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  Reas43

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Posts: 308

8/22/12 7:11:22 PM#21

TERA came in one day and drank all my beer, sat in my couch, punched my dog then stole my checkbook. I've been working for months to get those check numbers eliminated from my bank account and my dog has been having the sniffles ever since then.

 

I'm going with the rest of my compatriots up above to where their signatures say they'll be going to becuase I'm going to give TERA its due. Haleluya. Find me live in the chat channels this coming Saturday.

 

AMEN

 

 

  Trudge34

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8/22/12 10:43:41 PM#22

Gotta say...I followed TERA from sometime in early October till launch, preordered and subbed for a few months. The combat was really fun along with the dungeons...yet it just wore off after a bit. Think I got to level 48 before all the recycled mobs and areas started to get to me along with the quests. Was a sad day unsubbing for me to be honest. I was really excited about the game after beta testing and everything, didn't get much work done during the launch due to browsing the forums...

Think the #TERAEffect...as lame as what I've heard the MMOFO campaign was, came from some of the forum posters. If they were planted or true, I don't know, but I remember quite a few after the beta tests in April saying that after experiencing the combat they couldn't go back to the normal tab targetting. So...not everything is coming from the hype of GW2...

Played: EQ1 (10 Years), Guild Wars, Rift, TERA
Tried: EQ2, Vanguard, Lord of the Rings Online, Dungeons and Dragons Online, Runes of Magic and countless others...
Currently Playing: GW2

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  Eir_S

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GW2 socialist.

8/22/12 10:46:19 PM#23
Originally posted by illyana

 


Originally posted by coretex666
Click the ad and you will "Learn more". :D

 

 Obviously, it is just a buzz word they use in the marketing campaign. Why did you post it here instead of Tera forum btw?


 

because GW2 followers have been using "GW2 Effect" to describe the lack of motivation to play other MMOs after playing in GW2 betas, and the withdrawal feelings when the betas end. and then we find TERA's marketing people using something similar to describe the same feeling towards their own game.

HOW ORIGINAL!

  gaeanprayer

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8/22/12 10:46:48 PM#24
TERAEFFECT = A reminder that graphics =/= fun.

"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."

  RebelScum99

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8/22/12 10:48:38 PM#25
Originally posted by ariboersma
Originally posted by xposeidon
The Tera effect is supposedly when people claim that they can't go back to other MMOs because of the unique "Combat System" Tera has. Though I'm not sure how this #TeraEffect came about since I never heard it before in the game or the forums.

especially since the combat in Tera SUCKS! animation lock + not all classes being able to dodge + space bar spam = no fun!

I'll take animation lock any day over the combat system that GW2 has.  One of the worst combat systems I've had the misfortune of playing.  

  Eir_S

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GW2 socialist.

8/22/12 10:51:23 PM#26
Originally posted by RebelScum99
Originally posted by ariboersma
Originally posted by xposeidon
The Tera effect is supposedly when people claim that they can't go back to other MMOs because of the unique "Combat System" Tera has. Though I'm not sure how this #TeraEffect came about since I never heard it before in the game or the forums.

especially since the combat in Tera SUCKS! animation lock + not all classes being able to dodge + space bar spam = no fun!

I'll take animation lock any day over the combat system that GW2 has.  One of the worst combat systems I've had the misfortune of playing.  

Got killed a lot huh?  It happens.

  azmundai

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Posts: 1421

8/22/12 10:52:03 PM#27

the #TERAEFFECT was a lot like a hangover for me. pretty cool for a while, and then exceptionally sickining afterwards.

LFD tools are great for cramming people into content, but quality > quantity.
I am, usually on the sandbox .. more "hardcore" side of things, but I also do just want to have fun. So lighten up already :)

  nahtanoz

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Joined: 8/23/12
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8/23/12 4:40:34 AM#28
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by RebelScum99
Originally posted by ariboersma
Originally posted by xposeidon
The Tera effect is supposedly when people claim that they can't go back to other MMOs because of the unique "Combat System" Tera has. Though I'm not sure how this #TeraEffect came about since I never heard it before in the game or the forums.

especially since the combat in Tera SUCKS! animation lock + not all classes being able to dodge + space bar spam = no fun!

I'll take animation lock any day over the combat system that GW2 has.  One of the worst combat systems I've had the misfortune of playing.  

