Originally posted by DSWBeef
I feel the pvp is outstsnding while hearts and des will become llackluster over time for being a non sub based mmo it's amazing. I live the way weapons and skills work.

Hearts are just normal quests, its the DE´s that will and should bring PvE to life.  In higher level zones there wont even be any hearts anymore.

Its beats wow for me,a game i have extremely fond memory's in, and played for 7/8 years.
WvW is epic and when people have more money you see massive amount of sige weapons so you dont stand there wacking a door for 15 minutes.

Pve is the thing i always hate in mmo's but GW2 has opened my eyes, pve can be fun :)
Epic so far.

As far as mmos go top 3 easily.   I have close to 150 hours played in this game and still feels great to play.

However, it is in my top 5 games in general right now.

Morrowind

Super Mario World

Megaman 2

SWG

GW2 - added to the list.

Definitely on my list of best games, and I risked it by setting my expectation mark quite high (since I kept reading about its features and getting marveled by them), probably the highest expectation level had on quite a few years, especially since I am guilty of being a Guild Wars fan, which made my gamer side very happy at the time for around 3 months.

I didn't risk playing on betas/stress tests though. I didn't want to get burned out by replaying the initial areas repeatedly, and to help me contain this course of thought the game wasn't optimized so I could barely run it above 15 fps until the later stress tests which allowed me to play above the 20 fps mark (30 to be exact).

I hate to sound like a fanboy, but I havent had this feeling playing an MMO since playing WoW (release)

And I gotta admit, that the feeling now is even better than back then.

Originally posted by MikeJezZ

I hate to sound like a fanboy, but I havent had this feeling playing an MMO since playing WoW (release)

 

And I gotta admit, that the feeling now is even better than back then.

Agreed man, it definitely gives me that wow-back-in-the-beginning feeling.

At this moment, I'd say it's average overall - with the potential to be above average.

The content is strong and beautiful - and the combat is quite fantastic. But the DESIGN is not for me. It's aimless and made for people who don't require direction or long-term goals. So it seems to me, anyway.

What I like most about the pve in the game is how they took the boring part of mmo questing out. It is still the same quest grind, with events thrown in(the events are great), except you don't have to constantly return to a quest hub. I really like how a quest finishes and the reward is in your mail. I also love all the waypoints. Nothing bored me more in past games than running around just to turn quests in.

I only have one complaint with the game so far. I don't understand why you can't trade with another player. I tried with my buddy and we couldn't do it.  I didn't even see a COD option in the mail system. Not really sure the reasoning to exclude player trades. I hope they add something so players can trade with one another. Other than that I think it is a pretty good game. It should hold my attention for some time.

fresh approach (not revolutionary, mind you) sits well with me, but...

it is too soon to rate the game against anything until i've played it more than a weekend and can at least communicate with (or join) my guild, experience a reliable grouping system, and evaluate the player economic system through the trading post. 

anyone who answers this thread otherwise is simply and very prematurely jumping to conclusions. 

Originally posted by 9reesracer9

fresh approach (not revolutionary, mind you) sits well with me, but...

it is too soon to rate the game against anything until i've played it more than a weekend and can at least communicate (or join) my guild, experience a reliable grouping system, and evaluate the player economic system through the trading post. 

anyone who answers this thread otherwise is simply and very prematurely jumping to conclusions. 

Does anybody here doubt there will be more polls like this one in a week, two weeks and a month at least?

Originally posted by DKLond

At this moment, I'd say it's average overall - with the potential to be above average.

The content is strong and beautiful - and the combat is quite fantastic. But the DESIGN is not for me. It's aimless and made for people who don't require direction or long-term goals. So it seems to me, anyway.

You probably just have to break down the illusionary "carrot" thing many has going on.

When people play WoW, they dont talk about playing for fun. They talk playing for gear grind.

In Guild Wars 2 you dont talk about playing for gear grind. They talk playing for nice looking gear, funny Dynamic Events, Awesome WvW or balanced sPvP.

GW2 is a funny game you can log off, and join at any time. Games like Counter-Strike doesnt have a carrot neither, and though the concept is over 12 years old - plenty of people still plays it.

GW2 is like Counter-Strike. No matter for how long you log in at  a time, you can still have fun and have the same advantage as everyone else. You win by having skills - not by having putted 80 hours, a broken relationship with your previous girlfriend and a washed-out social life, and given up your job.

Which I really like.

Against past/current games it's not in my list.

In terms of mmos, it's in the top 3 for sure.

Originally posted by MikeJezZ

Originally posted by DKLond

At this moment, I'd say it's average overall - with the potential to be above average.

The content is strong and beautiful - and the combat is quite fantastic. But the DESIGN is not for me. It's aimless and made for people who don't require direction or long-term goals. So it seems to me, anyway.

You probably just have to break down the illusionary "carrot" thing many has going on.

 

When people play WoW, they dont talk about playing for fun. They talk playing for gear grind.

 

In Guild Wars 2 you dont talk about playing for gear grind. They talk playing for nice looking gear, funny Dynamic Events, Awesome WvW or balanced sPvP.

 

GW2 is a funny game you can log off, and join at any time. Games like Counter-Strike doesnt have a carrot neither, and though the concept is over 12 years old - plenty of people still plays it.

 

GW2 is like Counter-Strike. No matter for how long you log in at  a time, you can still have fun and have the same advantage as everyone else. You win by having skills - not by having putted 80 hours, a broken relationship with your previous girlfriend and a washed-out social life, and given up your job.

 

Which I really like.

The illusion is that you think people enjoy the gear grind.

It's just a cheap shot to support GW2. No one is suggesting that a gear grind is superior to "vanity gear grind" - but that power is a motivation to continue to play. All RPGs are power-trips at the core, no matter how much people try to deny it - and no matter how much ArenaNet thinks it's not. Human nature is completely and utterly compelled to the power fantasy.

Another illusion, if there really is an illusion, is that "no power" is going to sustain long-term gameplay, if there is no alternative. If you really think vanity gear is a better long-term goal, then so be it.