Originally posted by ZekkCC
Alright.  Choose a month/date, people.  

The "masses"? When it shuts down.

The very vocal minority? Well you've already made up your mind have you not?

Originally posted by Psychow

Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Originally posted by ariboersma
DAMMIT "this post has already been reported" that was fast :(

Well, sadly one has to report things like this, but in general i feel sorry for people posting things like this, what in earth can have made people negative like that?

 

I know! Just like this guy! 

 

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/404/view/forums/thread/357043/Why-did-you-quit-this-game.html

 Glad I'm not the only one that found the irony in his post.

it's only a matter of days until people will discover this game is not the second coming.

Anyone remembering the TOR hype...? It's sad when reality hits one month after release. It won't be anything different with Gw2, except it's already gone F2P, not 9 months after release like TOR

Originally posted by Misaris

it's only a matter of days until people will discover this game is not the second coming.

Anyone remembering the TOR hype...? It's sad when reality hits one month after release. It won't be anything different with Gw2, except it's already gone F2P, not 9 months after release like TOR

 Can't say I agree that it will go the same route as TOR. This game is designed a lot better than TOR was in several areas.

There will be some that will eventually be let down though. Some simply built unrealistic expectations for the game and some others here do the same song dance with every mmo that comes down the pipe.

truth be told, it will never fail, just as GW1 hasn't. why? because it doesn't have a sub.

You buy the game, if you're satisfied...win, no fail.

Down the road there will be expansions we will buy, maybe you can make a case then. For now, pretty much everyone playing has bought the game and are satisfied, there is no sub to keep asking the question.

Originally posted by TruthXHurts

Why not? I'm tired of Fantasy. Where are the good sci fi games at? If I see one more Elf or Gnome I'm gonna puke up my Lucky Charms. I don't doubt GW2 is a good gmae, but my god man get off the fantasy kick. It's been almost 20 years. Can we please get some decent variations in the genre?

er... the genre was born of Dungeons and Dragons, with a smidgen of ShadowRun and WarCraft.  The genre will always be fantasy RPG based in everything it does.

To be honest we have sci-fi games, we have superhero games, we have war games.. we actually have a tremendous amount of other-than-fantasy mmos currently, but they are all niche games at best.

2 of the last 3 major games released were sci-fi, but the numbers supporting those type of games don't equate nor represent anything long lasting, as that crowd will always find a better game to their liking in the FPS market (minus EVE, who holds the majority of that true mmo populace). You also have PS2 and DayZ on the horizon, 20 years? really?

Originally posted by Misaris

it's only a matter of days until people will discover this game is not the second coming.

Anyone remembering the TOR hype...? It's sad when reality hits one month after release. It won't be anything different with Gw2, except it's already gone F2P, not 9 months after release like TOR

the Tor hype was actually built on misinformation from the Devs interviews themselves actually whereas Anet has kept people in the know and revealed just about everything. (not the island of Orr sadly) but everything else. And the devs aren't sitting around telling us that we'll be doing things we've never done before EVAR or that the combat is so awesome the game will make us poop light sabers which pretty much sums up the interviews I've seen prelaunch of TOR of the head of their dev team.

So there IS a huge difference there. oversimplifying things really doesn't help your case much.

Originally posted by Wolvards

Originally posted by ZekkCC
Alright.  Choose a month/date, people.  

The "masses"? When it shuts down.

The very vocal minority? Well you've already made up your mind have you not?

Originally posted by Rommie10-284
We usually know in three months how things are going long-term for these games - so December.  If things are looking great for Xmas time, they're doing fine.

Nah, in december the people who are against the game will say "b-b-b-but, no.. .april this time I promise".

Then they'll keep moving the date back.

Originally posted by ZekkCC
Alright.  Choose a month/date, people.  

Uh, about six months ago?

Oh, "the masses" means someone besides our already resident Prophets of Doom? 

Wouldn't it be maybe actually worthwhile to address the sub-groups of gamerdom who almost certainly would not be happy with a purchase?  Warn them off?

Originally posted by Horusra
Why would this one be locked based on the primise.  People here flood the Wow threads with doom and gloom and GW2 fanbois seem to attack every other game in their forums.  If GW2 can not take people's negativity then the game truely is doomed.

It's clear and present baiting that's why it should be locked. If they went and locked every GW2 bait thread as fast as they did TOR threads that were well thought out and had evidence to back up the claims of the posters when TOR was launching, this thread would have had 1 reply before locking and the OP being banned for life.

Originally posted by itgrowls

Originally posted by Horusra
Why would this one be locked based on the primise.  People here flood the Wow threads with doom and gloom and GW2 fanbois seem to attack every other game in their forums.  If GW2 can not take people's negativity then the game truely is doomed.

It's clear and present baiting that's why it should be locked. If they went and locked every GW2 bait thread as fast as they did TOR threads that were well thought out and had evidence to back up the claims of the posters when TOR was launching, this thread would have had 1 reply before locking and the OP being banned for life.

 First of all they left plenty of threads stating SWTOR was going to fail opened. However, I will agree that usually if it was something as generic and obvious bait material as this topic it did normally get locked. Many of the type you mentioned were left open much to the chagrin of the fans of the game. Some I agreed with others I didn't. Not sure why this one is being left open considering how vapid it is..

...and they rarely ban an account completely. You have to do something pretty heinous to get that. I should know seeing how they've been banning me about once a week now for...quite some time.

Originally posted by itgrowls

Originally posted by Horusra
Why would this one be locked based on the primise.  People here flood the Wow threads with doom and gloom and GW2 fanbois seem to attack every other game in their forums.  If GW2 can not take people's negativity then the game truely is doomed.

It's clear and present baiting that's why it should be locked. If they went and locked every GW2 bait thread as fast as they did TOR threads that were well thought out and had evidence to back up the claims of the posters when TOR was launching, this thread would have had 1 reply before locking and the OP being banned for life.

 Baiting...what about evey GW2 is the next greatest game on earth and your *insert game* sucks compaired to it...post and thread created that does not get removed.  Frankly compaired to GW2 fans treatment/invasion of other game forums to add nothing but a comment of how GW2 is supposedly better that never get locked or deleted it is called fair play ribbing or a factual comment on the fact that GW2 is just not that good as people think.

well the masses will likely play this game for a few months then move on, so i am guessing a few months?

i don't see any game having longevity ever again, at least until a game is released that is so far and away above everything else that nobody will want to play anything else.

i see GW2 as a good game but not that good of a game. believe me i hope i am wrong but i just don't see most people staying interested for more than a few months.

that said, i wont consider it a failure if that happens. if the longevity of a game determines if said game is a failure or not, all games are destined for failure.

the days of playing the same game for years are over, at least these new "theme park" type games.

people just eat up all the content then get bored and there isn't usually a decent community to keep them together.

maybe if GW2's community is good it will help but just the way the game is with the solo mentality, i kind of doubt it.

we will see, cant wait to finally make my character!