. There are plenty of FPS shooters that suit that style of casual play. However, if you want pvp that is fun, meaningful, and progresses your character in some way, MMOs are the best for that type of play. It seems like GW2 leans more in the direction of FPS shooters in that regard.

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  Requiem1066

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8/29/12 1:45:05 PM#45
Originally posted by eccoton

 The response to GW2 is the same and will ultimately fail. After the first few days people will see the light and leave the game." 

 

I'm not saying it will fail, it's B2P so it's pretty hard for it to be classed as a fail with the money Anet has made.

 

But

 

People will leave the game for various reasons. They find it's not for them, They find they run out of content, They move to the next big game (MoP, PS2)

No game ever has a 100% retention rate and GW2 will be no different. Some will leave and come back for EXpacks, some will never return .

 

Don't worry yourself about it . It doesn't make the game any less enjoyable for you

  crewthief

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8/29/12 1:55:45 PM#46
Originally posted by MMOExposed

ok OP. sound like you are advertising. you a hidden Anet staff member?

the game is fun. issues here and there. but time will tell how it goes down. It just came out. never know what will happen after the launch (SWTOR,War,AoC,DF)

Or...maybe it's just his opinion and he really likes the game??? I know, impossible, right?

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  User Deleted
8/29/12 2:01:43 PM#47
Just an average game and the honeymoon will wear off soon. Different how ? I'm not understanding that. Public quests have been done before and very little of any progression at all players will get bored. Don't see how the shiny doesn't wear of in 3-4 months. 
  crewthief

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8/29/12 2:06:04 PM#48
Originally posted by Mephster
Just an average game and the honeymoon will wear off soon. Different how ? I'm not understanding that. Public quests have been done before and very little of any progression at all players will get bored. Don't see how the shiny doesn't wear of in 3-4 months. 

However, after those 3-4 months you'll still be here trying to convince everyone how terrible it is, right? LOL

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  MMOwanderer

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8/29/12 2:09:12 PM#49
Originally posted by eccoton
Originally posted by MMOwanderer
Originally posted by eccoton


 

I stand by my comments regarding the response. Yes games like TSW had great initial response as SWTOR did but not to the extent that GW2 has. Sure longevity will tell but I was commenting on the response to the game in the first few days of release. I also mention will they be able to maintain it. I hope but only time will tell.

No offense OP, but i don't think you're reading the threads well enough, or even enough of them. There's been quite a good portion of "negative" topics, aswell as positives ones since launch already here on GW2.

Like i said, i do agree the response as been better than other mmos, but i haven't noticed that much overwhelming difference.

But yes, in the end, all that trully matters is not the inicial response, but what people will be saying 2-3, and more, months down the road. Only time will tell. Until then

  MMOwanderer

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8/29/12 2:12:53 PM#50
Originally posted by cronius77
yeah and a few months will come and go and it will still be living up to the hype yet you basement dwellers who bash the game every step of the way will say its something else wrong with it and say give it 6 months then a year until everyone hates it!. Just accept it, a lot of us are having fun and there is little to nothing you can say or do to stop that . You seriously think the sandbox minority on this site is going to make some polished title and sell as many as guild wars 2? All these 400000 concurrent users seem to enjoy the game , and guess what in game its almost fully positive reviews even from people in the higher levels? Grow up and stop being a hater seriously , we do not care what the doomsayers here that are all negativity say.

Why do you have to insult people like that?

How is your opinion any more valid simply because you like the game? I'm sorry, but your comment is just like those of every other hardcore fan of all those other games at launch. Just like SWTOR. You don't have the full amount of copies sold. 1 million for now isn't much, but that's why we have to see th total.

You can call people haters, tell them to grow up, and what else you might have, but if in 3 months the game loses the majority of it's population, ANet or NCsoft start losing money, no updates, and/or whatever else you may have, it won't be lookig good.

In your very own words, grow up, it's a forum where peopl have different opinions than yours. Until then, we have to wait. I'm not saying myself that the game will lose players, that it will fail, etc. I do expect it to lose the majority of the community, but that's simpyl an opinion. Wait and see. Chill, ok?

  crewthief

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8/29/12 2:24:33 PM#51
Originally posted by Mephster
Originally posted by crewthief
Originally posted by Mephster
Just an average game and the honeymoon will wear off soon. Different how ? I'm not understanding that. Public quests have been done before and very little of any progression at all players will get bored. Don't see how the shiny doesn't wear of in 3-4 months. 