Got killed a lot huh?  It happens.

tera combat is really much better than gw2.

none of the events feel rewarding (lol zergfest, ok similar to nexus but that's one event at the end, but nexus is a great time for huge GvG battles like 50v50 or multi-guild wars) like tera boss fights (i guess if you're uber good, tera HMs) or BAM solos do, dodge mechanic is iffy.

gw2 combat is spammy outside of 1v1s in pvp with two people who truly understand all class/weapon combo mechanics, which is great and amazing to watch and know is possible, but finding 1v1s doesn't happen THAT often sadly because numbers are just too big of an advantage that you just don't want to run around by yourself

this is a huge contrast to tera, where it's entirely possible to outplay multiple people because of the aiming required in abilities/dodge+escape mechanics (although there are a few lock on abilities). and outside of glaring 1v1 counters (lol healers), tera is largely based on individual skill. a good (insert class) will TEAR apart a bad player and probably decent player, even if they play a supposedly terrible dueling class (lol berserker)

there's a reason to the animation lock, it presents a risk and punishes players for spamming abilities with no regard to what the monster is doing. want to swing your axe? look at the monster to make sure he's not raising his tail or claw or head, etc. oh you're a warrior? you should know that you can cancel your animation for this certain attack by dodging, so attack now and dodge in 1.6 seconds when the monster follows through with his attack

all classes have an escape, maybe not an invulnerable frame dodge, but they do have escapes and other tools to make up for it (like being ranged, having snares/immobs, etc)

not sure what the spacebar spam is about

tera has a lot of mmo downsides, no doubt about it. it's incredibly grindy (although i loved the combat system so much it didn't bother me, but i know this is definitely a valid knock against tera), and the quests and story leave a lot to be desired. but it's combat system is definitely top notch in the realm of mmos

 

dying in tera happens because you couldn't read the monster's cues

dying in gw2 happens because you were exploring and stumbled on monsters that were grossly over your level

i didn't get to try any gw2 dungeons, so i'm looking forward to them and i wouldn't be surprised if they were challenging, but i really can't see how they would be as hard as tera dungeons

  miguksaram

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8/23/12 4:55:38 AM#29
Originally posted by Volkon

What's with that ad I see on the top of this page... what is the #Teraeffect? Sounds like a cheap attempt to copy the GW2 effect we've all been talking about since BWE1 and before.

 

What are they claiming this "tera effect" is, and is it comparable?

Plain and simple, advertising!  Any company worth their "salt" will do what they can to try and bring new customers in a constrained environment.

  Eir_S

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Posts: 4525

GW2 socialist.

8/23/12 4:57:38 AM#30
Originally posted by nahtanoz

tera combat is really much better than gw2.

Nice to see someone so objective... and your first post too?  Aww.  Welcome to the forums.

But really, your post would mean a lot more if I hadn't been the victor in more than one 1 v x.  I defeated 3 other players in GW2 in WvW simultaneously.  Your little examples are cute and all, but they aren't true of everyone.

Anyway, this thread is not about combat, it's about Tera's sad marketing dept.

  kDeviL

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Joined: 3/07/12
Posts: 236

8/23/12 4:58:51 AM#31
lol'd pretty hard when I saw it too.  Please enmasse, tell me the tera-effect.

If WoW was released today even in its' entirety it would be f2p in 3 months.
Why is it still such a big deal?

  otacu

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Joined: 4/08/12
Posts: 544

8/23/12 5:19:24 AM#32

I saw this on the official forums and i guess it's pretty much accurate of the #teraeffect

 

 


 

"The way I see it, TERA is almost like an experiment conducted to test certain hypotheses regarding MMOs. What Bluehole made was an MMO with near-perfect combat and graphics, since those are commonly considered to be the most important things about any game including and especially MMOs, but they cleverly made everything else absolute [filtered] just to demonstrate how important other aspects of game design were. Even combat, the backbone of every MMO, means nothing when it's served to us in the most boring, [filtered]tiest quest grind ever and there's nothing new at the end of the road. Just a few minigames like fishing or pets would have made the game that much better. With this, TERA showed the rest of the MMO world how important the small things are."

 


 

 

 

Originally posted by Reas43
LOL. Remember yesterday's thread where people in the GW2 forums wailed at being victimized by people coming into their boards to talk smack smack? Yeah. There you go.
Calm down this was a thread started in the Gw2 section and then moved here by the mods

 

  Reas43

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8/23/12 6:37:44 AM#33
Originally posted by Volkon
Hmm... my apologies to the local Terapins, this was intended to stay in the GW2 forums where the term "GW2 Effect" originated so many months ago.

You're missing the whole point of what that thread was about. 

The thread started with the whole "I think the criticism is fake. . . and misguided" in regards to people disagreeing about GW2's sublime perfection in their discussions, which then eveolved into how GW2 fans were simply enthusiastic fans who were misrepresented by a few bad apples.  That it was other games' ffans who would talk smack about gw2.  Now that went beyond being specifically in their forums to the generality of GW2 fans are only fans who are enthusiastic, they dont go about putting down other games, they simply love theirs and can't understand why people cannot l;eave in peace and simply ignore the games they don't like.  It was then pointed out that GW2 fans had in fact been guilty of that behavior all along and from the start.  Several asked for exmples.

This is one.

