Originally posted by Nikkita

Originally posted by kaiser3282

Originally posted by Ikeda

Originally posted by tordurbar
I suspect that the OP is eating crow right now as noone that I know can log in. I expected some issue but not this bad. Anet is not looking good here. They had to have know how many people pre-ordered the game so that had to have know about how many people would be on early launch. It looks as if they severely miscalcuated the percent of purchasers who would log in immediately or their network.  On the other hand, the fact that they still were doing stress tests THREE days before launch and STILL had issues makes me pessimistic that Anet will fix the issues before Aug 28.

Seriously?

1)  They brought the servers up 3 hrs early.

2)  We had 60+ people in our guild CONNECTED.  Of them, over the course of the 7 hours I was on, 2 had D/C problems until this recent event.

3)  With the exception of some wierd overflow server stuff, everything has been smooth as silk.

Judging from this site, there are tons of trolls and tons of people whining to whine.  I can't tell whom is whom now.  I don't doubt some people are having issues but this is FAR from a bad launch thus far.  I've had 7 hours uninterrupted on day 1.. that's by all accounts god-like for ANET.  And if they took this login server down now to fix the problem for everyone else (or even just to  ATTEMPT to repair it) then good for them for being so damned proactive.  Check out their twitter.  They are trying to respond as much as they can.

But Ikeda, it sthe internetz. You have to remember, anytime "I" have a problem, it means every single other person in the world is having that exact same problem because "I" am the center of the universe. Nevermind all the people that were actually playing all morning while these guys were trolling the forums. They dont exist. A small percentage of people havent been able to play, obviously only they count.

And what if the company acknowledges the issue and make annoucement about it? that means that issues are not just limited to 'I'.

So before you accuse people of being trolls check official forums and Anet's announcement on Facebook and twitter regarding login issues.

You seem to be confusing acknowledging that some are having issues, with assuming that because you have an issue, every single person is having that same issue. A lot of you like to claim that because you had an issue, EVERYONE has that issue, even though its been said again and again and again that people arent having those same issues and have been playing fine.

Reading comprehension skills do absolutely wonderful things for you on forums that require reading. As Ikeda himself said, he played 7 hours uninterrupted. I was also logged in since shortly after servers came up and had no issues, not even lag, until the recent login server errors.

Originally posted by Syno23

Smooth launches. Think about it.

SW:TOR we had the queue times and couldn't get in until all of our names were taken. That's no way to start a launch. In waves, yeah right. Most launches like Warhammer and Age of Conan were terrible. MMO launches are bad.

But GW2 has tested their servers weeks and days in advance in order to make sure that they will have the perfect launch. No crashes, no queue times, just log in and play with a good connection, that's all.

yeah smooth... 

create Sylvari Elementist ...CHECK! 

Body Type ...CHECK!

face ...CHECK!  

hair style...CHECK!

Armour dyes... CHECK!

create name... CHECK!

All that stuff  takes me like half hour to make all my choices then go through "my story" cinematic ....CHECK!

 and then.......and then........and then...........

BLACK SCREEN OF DEATH

NO DAMN CHECKIE! 

Originally posted by kaiser3282

Originally posted by Nikkita

Originally posted by kaiser3282

Originally posted by Ikeda

Originally posted by tordurbar
I suspect that the OP is eating crow right now as noone that I know can log in. I expected some issue but not this bad. Anet is not looking good here. They had to have know how many people pre-ordered the game so that had to have know about how many people would be on early launch. It looks as if they severely miscalcuated the percent of purchasers who would log in immediately or their network.  On the other hand, the fact that they still were doing stress tests THREE days before launch and STILL had issues makes me pessimistic that Anet will fix the issues before Aug 28.

Seriously?

1)  They brought the servers up 3 hrs early.

2)  We had 60+ people in our guild CONNECTED.  Of them, over the course of the 7 hours I was on, 2 had D/C problems until this recent event.

3)  With the exception of some wierd overflow server stuff, everything has been smooth as silk.

