Originally posted by Tempramental
Glad I didn't get up at some ungodly hour (8 or 9 am). 

I am glad I did and got some hours in before it went down...

Originally posted by Reizla

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Seen this "We're working on it" for the last 8 hours... Only been able to play like 90 minutes max (over 3 sessions) before I got kicked. I'm really starting to wonder why those stress-tests were done the last few weeks.

 Much like Blizzard during WoW's launch, I believe Arenanet miscalculated number of players due to so many last minute sales.  I saw multiple threads of people prepurchasing >1-2 days prior to headstart.  That does not give them enough time to allocate more servers.  This happens so often, yet players seem so upset and shocked each time.

Cheers!

Played 8 hours straight with no issues then i reloged -_- never should have done that ^^
Game looks and feels more then epic tough, this is going to be one fracking mmo.

Originally posted by vmoped

Minute 15 since crash: Spirits remain high.  We are using this time to stretch and care for the animals.  I'm sure this will be over soon.

Minute 30 since crash: Wife went insane.  She began babbling and frothing at the mouth... I had no choice... I had to... My god... Forgive me!

Minute 45 since crash: Hot pockets and red bull are all gone.  My bladder tells me to leave, but I know my precious will be back soon... soon...

Minute 60 since crash: I hear the howling downstairs.  No sign of login servers, was forced to make a horrible decision.  No supplies... so hungry... wife's sleeping form looks so damn delicious....

Cheers!

Lol. My husband went to work, bombarding me with venomous looks full of envy. He still thinks I'm playing. Starting to envy him for not having to look at the error messages I keep getting. 

Originally posted by vmoped

 Much like Blizzard during WoW's launch, I believe Arenanet miscalculated number of players due to so many last minute sales.  I saw multiple threads of people prepurchasing >1-2 days prior to headstart.  That does not give them enough time to allocate more servers.  This happens so often, yet players seem so upset and shocked each time.

Cheers!

I suspect one of the reasons players becomed shocked and upset is because it happens each time. I have to admit, even I'm a little surprised the industry hasn't figured out launch authentication capacity planning by now. The game runs like a dream, but same old same old with the login servers.

Originally posted by vmoped

Minute 15 since crash: Spirits remain high.  We are using this time to stretch and care for the animals.  I'm sure this will be over soon.

Minute 30 since crash: Wife went insane.  She began babbling and frothing at the mouth... I had no choice... I had to... My god... Forgive me!

Minute 45 since crash: Hot pockets and red bull are all gone.  My bladder tells me to leave, but I know my precious will be back soon... soon...

Minute 60 since crash: I hear the howling downstairs.  No sign of login servers, was forced to make a horrible decision.  No supplies... so hungry... wife's sleeping form looks so damn delicious....

Cheers!

Lol!

My wife attacked me last night at 9:00pm right when servers opened (she's not a gamer), and I thought 'Okay, after this I'll play.' Then the baby woke up, and I was up 'til midnight. Too tired to play after, and now the servers are down. Noooooooo!

Originally posted by Digna
I assume that 'server crash' refers to the login servers? I've been on for the past 6 hours. A few minutes ago I got up for coffee and came back to see the login error.

Yes the servers are still running, but no one can log on.

Originally posted by DanitaKusor

Originally posted by Digna
I assume that 'server crash' refers to the login servers? I've been on for the past 6 hours. A few minutes ago I got up for coffee and came back to see the login error.

Yes the servers are still running, but no one can log on.

TY. I guess my physician was right. Should have cut back on coffee. Might still be playing (wink)

Originally posted by Digna

Originally posted by DanitaKusor

Originally posted by Digna
I assume that 'server crash' refers to the login servers? I've been on for the past 6 hours. A few minutes ago I got up for coffee and came back to see the login error.

Yes the servers are still running, but no one can log on.

TY. I guess my physician was right. Should have cut back on coffee. Might still be playing (wink)

Or put the coffe-maker next to your pc.

Originally posted by Darkmoth

Originally posted by vmoped

 Much like Blizzard during WoW's launch, I believe Arenanet miscalculated number of players due to so many last minute sales.  I saw multiple threads of people prepurchasing >1-2 days prior to headstart.  That does not give them enough time to allocate more servers.  This happens so often, yet players seem so upset and shocked each time.

Cheers!