However, after those 3-4 months you'll still be here trying to convince everyone how terrible it is, right? LOL

[mod edit]

I missed the part where it was YOUR responsiblity to crusade against those people...I've read a number of threads where you seem hell bent on proving why it's a bad game and discrediting the opinion of someone who seems to be enjoying themselves. Wouldn't this be considered a place where someone would express that kind of thing? Your logic seems fundamentally flawed in my opinion anyway. What's the point of having a good day today since we're all gonna end up dead in the end anyway, right? If the luster wears off for alot of people in 3-4 months, so be it...but alot of people are having a blast right now. Live and let live.

Sorroe, Human Mesmer
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  Teala

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8/29/12 2:53:26 PM#52
Originally posted by Vhaln

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and say, I bet this will be the first MMO in years that will grow in population, during its first few months.  I don't think it's all hype, I think the word of mouth on this one is so strong, because so many people are enjoying the hell out of it.

 

I'm going to go out on the other limb and say it'll perform as well as any new themepark MMO, from the last 7 or 8 years, and in 3 to 6 months it'll start its downward spiral as people move to something else.     There is just not enough substance to keep people playing this game for an extended period of time.

  waynejr2

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8/29/12 2:58:36 PM#53
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Vhaln

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and say, I bet this will be the first MMO in years that will grow in population, during its first few months.  I don't think it's all hype, I think the word of mouth on this one is so strong, because so many people are enjoying the hell out of it.

 

I'm going to go out on the other limb and say it'll perform as well as any new themepark MMO, from the last 7 or 8 years, and in 3 to 6 months it'll start its downward spiral as people move to something else.     There is just not enough substance to keep people playing this game for an extended period of time.

Darn, I have to agree with Teala!

  Calerxes

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8/29/12 3:04:58 PM#54
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by just1opinion
Originally posted by eccoton
Originally posted by RexNebular

Why so many people trying to convince us GW2 is oh so special?

Why posts with tips on "how to enjoy the game"?

You sound desperate and I don't see any reason why you should be. The game is doing fine. Really, it is.

Nonsense nothing is desperate about my original comments.

 

He's obviously just incapable of understanding why people can get really excited about a game they think is GOOD.  With all the crap that's been touted as games in the past 8 years or so.....it's EASY for me to understand why people get excited.  People who can't feel excitement, probably are jealous of people who can.  Just ignore such comments.  (My opinion only.)

 Topics like this aren't any different than what you have seen with every other game launch. So for someone that hasn't played they're going to see it from a different perspective.

Has nothing to do with them being jealous or incapable of feeling excitement.

Hell, I'm playing the game and having a blast with it yet am getting rather annoyed by some posters need around here to praise this game to nauseating levels or hammer anyone that says what they perceive as being a meanie towards their precious.

 

No-one likes a meanie..

 

'The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you never know if they are genuine' - Abraham Lincoln

  User Deleted
8/29/12 3:37:01 PM#55
Originally posted by Mephster
Originally posted by crewthief
Originally posted by Mephster
Just an average game and the honeymoon will wear off soon. Different how ? I'm not understanding that. Public quests have been done before and very little of any progression at all players will get bored. Don't see how the shiny doesn't wear of in 3-4 months. 

However, after those 3-4 months you'll still be here trying to convince everyone how terrible it is, right? LOL

Nah I said what i had to say it just amazes me though how bad the fanboism  and unwarranted hype is.  If people like it by all means go crazy on it but as I said a month a go dont come crying on the forums when people complain how bored they are because it lacks real progression.

Im in the same boat as you mephster.  Never once said this game is bad.  

I have made numeround statements on the overwhelming resentment to anything even slightly precieved as negative.

I see the same posters here feverishly defending GW2 on other game forums posting doom and gloom posts, or highligting and commenting about negative aspects of the game.

I can only come to the conclusion that a lot of these people are just paid posters.  Hype up this game and crap on any other game that may compete.  I realize this because on all those other game forums they NEVER forget to remind people about GW2.  Its sad actually the game really didnt need the "help" it would have done fine without it.