Judging from this site, there are tons of trolls and tons of people whining to whine.  I can't tell whom is whom now.  I don't doubt some people are having issues but this is FAR from a bad launch thus far.  I've had 7 hours uninterrupted on day 1.. that's by all accounts god-like for ANET.  And if they took this login server down now to fix the problem for everyone else (or even just to  ATTEMPT to repair it) then good for them for being so damned proactive.  Check out their twitter.  They are trying to respond as much as they can.

But Ikeda, it sthe internetz. You have to remember, anytime "I" have a problem, it means every single other person in the world is having that exact same problem because "I" am the center of the universe. Nevermind all the people that were actually playing all morning while these guys were trolling the forums. They dont exist. A small percentage of people havent been able to play, obviously only they count.

And what if the company acknowledges the issue and make annoucement about it? that means that issues are not just limited to 'I'.

So before you accuse people of being trolls check official forums and Anet's announcement on Facebook and twitter regarding login issues.

You seem to be confusing acknowledging that some are having issues, with assuming that because you have an issue, every single person is having that same issue. A lot of you like to claim that because you had an issue, EVERYONE has that issue, even though its been said again and again and again that people arent having those same issues and have been playing fine.

Reading comprehension skills do absolutely wonderful things for you on forums that require reading. As Ikeda himself said, he played 7 hours uninterrupted. I was also logged in since shortly after servers came up and had no issues, not even lag, until the recent login server errors.

And from where did you get this idea that only 'some' are having these issues? let me guess because everyhting was fine with 'IKEDA'... *rolls eyes*

you got access to some internal data from Anet that we don't know about? no one even claimed that everyone is goign through same login issues. Care to show me? however you did accuse people for trolling only because they are going through problems that you never faced.

Right now it is your word against ANET who acknowledged the issue on Facebook and Twitter. Before official forums went kaput a large number of posts were complaining about similar issues.

Trust me you should be the last person to tell me or anyone about reading comprehension.

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Originally posted by kaiser3282

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Originally posted by Nikkita

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Originally posted by kaiser3282

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Originally posted by Ikeda

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Originally posted by tordurbar I suspect that the OP is eating crow right now as noone that I know can log in. I expected some issue but not this bad. Anet is not looking good here. They had to have know how many people pre-ordered the game so that had to have know about how many people would be on early launch. It looks as if they severely miscalcuated the percent of purchasers who would log in immediately or their network.  On the other hand, the fact that they still were doing stress tests THREE days before launch and STILL had issues makes me pessimistic that Anet will fix the issues before Aug 28.

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Seriously? 1)  They brought the servers up 3 hrs early. 2)  We had 60+ people in our guild CONNECTED.  Of them, over the course of the 7 hours I was on, 2 had D/C problems until this recent event. 3)  With the exception of some wierd overflow server stuff, everything has been smooth as silk. Judging from this site, there are tons of trolls and tons of people whining to whine.  I can't tell whom is whom now.  I don't doubt some people are having issues but this is FAR from a bad launch thus far.  I've had 7 hours uninterrupted on day 1.. that's by all accounts god-like for ANET.  And if they took this login server down now to fix the problem for everyone else (or even just to  ATTEMPT to repair it) then good for them for being so damned proactive.  Check out their twitter.  They are trying to respond as much as they can.

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But Ikeda, it sthe internetz. You have to remember, anytime "I" have a problem, it means every single other person in the world is having that exact same problem because "I" am the center of the universe. Nevermind all the people that were actually playing all morning while these guys were trolling the forums. They dont exist. A small percentage of people havent been able to play, obviously only they count.

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And what if the company acknowledges the issue and make annoucement about it? that means that issues are not just limited to 'I'. So before you accuse people of being trolls check official forums and Anet's announcement on Facebook and twitter regarding login issues.

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You seem to be confusing acknowledging that some are having issues, with assuming that because you have an issue, every single person is having that same issue. A lot of you like to claim that because you had an issue, EVERYONE has that issue, even though its been said again and again and again that people arent having those same issues and have been playing fine.

Reading comprehension skills do absolutely wonderful things for you on forums that require reading. As Ikeda himself said, he played 7 hours uninterrupted. I was also logged in since shortly after servers came up and had no issues, not even lag, until the recent login server errors.

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Instead of trying to defend that mess of a launch I suggest you go here to their twitter, scroll a bit up and down and read that stuff. I personally feel sorry for those guys. After reading some of those tweets about WvWvW being bugged, sPVP not working, people crashing and people being unable to log in at all there really remains to wonder what is working as intended at all.

