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  MikeJezZ

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OP  8/26/12 1:04:33 PM#1
When I use 2 hand weapons with my guardian, I allmost loses 30% of my health at each hit. Why?

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  Nitth

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8/26/12 1:06:47 PM#2


Originally posted by MikeJezZ
When I use 2 hand weapons with my guardian, I allmost loses 30% of my health at each hit. Why?

What are you comparing it with? using a shield?


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  MikeJezZ

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OP  8/26/12 1:08:59 PM#3
Originally posted by Nitth

 


Originally posted by MikeJezZ
When I use 2 hand weapons with my guardian, I allmost loses 30% of my health at each hit. Why?

 

What are you comparing it with? using a shield?

I just know that warriors has alot more hitpoints than a guardian, how are guardians surposed to surivive?

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  Abor

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8/26/12 1:14:36 PM#4
Are you dodging? Are you kiting? If you're static while attacking mobs you'll get hit. Try running in a large oval 
  fundayz

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8/26/12 1:15:24 PM#5

If you are losing 30% of your health as a Guardian w/ any weapon you are doing something wrong.

Is your gear degraded? Are you alloting your trait points? relative level of the mobs?

  MikeJezZ

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OP  8/26/12 1:21:51 PM#6
When my warrior friend joines WvW he has around 30k, when Im in I have around 20k

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  VirgoThree

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8/26/12 1:23:46 PM#7
I'm thinking your warrior friend is vitality trait specced and you're not? I'm not sure, need more info I suppose. I haven't played guardian for release yet.
  Abor

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8/26/12 1:23:59 PM#8
Originally posted by MikeJezZ
When my warrior friend joines WvW he has around 30k, when Im in I have around 20k

From what I understand you have better defensive capabilities and possibly some heals that the warrior lacks. Therefore you have a lower health pool than a warrior to offset the differences.

Survivability "should" be equal between the two classes but I haven't played either class to say definitively. 

  grimm6th

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8/26/12 1:27:30 PM#9
Originally posted by MikeJezZ
Originally posted by Nitth

 


Originally posted by MikeJezZ
When I use 2 hand weapons with my guardian, I allmost loses 30% of my health at each hit. Why?

 

What are you comparing it with? using a shield?

I just know that warriors has alot more hitpoints than a guardian, how are guardians surposed to surivive?

Well, They have their virtues, which I am beginning to see as very strong, and they have some rediculous ways to just flat out block damage.

Try taking a sword/shield (or mace/shield, but I like sword better)and a staff and use the line of warding from staff, the shield of absorbtion from the shield and flashing blade and zealot's defence on the sword.

Throw in some utility skills, some dodging, and kiting with symbol of swiftness, and things shouldn't be too hard.

 

if you want to use great sword or hammer, then you have to play differently.  These are good weapons to use to break up larger groups, and hammers can give a good amount of disruption to enemy skills.

 

Guardians may have lower health than the warrior, but it is harder to hurt them, and they can do some silly things with their ward skills, should they choose to do so.  (protoss)

I used to TL;DR, but then I took a bullet point to the footnote.

  VooDoo_Papa

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8/26/12 1:28:50 PM#10

guardians havs the lowest hit point pool in the game

theyre not tanks, theyre not frontal assault

theyre a support class. your playstyle and misunderstanding of the class is getting you killed

  MikeJezZ

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OP  8/26/12 1:48:38 PM#11
Originally posted by VooDoo_Papa

guardians havs the lowest hit point pool in the game

theyre not tanks, theyre not frontal assault

theyre a support class. your playstyle and misunderstanding of the class is getting you killed

 

So even though he has plate on, I should be the last to join a fight?

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  Scalpless

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8/26/12 2:00:57 PM#12
Guardians are mediocre at taking damage and great at preventing it. You should be using your defensive skills to block as much damage as possible. Also, no matter what your class is, rushing in alone will get you killed quite often.
  MikeJezZ

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OP  8/26/12 2:13:02 PM#13
So when Im higher level and unlock the better skills later I should be fine?

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  cyress8

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8/26/12 2:40:42 PM#14
Originally posted by Scalpless
Guardians are mediocre at taking damage and great at preventing it. You should be using your defensive skills to block as much damage as possible. Also, no matter what your class is, rushing in alone will get you killed quite often.

True, even for a warrior.  I GO IN ALL RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHHHGGGGG "FOR GREAT JUSTICE!!!" Beat stuff down. Spam endure pain. Shout "OH NOES!!!!" Then I die.  But at least I went out with glory!

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  KingJiggly

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8/26/12 2:47:03 PM#15
Guardians have low health, high armor. They are designed to redirect/ lower damage on themselves and teammates. If you want in yo face, go warrior, or possibly thief.

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  MikeJezZ

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OP  8/26/12 2:57:36 PM#16
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Guardians have low health, high armor. They are designed to redirect/ lower damage on themselves and teammates. If you want in yo face, go warrior, or possibly thief.

So Guardian sucks as damage dealer?

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  Knightblast

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8/26/12 3:07:45 PM#17
Originally posted by MikeJezZ
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Guardians have low health, high armor. They are designed to redirect/ lower damage on themselves and teammates. If you want in yo face, go warrior, or possibly thief.

So Guardian sucks as damage dealer?

It's not the focus of the class.  I have a Guardian as well.  It's a defensive/buff class -- probably the best way to look at it -- not a magic using melee DPS class.

  MikeJezZ

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OP  8/26/12 3:15:09 PM#18
Originally posted by Knightblast
Originally posted by MikeJezZ
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Guardians have low health, high armor. They are designed to redirect/ lower damage on themselves and teammates. If you want in yo face, go warrior, or possibly thief.

So Guardian sucks as damage dealer?

It's not the focus of the class.  I have a Guardian as well.  It's a defensive/buff class -- probably the best way to look at it -- not a magic using melee DPS class.

So if I want to give damage and destroy some enemies, this is the wrong class??

 

I know I got debufs against enemies and I use them too.

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  Agart

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8/26/12 3:22:49 PM#19
i'd say yes it is the wrong class if you want pure damage.
  Sandblox

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8/26/12 4:03:13 PM#20

Im seeing a lot of confusion in this thread so let me try to help you out OP....

 

Guardians do indeed have the lowest health pool along with the Thief, howver you need to take into account your abilities and EHP. 

If you want DAMGE then using a Greatsword is fine thanks to Whirling Wrath or whatever it is called does very big damage and will be your bread and butter. 1h Sword also puts out some very good damage using zealots defense and as for conditions the Guardian is a bit limited and has a focus on burning. 

If you spec for a full damage guardian you will put out near the damage of a Warrior howver you have some added perks....nearly every move you have has support type effects built in even with having to spec for them, this is HUGE. SPirit Weapons are also VERY powerful.

If a Warrior goes glass cannon he will have an edge damage wise but he gives up a lot to get there where as the Guardian still has tons of team support built into his skillset. 

Both can go more defensive / support but in this I feel Guardian is superior. 

Warriors have the highest healthpool in the game but Guardians have more tools to mitigate damagfe for himself and his team. 

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