 

Its gotten to the point where you cant even be honest about the game your playing. Like how this is the only game where no one cares about instancing, zerg pvp, a cash shop with a box fee, qustionable endgame....all these things are used to sling mud at other games but just dandy in this game...its silly.

Lets be honest...when on this forums has it ever been acceptable to consider a game "game of the year"  or even be this postive about a game...one day...one week after launch?  After people have been burned time and time again at endgame? Its nuts... start hyping once the crowds at endgame.

As of late these defenders of GW just search the persons post history and use a past game they played to discount anything negative "oh your just a bitter SWTOR fanboi" or "Well you never liked any game but wow"  even " this poster hates every game he plays ignore him"

 

 

This same phenomina happend with other overhyped games left to rot after a few months.  Im still not seeing the saving grace on this game that is going to allow it to continue to grow...well other than no sub i guess...all account always active so i guess theyll never lose a player.  

Ill wait untill the expansion, ill jump in if theres a fun endgame content aded.  Im not interested in a 2 week mad dash to endgame where its just no risk pvp and collecting crap for weapon skins.

 

 

Enjoy the game while the hype lasts, reality is due to arrive in a few weeks.  

  Dfix

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8/29/12 3:40:23 PM#56
It's hard to hear the haters over the sound of how awesome Guild Wars 2 is.
  Vhaln

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8/29/12 3:47:55 PM#57
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Vhaln

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and say, I bet this will be the first MMO in years that will grow in population, during its first few months.  I don't think it's all hype, I think the word of mouth on this one is so strong, because so many people are enjoying the hell out of it.

 

I'm going to go out on the other limb and say it'll perform as well as any new themepark MMO, from the last 7 or 8 years, and in 3 to 6 months it'll start its downward spiral as people move to something else.     There is just not enough substance to keep people playing this game for an extended period of time.

 

I'm all for more sandbox MMOs too, but I don't think being a themepark inherently kills longevity.  

 

GW2 has more replayability than most, and more endgame than most.  Maybe not as much as I'd like, but I think it might be enough to carry them for a while, giving them plenty of time and money to build on it.

 

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  Rokurgepta

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8/29/12 3:49:12 PM#58
Originally posted by Rayshe
Ok really im happy everyone found a game they like and all but these threads are getting old. Really it sound like GW2 people are coming on here giving a circle jerk. i donno are you trying to convince yourselves as well. i'm not saying there is anything wrong with the game and all but these posts are getting annoying.

 So you dont play and you dont like posts about the game? So why are you here reading and posting then? Has trolling gone this far now?

  SnarkRitter

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8/29/12 3:50:41 PM#59

Funny haters.. err...critics are saying GW2  will die due to the lack of gears treadmill, yet at the same times gears treadmill games are all dying rather quickly.

 

Wanna know the funny thing? The top most played games nowaday are mostly games without power progression, for example Dota (it actually beats LoL if you count actual players, not just accounts and China), COD games (don't tell me people are still grinding for guns nowaday), Counter Strike,etc....

Wanna know the truth? If the game is fun, people will play it. If it's not, people will leave, no matter how many forms of power progression the devs put in the game.

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8/29/12 3:50:54 PM#60
Originally posted by Vhaln
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Vhaln

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and say, I bet this will be the first MMO in years that will grow in population, during its first few months.  I don't think it's all hype, I think the word of mouth on this one is so strong, because so many people are enjoying the hell out of it.

 

I'm going to go out on the other limb and say it'll perform as well as any new themepark MMO, from the last 7 or 8 years, and in 3 to 6 months it'll start its downward spiral as people move to something else.     There is just not enough substance to keep people playing this game for an extended period of time.

 

I'm all for more sandbox MMOs too, but I don't think being a themepark inherently kills longevity.  

 

GW2 has more replayability than most, and more endgame than most.  Maybe not as much as I'd like, but I think it might be enough to carry them for a while, giving them plenty of time and money to build on it.

 

How do you know this game has more replayability than most?  Youve only see the start of the game...

More endgame than most? Are you kidding me?

Post like this do a diservice to the game.  At least be honest...

Or at a minumum list all the content at endgame that it has that others dont...and list why it has replayability unlike most games...

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