Originally posted by kaiser3282

Originally posted by Nikkita

Originally posted by kaiser3282

Originally posted by Ikeda

Originally posted by tordurbar
I suspect that the OP is eating crow right now as noone that I know can log in. I expected some issue but not this bad. Anet is not looking good here. They had to have know how many people pre-ordered the game so that had to have know about how many people would be on early launch. It looks as if they severely miscalcuated the percent of purchasers who would log in immediately or their network.  On the other hand, the fact that they still were doing stress tests THREE days before launch and STILL had issues makes me pessimistic that Anet will fix the issues before Aug 28.

Seriously?

1)  They brought the servers up 3 hrs early.

2)  We had 60+ people in our guild CONNECTED.  Of them, over the course of the 7 hours I was on, 2 had D/C problems until this recent event.

3)  With the exception of some wierd overflow server stuff, everything has been smooth as silk.

Judging from this site, there are tons of trolls and tons of people whining to whine.  I can't tell whom is whom now.  I don't doubt some people are having issues but this is FAR from a bad launch thus far.  I've had 7 hours uninterrupted on day 1.. that's by all accounts god-like for ANET.  And if they took this login server down now to fix the problem for everyone else (or even just to  ATTEMPT to repair it) then good for them for being so damned proactive.  Check out their twitter.  They are trying to respond as much as they can.

But Ikeda, it sthe internetz. You have to remember, anytime "I" have a problem, it means every single other person in the world is having that exact same problem because "I" am the center of the universe. Nevermind all the people that were actually playing all morning while these guys were trolling the forums. They dont exist. A small percentage of people havent been able to play, obviously only they count.

And what if the company acknowledges the issue and make annoucement about it? that means that issues are not just limited to 'I'.

So before you accuse people of being trolls check official forums and Anet's announcement on Facebook and twitter regarding login issues.

You seem to be confusing acknowledging that some are having issues, with assuming that because you have an issue, every single person is having that same issue. A lot of you like to claim that because you had an issue, EVERYONE has that issue, even though its been said again and again and again that people arent having those same issues and have been playing fine.

Reading comprehension skills do absolutely wonderful things for you on forums that require reading. As Ikeda himself said, he played 7 hours uninterrupted. I was also logged in since shortly after servers came up and had no issues, not even lag, until the recent login server errors.

And again you get it completely arse about face. See my previous post for why.

The 'recent login server issues' are what everyone is riled about. They are not 'recent' in the EU by the way.

Incidentally reading comprehension does not save your point from being completely and utterly logically fallacious. You are affirming the consequent not only that its a complete straw man argument anyway. The only person that suggested 'every one is having problems' was you in your rebuttal.

Originally posted by Praetalus
This ain't smooth. I can't play. Judging from this site... lot's of folks can't play. 

When I logged in about 5 hours ago there were only 4 servers that were not listed as full, only 4 I could even make my home server. I picked one and snatched my 5 names then logged out of the game. I tried logging back in moments later to play one of them and got the login server not up issue. It wouldn't surprise me if they manually turned down the login server to new players while they add more servers to the list, thereby keeping people out until they are ready for them. There may in fact be people playing right this moment who logged in while they had it up. Has anyone seen a login queue yet? If not I'm gonna bet on them taking the login server offline to control the wave.

Originally posted by Syno23
They're attemping to raise the bar much better than other MMO companies that tried for that perfect launch. But yeah, the post is a bit too early.

I'd say so, Syno, I'd say it was too early.

Originally posted by Syno23

Smooth launches. Think about it.

SW:TOR we had the queue times and couldn't get in until all of our names were taken. That's no way to start a launch. In waves, yeah right. Most launches like Warhammer and Age of Conan were terrible. MMO launches are bad.

But GW2 has tested their servers weeks and days in advance in order to make sure that they will have the perfect launch. No crashes, no queue times, just log in and play with a good connection, that's all.

