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8/25/12 2:19:04 AM#41
Originally posted by kol56 I'm one of those people who use terms like... MMORPG and WoW clone. Themepark is a term that was coined circa 2007 to describe games like WoW, LotRO, and the like. Linear, led by the hand, casual, safe, games. It DOES NOT apply to DAoC or EQ. |
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8/25/12 2:26:45 AM#42
Originally posted by Tibernicus http://www.accidentsplanet.com/2010/04/10-most-terrible-amusement-park.html ... sorry couldnt resist, beside that I think your definition is a bit... let's say unusual *cough*
On topic: I played UO from before 2nd age until a few months after aos and have no idea how the game changed since then, but I doubt that a true UO2 has a real chance for success. In times of everybody wins, everything must be balanced and fair, everything is too inconvenient if it's not instant gratification I can't see how a successor of UO would fit in. |
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8/25/12 2:29:23 AM#43
There is no mythic anymore it's EA now.
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8/25/12 2:36:54 AM#44
Originally posted by Tibernicus The people that originally created Dark Age of Camelot are long gone from Mythic. The lead designer for the RvR that we used to love is the head man for The Elder Scrolls Online I think, not really sure though. In a world of sharp knives, you would be a spoon. |
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8/25/12 2:39:13 AM#45
Originally posted by Tibernicus Actually Mark "The Shitstain" Jacobs was already destroying DAoC before EA bought Mythic. Jacobs created his worthless pile of garbage expansions calle Trials of Shit, and Shit Frontiers. Those 2 worthless expansions were killing DAoC long before Mythic sold out to EA. The Lancelot server that I played on lost around half its playerbase within 3 months of Shit Frontiers. Nobody liked that crap. In a world of sharp knives, you would be a spoon. |
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8/25/12 2:50:22 AM#46
Originally posted by Tibernicus
How can you claim the "potential" game is beneath your standards when it isn't even past the approval stage? You know nothing about it. You (I don't literally mean *you*) just refuse to listen to even a possibility of a game being made. The game could have the brightest minds, biggest budget, most creative team ever assembled, but you guys already write it off as rubbish before it even gets off the ground. [mod edit]
You deserve what you get....NOTHING. Have fun playing....NOTHING. /sigh
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8/25/12 2:51:21 AM#47
Originally posted by Vladamyre Actually, New Frontiers was quite popular and well recieved by the majority of the community. ToA was not. Hence why the classic servers came into being. Mythic was planning both a true classic server (roll back to pre SI) and a sequel, but EA canned both projects when they bought Mythic. |
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8/25/12 2:52:50 AM#48
Originally posted by Psychow Two things. First, my response was to the poster who claimed that "no game will live up to their standardes". Second, we know plenty about this game just based off pattern recognition. It's a very VERY safe bet to assume that it'll be garbage, considering what this company is doing to WAR, DAoC, SWTOR, UO, and all the Ultima spinoffs. Originally posted by Psychow Yeah, cause those things worked out SO WELL for SWTOR lmao. And sure I'll be happy. When devs can live up to the quality of MMOs made by 30 men teams on a shoestring budget in the 90s again, then I'll be happy. Until then, Vanguard will have to do. |
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8/25/12 3:53:46 AM#49
The MMO genre has been hoisted on the petard of better graphics, so doubt a small man team will make a mainstream MMO again. I don’t think Mythic were as bad as some are making out here, but not good enough to get my unequivocal support either. |
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8/25/12 4:28:35 AM#50
No, they want to crap on UO and sell it.
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8/25/12 4:38:00 AM#51
Originally posted by Rednecksith Not to mention trying to convince EA...of ALL companies to make it? Next to Blizzard, one of the biggest money whoring gaming companies around. Tells me it will be yet another poorly done, un-entertaining past a month clone like most of the rest of them. Not to mention destroy the legacy of UO.
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8/25/12 10:07:42 AM#52
I'd want to see what they have in mind before I could decide if it's actually "UO" redone. I'd be very interested if it were in fact that, but I really don't have faith in EA or the rest of this industrial "gamey" fraternity of controlled "fun".
Once upon a time.... |
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8/25/12 10:25:57 AM#53
I feel I strongly need to chime in here with my two bits. [1] I blame EA, squarely for the downfall and cancellation of numerous games/mmos. Once you add EA into the structure of an MMO it doesn't matter how PASSIONATE a dev team is, they are mid level employees... meaning some jackhole in the top tier who golfs and has never played an MMO makes the final decisions.
[2] Mythic has and still has a ton of passion.. the only difference is they weren't inhibited by EA early on to let their passion shine through in their game development. It doesn't matter how much a dev or that annoying british sounding guy spouts his damn mouth, it only gets so far in the structure. The structure says the masses like dumbed down farm-fest crap, therefore you will get dumbed down farm-fest crap.
[3] Even if Richard Garriot joined the ranks it would only get so far. You need the people with the ideas and the drive for creativity at the top of the pyramid, not in the middle.
[4] If you genuinely ask people who still play UO if they want a UO2. Most say no simply because they have 10+ years into their characters. What they want is an upgraded graphics system, better UI and a few new trinkets to match. I know they came out with kingdom reborn but that wasn't near an upgrade.
[5] We need to put up a fund to make a new project where garriott directs it. We can call it Ultrama Online. |
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8/25/12 10:27:31 AM#54
EA/Mythic/Bioware needs to FOADIAF
Tried: EQ2 - AC - EU - HZ - TR - MxO - TTO - WURM - SL - VG:SoH - PotBS - PS - AoC - WAR - DDO - SWTOR |
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8/25/12 10:34:10 AM#55
TOA marked Author's turn for the worst.
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8/25/12 10:47:47 AM#56
After dealing with their last two MMORPGs, NO... Their team simply lacks the talent and vision to create it. Have you ever listened to them describe how games should be put together in modern times? Their UO would be another generic, lifeless, combat grind oriented themepark with a PVP battleground, too many voice overs, worthless crafting, and no end game. I have utterly no confidence in them to do UO based on what they do and say. I take no pleasure in writing that either.
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TruthXHurts
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Joined: 6/20/10
I am here to chew bubblegum and to kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum! |
8/25/12 10:51:37 AM#57
Originally posted by Loktofeit Two more thumbs up. Way up where the sun don't shine Mythic! "I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!" |
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8/25/12 10:53:44 AM#58
my response to Mythic and EA :
Fuck you. |
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8/25/12 10:57:44 AM#59
Originally posted by Psychow So right here, I know that no game will ever live up to your standards, and now I understand exactly why you would desire to stifle a new creative project sight unseen. You're afraid that even with the best and brightest behind the game, it won't be an MMO that you'll want to play. Here's why I would support this being created:
"Criticism is an indirect form of self-boasting." - Emmet Fox |
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8/25/12 11:03:50 AM#60
Originally posted by rygard49 Yes cause fucking up Warhammer makes not as important as fucking up another game. Warhammer Online had everything it needed to be a stellar game, but instead of doing it Mythic's way , they decided to half ass it and get in bed with EA cause they (mythic) dont have the passion or desire to make truely independent games free from big corporate vices.
Ok Mythix you want be the ones to make UO 2, get off of EA's npple and create a new studio and makke an ultima-esque game. If you dont have the passion to do that then shut the fuck up about making any games ever again. DSp dicck of these fucking developers who consistantly arent even the original creaors of the name Mythic, Bioware, and pretendingh they are the gods of mmo industry,
EA, Mythic, Bioware, go fuck youself. |
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