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  MARTYB2K

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OP  8/28/12 9:06:34 AM#1

Seriously, this is the first MMO since WOW launched over 7 years ago which will get really big. Here is why:

Very good game that's polished.

Very little technical problems.

Lots of good features from the start.

I predict over 5 million people will be playing soon. ArenaNET is onto a winner. Also it will effect the design of just about every MMO to come out in the coming years.

  Deathenger

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Wipe yourself off, U DEAD!

8/28/12 9:17:27 AM#2
I'm sure Blizzard is already looking for ways to implement some of the things that ANet has done in GW2.
  MMOwanderer

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8/28/12 9:19:09 AM#3
Maybe. Maybe not.
  QuicklyScott

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The opinion of a penguin.

8/28/12 9:20:50 AM#4
Sorry, but the hype alone from Titan will crush everything to do with GW2.  Blizzard will still be top dog for forseeable future.  You need to realise that you're talking as someone who has just started playing a game you enjoy, of course it's the best thing ever to you, give it a month or two, then this sort of point of view will have more merit.

  Siyah

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8/28/12 9:22:08 AM#5

WoW brought the genre to the masses. It revolutionzed gaming for many...

GuildWars 2 brings a solid, polished product with features (questing model, crafting) refined from many years of experience. However, it is not in any shape of form a revolution to the MMO genre. It will remain an enjoyable experience for a lot of people and its business model ensures its longevity. But it will not change the genre.

  Josher

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8/28/12 9:22:11 AM#6

There are a few good things GW2 has brought to the table, but when Anet runs its numbers, they better not include every box sold as a user, since it would be a bit dishonest.  Thats why you can't take the numbers of F2P games seriously, because they never count active users.  They just count everyone that ever made an account to boost their numbers.  Common practice at least in the begining, until its obvious they're lying, since the servers are empty=)

Not saying Anet will do that, but I wouldn't jump to conclusions.  I'm certainly having the most fun playing a MMO since WOW.

  Volkon

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Facts do not require fiction for balance.

8/28/12 9:23:56 AM#7
Titan right now is a fart in the wind. A whispered word quickly forgotten. GW2 is introducing an MMO world that really feels alive like none other I've personally played before. Don't be surprised if people start calling Titan, when info finally (if ever) gets out about it, just another GW2 clone.

Oderint, dum metuant.

  User Deleted
8/28/12 9:24:16 AM#8
GW2 is a theme park, it is built for the short tem. It won't change a thing. It will never ever have the impact WoW has.
  saranya

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Posts: 33

8/28/12 9:30:11 AM#9
Originally posted by QuicklyScott
Sorry, but the hype alone from Titan will crush everything to do with GW2.  Blizzard will still be top dog for forseeable future.  You need to realise that you're talking as someone who has just started playing a game you enjoy, of course it's the best thing ever to you, give it a month or two, then this sort of point of view will have more merit.

this is a great point. 

Also, GW2 has some great concepts and features but I don't think any of it is genre defining for mmo's like wow did.

For instance, I'm not sure if i like the lvl scaling.  What's the point in getting to 80 and not being able to go back to the Queensdale to obliterate a group of MOA who picked on you when you were lvl 1?

And the "overflow" system, sucks.  Yes, it lets me play.  But what's the point of a "home" server if I've spent more than 80% of my time in the overflow.  And every zone change WILL put you in overflow.  Btw, being in overflow means you can't participate in WvW (unless I've missed alternative routes since I just use "B" to queue, though the wait to get into that is another issue)

time will tell.  everybody though SWTOR was the 2nd coming and look where that's at.

  Eir_S

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Joined: 8/07/11
Posts: 4707

GW2 socialist.

8/28/12 9:32:21 AM#10
Originally posted by QuicklyScott
Sorry, but the hype alone from Titan will crush everything to do with GW2.  Blizzard will still be top dog for forseeable future.  You need to realise that you're talking as someone who has just started playing a game you enjoy, of course it's the best thing ever to you, give it a month or two, then this sort of point of view will have more merit.

We know nothing about Titan, so you're a bit hopeful there.  You need to realize that you're talking as someone who knows nothing about a game that you just pretty much said will destroy everything.

  muthax

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8/28/12 9:34:34 AM#11
Originally posted by QuicklyScott
Sorry, but the hype alone from Titan will crush everything to do with GW2.  Blizzard will still be top dog for forseeable future.  You need to realise that you're talking as someone who has just started playing a game you enjoy, of course it's the best thing ever to you, give it a month or two, then this sort of point of view will have more merit.

The way WoW is going makes me lose any interest or faith in Titan. Nah thanks. IF and WHEN it comes out

And to people saying WoW revolutioned MMO gaming, not really. WoW copied elements from other games and 'streamlined' them (or dumbed down, depending on how you look at it)

Unless for 'revolutionise' you mean, "dilute, dumb down and make ultra popular with CS kids"

  Method01

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8/28/12 9:34:38 AM#12
I will change mmo's
  Eir_S

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GW2 socialist.

8/28/12 9:35:42 AM#13
Originally posted by saranya

Also, GW2 has some great concepts and features but I don't think any of it is genre defining for mmo's like wow did.

For instance, I'm not sure if i like the lvl scaling.  What's the point in getting to 80 and not being able to go back to the Queensdale to obliterate a group of MOA who picked on you when you were lvl 1?