Funny thing hind site is huh. At this time on the GW2 launch, no crashes (can't tell, can't log in), no queue times (can't get past the login server to get into a queue if they had them), just log in and play with a good connection (those that did get in earlier to snag a server slot and make characters were met with tons of lag, some got disconnected it was so bad). Oh and last but not least, couldnt' get in until all of our names were gone (I got in 14 minutes after 0:00 PST headstart launch time, all but 4 servers were already full, and the one I did get on.....6 of my 10 desired names were already taken - and since your stuck with the server you pick BEFORE you can see if all your names are gone, you have NO choice but to take whats left or make new ones).

So to quote your OP....That's no way to start a launch....................

This could be the first MMO to crash the MMORPG.com website.

@Nikkita  - You must have missed, or chose to ignore (for extra troll) points exactly what i quoted you on in the other thread about the character select stuff. You were in that thread claiming "everyone on planet Earth" (your own words) was having those problems, when obviously they werent. So yes "some" were having those issues. Grats on being too dense to remember your own words once again.

Its funny you should talk about my reading comprehension when you apparently cant even read your own babbling, let alone the part where I said I was playing as well. Not just Ikeda. I also never accused anyone of trolling about the login errors that hit over an hour ago. I actually specifically pointed out that that was acknowledged by Anet in the other thread as well, but NOT the character select stuff you mentioned.

You seem to like somehow interpreting my words directed at some specific people (like yourself) who are trolling and claiming isolated cases of certain issues are impacting every player, as me saying anyone who says they have any problem is trolling. Some issues are widesread, some arent. You claiming every problem you as an individual have as known fact that EVERY player is having it, is nothing mor ethan ridiculous trolling.

*slow clap for the special kid* 

@Gorilla -  see the above as well as this thread: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5244316#5244316 which i was referring to with Nikkita. I never suggested anything about "everyone". Others, like Nikkita, have insisted that certain problems, like the one i quoted Nikkita on there, are impacting everyone. Many people have played for hours with no issue until the login servers went down, but even before the login server issues you had people like this claiming every issue they ran into was also being had by every other player, even though they have absolutely no clue and still insist on it in the face of those telling them they had none of the issues they mention. You should probably learn to not take broad generalizations  out of context and try to apply them to specific points, which i never mentioned in the 1st place, also. Did I come in here saying that the login issues that started between 1-2 hours ago arent happening to everyone? I was referring to OTHER issues that people have been posting since before that even happened. This includes the EU login problems. Some in EU can play, some cant. Even if EVERY EU player cant login, that is still only some players, not all players, as the world is bigger than just EU.

the only bar i see being raised is the hype bar

all i see is them cashing in a quick buck on the mmorpg theampark era ..not to mention tossing in cash shops

Originally posted by kaiser3282

@Nikkita  - You must have missed, or chose to ignore (for extra troll) points exactly what i quoted you on in the other thread about the character select stuff. You were in that thread claiming "everyone on planet Earth" (your own words) was having those problems, when obviously they werent. So yes "some" were having those issues. Grats on being too dense to remember your own words once again.

You sure it was me? because i said no such thing. If you care to show me the post i will admit i was wrong.

Its funny you should talk about my reading comprehension when you apparently cant even read your own babbling, let alone the part where I said I was playing as well. Not just Ikeda. I also never accused anyone of trolling about the login errors that hit over an hour ago. I actually specifically pointed out that that was acknowledged by Anet in the other thread as well, but NOT the character select stuff you mentioned.

So you and Ikeda had no problems that means everyone else is trolling? yes that is exactly what you said. You even tried to downplay the whole thing and till i mentioned about Facebook and twitter thing you didn't even know about it.

You seem to like somehow interpreting my words directed at some specific people (like yourself) who are trolling and claiming isolated cases of certain issues are impacting every player, as me saying anyone who says they have any problem is trolling. Some issues are widesread, some arent. You claiming every problem you as an individual have as known fact that EVERY player is having it, is nothing mor ethan ridiculous trolling.

*slow clap for the special kid* 

Once again you fail to show me where i said 'everyone is goign through same issues'.  Is it really that hard for yout to quote the post? it was your interpretation that people complaining here about log in problems are somehow trying to give an impression that 'everyone' is having same issues. The point was brought up by you and not by me or anyone else.

And yet you fail to show otherwise. Only because you can insult me doesn't mean you are right.

So clap for you too.