I suspect one of the reasons players becomed shocked and upset is because it happens each time. I have to admit, even I'm a little surprised the industry hasn't figured out launch authentication capacity planning by now. The game runs like a dream, but same old same old with the login servers.

I don't think they haven't figured it out. It's just that it's not financially sensible for them to commit to solving it.

Every major new MMO has this huge overcrowding issue at launch - say, for the first week. The only way they can battle it is more servers. And that means more money spent - for hardware that's not going to be needed after just a few weeks. In some games this also means empty servers after a few weeks as well. 

SWTOR did try to battle it. They opened up a huge number of servers. Servers which, after a couple of months, were practically ghost towns. That meant quite some money wasted and an exceedingly urgent problem on their hands.

I'm guessing ArenaNet will be cautious with the hardware upgrades.

Originally posted by Tempramental

Originally posted by Digna

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TY. I guess my physician was right. Should have cut back on coffee. Might still be playing (wink)

Or put the coffe-maker next to your pc.

Originally posted by solarine

 

 

I don't think they haven't figured it out. It's just that it's not financially sensible for them to commit to solving it.

Every major new MMO has this huge overcrowding issue at launch - say, for the first week. The only way they can battle it is more servers. And that means more money spent - for hardware that's not going to be needed after just a few weeks. In some games this also means empty servers after a few weeks as well. 

SWTOR did try to battle it. They opened up a huge number of servers. Servers which, after a couple of months, were practically ghost towns. That meant quite some money wasted and an exceedingly urgent problem on their hands.

I'm guessing ArenaNet will be cautious with the hardware upgrades.

This!

My daytime job just so happens to be "operations"

I have seen many game openings over the years, many... many many. and have been just as upset as I took off from highschool, college, dates, work, my wedding........ and many other events just to catch the opening of a game only to be let down as the game became unplayable the first days.

now that I work BEHIND the scenes myself, its exactly as the above poster said. imagine each server you play on, is actually 2 computers strapped together (raid2 server) so when it crashes you have a backup to it. so thats 7-9k for each one, you put out 30 servers and after the hype dies down of the first day you only needed 26. and after the hype dies down from the first month you only needed 22. and after people get bored/add kicks in and you are left with only the people who will play the game long term you have 18.   so you just wasted $98,000 for 6  weeks worth of time.

So you still have to have backups, but to have that much extra hardware to solve all problems just isnt economicly rasonable.

Originally posted by kraiden

Originally posted by solarine

 

 

I don't think they haven't figured it out. It's just that it's not financially sensible for them to commit to solving it.

Every major new MMO has this huge overcrowding issue at launch - say, for the first week. The only way they can battle it is more servers. And that means more money spent - for hardware that's not going to be needed after just a few weeks. In some games this also means empty servers after a few weeks as well. 

SWTOR did try to battle it. They opened up a huge number of servers. Servers which, after a couple of months, were practically ghost towns. That meant quite some money wasted and an exceedingly urgent problem on their hands.

I'm guessing ArenaNet will be cautious with the hardware upgrades.

This!

My daytime job just so happens to be "operations"

I have seen many game openings over the years, many... many many. and have been just as upset as I took off from highschool, college, dates, work, my wedding........ and many other events just to catch the opening of a game only to be let down as the game became unplayable the first days.

now that I work BEHIND the scenes myself, its exactly as the above poster said. imagine each server you play on, is actually 2 computers strapped together (raid2 server) so when it crashes you have a backup to it. so thats 7-9k for each one, you put out 30 servers and after the hype dies down of the first day you only needed 26. and after the hype dies down from the first month you only needed 22. and after people get bored/add kicks in and you are left with only the people who will play the game long term you have 18.   so you just wasted $98,000 for 6  weeks worth of time.

So you still have to have backups, but to have that much extra hardware to solve all problems just isnt economicly rasonable.

That's because for the past 5 years game developers keep making the same crap over and over again that we as players have said - we don't want.

I have been praying every game launch for a game that's fun, engaging, truly innovative that allows me as a player to have an impact in the game world I'm playing in. Not some hamster wheel instanced pvp in a can.

I lasted in TSW a month.

I lasted in SWTOR about a month.

If you believe in your game, and you believe you've actually made something that players will want to play - you will make enough servers to ensure a good launch - this is just another example of gaming companies taking their players for granted.