Please note, because you don't like it doesn't mean it won't be genre defining.  Level scaling is an excellent way to keep content relevant and challenging.  I see other companies adopting it to some extent.  It's not that fun to go back at max level to one shot things after a few times, it's just not.  And then all content leading to max level is useless to you.

One other thing off the top of my head that other companies will probably nab from GW2 is shared resource nodes.  It's an amazing idea that someone should have thought of long ago.

  maji

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8/28/12 9:36:33 AM#14

Sounds exactly like Rift. Polished, few technical options, some new stuff. And Rift also gets constantly tons of new content. Why should GW2 be different than Rift?
 

GW2 is a good game, like Rift. But I to change MMOs, it has to offer really new stuff.

Let's play Fallen Earth (blind, 300 episodes)

Let's play Guild Wars 2 (blind, 45 episodes)

  QuicklyScott

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Joined: 4/27/12
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The opinion of a penguin.

8/28/12 9:37:39 AM#15
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by QuicklyScott
Sorry, but the hype alone from Titan will crush everything to do with GW2.  Blizzard will still be top dog for forseeable future.  You need to realise that you're talking as someone who has just started playing a game you enjoy, of course it's the best thing ever to you, give it a month or two, then this sort of point of view will have more merit.

We know nothing about Titan, so you're a bit hopeful there.  You need to realize that you're talking as someone who knows nothing about a game that you just pretty much said will destroy everything.

I didn't say I knew anything about it.  I do know the game will be hyped far beyond GW2 was.  The name Blizzard and it being the MMO successor to WoW is enough to guarantee billions of profit and millions of users.  

  saranya

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Joined: 2/02/04
Posts: 33

8/28/12 9:37:47 AM#16
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by QuicklyScott
Sorry, but the hype alone from Titan will crush everything to do with GW2.  Blizzard will still be top dog for forseeable future.  You need to realise that you're talking as someone who has just started playing a game you enjoy, of course it's the best thing ever to you, give it a month or two, then this sort of point of view will have more merit.

We know nothing about Titan, so you're a bit hopeful there.  You need to realize that you're talking as someone who knows nothing about a game that you just pretty much said will destroy everything.

actually, I believe he did say "HYPE" so any type of accurate information about titan is not necessary.  And yes, the hype alone will crush the competition in the next couple of years.    Blizzard knows what's on the line and the expectations set for their wow 2.0.

  User Deleted
8/28/12 9:42:22 AM#17
Originally posted by Deathenger
I'm sure Blizzard is already looking for ways to implement some of the things that ANet has done in GW2.

see this is kind of an iffy area imo because i know first hand the arrogance of the devs at Blizz and even with these changes most likely what they'll do is use it in Titan, they won't bother with WoW revamps unless they start to lose a crapton of people after their newest expansion launch rush is over and the annual passes start expiring.

  coretex666

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"I shall take your position into consideration"

8/28/12 9:47:20 AM#18
Originally posted by MARTYB2K

Seriously, this is the first MMO since WOW launched over 7 years ago which will get really big. Here is why:

Very good game that's polished.

Very little technical problems.

Lots of good features from the start.

I predict over 5 million people will be playing soon. ArenaNET is onto a winner. Also it will effect the design of just about every MMO to come out in the coming years.

 Lets wait a few more months before we start to make these statements.

Currently playing: L2 Chronicle 4

  GeezerGamer

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Joined: 4/03/12
Posts: 5192

8/28/12 9:52:35 AM#19


Originally posted by QuicklyScott
Sorry, but the hype alone from Titan will crush everything to do with GW2.  Blizzard will still be top dog for forseeable future.  You need to realise that you're talking as someone who has just started playing a game you enjoy, of course it's the best thing ever to you, give it a month or two, then this sort of point of view will have more merit.


I don't know. People are starting to question Blizzard's ability to be creative more and more. This is only my opinion, but I'd say if MoP flops, Blizzard will most likely lose what ever shreds of credibility they have left.


Look what they are doing...They are destroying their own IPs left and right. They are wrecking WoW, they killed Diablo. Haven't played SCII, so no persoanl comment there, but It's not like that game is all the rage in the gaming industry. I know a guy who did buy it. He played it for a little while and stopped. So At best the game might be "good" but is it awesome?


Who really has the faith in Blizzard that Titan will live up to WoW? I have all the faith that it won't.

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  Eir_S

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Joined: 8/07/11
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GW2 socialist.

8/28/12 9:59:27 AM#20
Originally posted by saranya
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by QuicklyScott
Sorry, but the hype alone from Titan will crush everything to do with GW2.  Blizzard will still be top dog for forseeable future.  You need to realise that you're talking as someone who has just started playing a game you enjoy, of course it's the best thing ever to you, give it a month or two, then this sort of point of view will have more merit.

We know nothing about Titan, so you're a bit hopeful there.  You need to realize that you're talking as someone who knows nothing about a game that you just pretty much said will destroy everything.

actually, I believe he did say "HYPE" so any type of accurate information about titan is not necessary.  And yes, the hype alone will crush the competition in the next couple of years.    Blizzard knows what's on the line and the expectations set for their wow 2.0.

We'll see how it does on release, but yeah, every Blizzard game launch is an "event", I have to agree with that.  If it's a sci-fi MMO though, I know a lot of people who won't have any interest in it, myself included.  They haven't done well so far.

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