Originally posted by Syno23

Smooth launches. Think about it.

SW:TOR we had the queue times and couldn't get in until all of our names were taken. That's no way to start a launch. In waves, yeah right. Most launches like Warhammer and Age of Conan were terrible. MMO launches are bad.

But GW2 has tested their servers weeks and days in advance in order to make sure that they will have the perfect launch. No crashes, no queue times, just log in and play with a good connection, that's all.

WTH!?!?  I almost spit my coffee all over my screen when I read the first 5 words.  A little bit of warning next time.

Originally posted by ScribZ

Funny thing hind site is huh. At this time on the GW2 launch, no crashes (can't tell, can't log in), no queue times (can't get past the login server to get into a queue if they had them), just log in and play with a good connection (those that did get in earlier to snag a server slot and make characters were met with tons of lag, some got disconnected it was so bad). Oh and last but not least, couldnt' get in until all of our names were gone (I got in 14 minutes after 0:00 PST headstart launch time, all but 4 servers were already full, and the one I did get on.....6 of my 10 desired names were already taken - and since your stuck with the server you pick BEFORE you can see if all your names are gone, you have NO choice but to take whats left or make new ones).

 

So to quote your OP....That's no way to start a launch....................

Yet another example of what im talking about. The part in red is the type of stuff im talking about. "I" had lag, automatically = everyone had lag to some of you. I personally had no lag at all on my end on Sanctum of Rall. But those who did have lag (or in some cases dont know the differenc ebetween laga nd slow performance on their own PC), automatically assume every player in the game is having the same issue they are.

Also gotta love the whole "someone took my name" thing and throwing it in with technical issues as if it is Anets fault you couldnt come up with something less generic.

Originally posted by Nikkita

Originally posted by kaiser3282

@Nikkita  - You must have missed, or chose to ignore (for extra troll) points exactly what i quoted you on in the other thread about the character select stuff. You were in that thread claiming "everyone on planet Earth" (your own words) was having those problems, when obviously they werent. So yes "some" were having those issues. Grats on being too dense to remember your own words once again.

You sure it was me? because i said no such thing. If you care to show me the post i will admit i was wrong.

Its funny you should talk about my reading comprehension when you apparently cant even read your own babbling, let alone the part where I said I was playing as well. Not just Ikeda. I also never accused anyone of trolling about the login errors that hit over an hour ago. I actually specifically pointed out that that was acknowledged by Anet in the other thread as well, but NOT the character select stuff you mentioned.

So you and Ikeda had no problems that means everyone else is trolling? yes that is exactly what you said. You even tried to downplay the whole thing and till i mentioned about Facebook and twitter thing you didn't even know about it.

You seem to like somehow interpreting my words directed at some specific people (like yourself) who are trolling and claiming isolated cases of certain issues are impacting every player, as me saying anyone who says they have any problem is trolling. Some issues are widesread, some arent. You claiming every problem you as an individual have as known fact that EVERY player is having it, is nothing mor ethan ridiculous trolling.

*slow clap for the special kid* 

Once again you fail to show me where i said 'everyone is goign through same issues'.  Is it really that hard for yout to quote the post? it was your interpretation that people complaining here about log in problems are somehow trying to give an impression that 'everyone' is having same issues. The point was brought up by you and not by me or anyone else.

And yet you fail to show otherwise. Only because you can insult me doesn't mean you are right.

So clap for you too.

Still waiting for you to show the posts to prove the things you have been accusing me for. I will be waiting.

Ok correction, it was rdrpappy who made the original post i quoted about everyone having the character select issues, and I said it was not everyone. But then it was you who insisted they posted it about it on facebook and twitter (which was a lie, becaus ethey did not acknowledge that at all). As I said in my post there, they acknowledged the login server issues (and dont be so proud of yourself, i was looking at it well before you mentioned it. twitter and FB arent exactly a secret....)

Now, i think issue here still comes down to your failed ability to read. You said "It is a widespread issue". If by "it" you mean the login server problems, yes it is. But thats not what I was talking about in my post which you quoted and replied to with "it is a widespread issue". I was quoting someone who said "overflow switching was kicking everyone on planet Earth out to the character selection". So maybe you should pay attention to what is being talked about, rather than quoting others who  re talking about 1 thing, then referring to an entirely different subject without actually stating what it is youre talking about.

Originally posted by DSWBeef
Uhh rift had the smoothest launch ive ever seen. Tsw a close second.

The issues with most launches are simply issues with scale. When you only have to deal with a "few" hundred thousand gamers pounding on your servers its quite different than dealing with a "few" million. Neither of those games launched with anywhere near the popularity of GW2 or D3. 

The appology response from Anet will be something along the lines "We were not prepared" for the number of people that logged in day one. The've built enough positive hype that they will servive this just fine. These forums however we become a bastion of haters "feasting on the tears" of fanboys. So grab some popcorn, we can't play GW2 anyway :).

Originally posted by kaiser3282

Originally posted by ScribZ

Funny thing hind site is huh. At this time on the GW2 launch, no crashes (can't tell, can't log in), no queue times (can't get past the login server to get into a queue if they had them), just log in and play with a good connection (those that did get in earlier to snag a server slot and make characters were met with tons of lag, some got disconnected it was so bad). Oh and last but not least, couldnt' get in until all of our names were gone (I got in 14 minutes after 0:00 PST headstart launch time, all but 4 servers were already full, and the one I did get on.....6 of my 10 desired names were already taken - and since your stuck with the server you pick BEFORE you can see if all your names are gone, you have NO choice but to take whats left or make new ones).

 

So to quote your OP....That's no way to start a launch....................

Yet another example of what im talking about. The part in red is the type of stuff im talking about. "I" had lag, automatically = everyone had lag to some of you. I personally had no lag at all on my end on Sanctum of Rall. But those who did have lag (or in some cases dont know the differenc ebetween laga nd slow performance on their own PC), automatically assume every player in the game is having the same issue they are.

Also gotta love the whole "someone took my name" thing and throwing it in with technical issues as if it is Anets fault you couldnt come up with something less generic.

Ok, lets set the stage for you Kaiser, I am an Engineer by trade. I am the guy that keeps your internet working, the backbone of your gaming world. I know FAR more than you do on what causes the lag in these games than MOST on the planet, I have been doing this since the internet was invented (yes I am that old). I do know what causes lag and what is slow performance on my own PC (there is by the way NO performance issues on my own PC, my bet is you, your mommy and your daddy combined couldnt even afford to buy what I have in my home office and play my games on). So lets cut the bullshit friend shall we. You are having a bad day because your game of choice is not perfoming to the 100% specs you thought it should be and everyone is seeing it. Dont come on here calling everyone a liar because you are having a bad day. Personally I think everyone, and I do mean EVERYONE on these forums has been VERY patient with you and YOUR attitude in the past couple of hours. But that patients is starting to run VERY thin with some of us. Cut it out, go shopping, go watch TV, go do something, ANYTHING that will get you away from your current anger issues, because I for one am at my ropes end just reading the trash you are dumping out of your lips on here.

You dont know me, dont assume you do. You have no right to do so. And yes I am taking this personally, you swung the first attack against me to help further your trash comments against others. Sorry to burst your bubble bud, but I am not the kind to sit idly by and just take it. TIme for you to shut up. My comments were a reflection of my own personal experience and the knowledge gathered from reading EVERY SINGLE POST ON THESE FORUMS IN THE PAST 2 HOURS. Combine that with the phone conference I have up right now with 9 of my player friends from around the world telling me what they too have experienced so far.

Originally posted by vesuvias

Originally posted by DSWBeef
Uhh rift had the smoothest launch ive ever seen. Tsw a close second.

The issues with most launches are simply issues with scale. When you only have to deal with a "few" hundred thousand gamers pounding on your servers its quite different than dealing with a "few" million. Neither of those games launched with anywhere near the popularity of GW2 or D3. 

The appology response from Anet will be something along the lines "We were not prepared" for the number of people that logged in day one. The've built enough positive hype that they will servive this just fine. These forums however we become a bastion of haters "feasting on the tears" of fanboys. So grab some popcorn, we can't play GW2 anyway :).

?

Rift had a million.

TSW had less than 550k

Diablo had millions upon millions

SWTOR had 2 million

Do you have any indicator of how many GW2 as?