My point to that is, we are supposed to be a community of gamers, mostly interested in MMOs.  If you look at teh number of titles in this site you'll see there are a huge number of them, weighted in differrent ways for different tastes. It's beyond self -defeating to try to undermine the fanbase of other games in some weird our team must win mentality, because the more games and the more variety the more evryone wins.

 

Few can debate TERA has a really engaging combat style that works in its MMO setting and wish other games used it. Same for graphics.  People in GW2 swear by their systems (I will be playing them myself and making my own mind - as I did with TERA when it launched). Few can argue that the VO professional work and camera angles in player interactions in SWTOR are far more professinoals than their counterpart in GW2 (unless the quality of VO has changed since the betas and the character posing during verbal interactions have changed - it looked like a school play.)

It is to all gamers benefits that all games see a modicum of enough success so future products see a benefit of another while developing new ones. This thread is yet another indication on how some gw2 fans are not interested in that.  How only their cult should be on top and represents perfection (when it clearly does not).  It doesn't matter if its in your forums or the tera ones, this irony in form of a thread simply demonstrates the truth behind the arguments of how gw2 fans are the biggest force behind trash talking other games whether in their forums or any other.  Many gamers trash talk other games, sadly, pretty childish and like I said self defeating.  But the GW2 machine stands on its own class and the days befiore yesterday they insisted that was not the case, that they were being victimized.

 

Well, here's the victim caught red handed.

  Icewhite

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8/23/12 7:40:16 AM#34
Originally posted by illyana

because GW2 followers have been using "GW2 Effect" to describe the lack of motivation to play other MMOs after playing in GW2 betas

You seem to be supplying confirmation of viral marketing?  Or I guess marketing marketing, in this case.

Banners and email blasts, pretty trivial stuff, but hey--it's keeping a graphic artist gainfully employed, so two thumbs up!

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  xposeidon

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8/23/12 7:50:02 AM#35
Originally posted by Reas43
Originally posted by Volkon
Hmm... my apologies to the local Terapins, this was intended to stay in the GW2 forums where the term "GW2 Effect" originated so many months ago.

You're missing the whole point of what that thread was about. 

The thread started with the whole "I think the criticism is fake. . . and misguided" in regards to people disagreeing about GW2's sublime perfection in their discussions, which then eveolved into how GW2 fans were simply enthusiastic fans who were misrepresented by a few bad apples.  That it was other games' ffans who would talk smack about gw2.  Now that went beyond being specifically in their forums to the generality of GW2 fans are only fans who are enthusiastic, they dont go about putting down other games, they simply love theirs and can't understand why people cannot l;eave in peace and simply ignore the games they don't like.  It was then pointed out that GW2 fans had in fact been guilty of that behavior all along and from the start.  Several asked for exmples.

This is one.

My point to that is, we are supposed to be a community of gamers, mostly interested in MMOs.  If you look at teh number of titles in this site you'll see there are a huge number of them, weighted in differrent ways for different tastes. It's beyond self -defeating to try to undermine the fanbase of other games in some weird our team must win mentality, because the more games and the more variety the more evryone wins.

 

Few can debate TERA has a really engaging combat style that works in its MMO setting and wish other games used it. Same for graphics.  People in GW2 swear by their systems (I will be playing them myself and making my own mind - as I did with TERA when it launched). Few can argue that the VO professional work and camera angles in player interactions in SWTOR are far more professinoals than their counterpart in GW2 (unless the quality of VO has changed since the betas and the character posing during verbal interactions have changed - it looked like a school play.)

It is to all gamers benefits that all games see a modicum of enough success so future products see a benefit of another while developing new ones. This thread is yet another indication on how some gw2 fans are not interested in that.  How only their cult should be on top and represents perfection (when it clearly does not).  It doesn't matter if its in your forums or the tera ones, this irony in form of a thread simply demonstrates the truth behind the arguments of how gw2 fans are the biggest force behind trash talking other games whether in their forums or any other.  Many gamers trash talk other games, sadly, pretty childish and like I said self defeating.  But the GW2 machine stands on its own class and the days befiore yesterday they insisted that was not the case, that they were being victimized.

 

Well, here's the victim caught red handed.

Well I'm not here to defend GW2 fans, but during the time I played Tera, I had the opportunity to witness a very nasty and mouthy community that bashed GW2 daily also. But then again I read a post how GW2 fans bash Tera in the game itself now? So I guess a lot of GW2 players are Tera players also, but then that doesn't make sense because why would they bash their own game? Frankly it's all quite confusing now but one thing I know for sure, I won't agree one community is worse than the other.

Remember... all I'm offering is the truth. Nothing more.

  keirion

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8/23/12 8:40:40 AM#36

MODS: Would you please return this thread to the GW2 forum? I almost recreated it there because it was not there.

This thread is not about TERA at all. It is about the advertising company for one game taking and mmorpg.com community created label for a phenomenon many, many people experienced after playing GW2 betas and using it as advertising for their game. It is GW2 players/forumgoers who will recognize this ad and laugh at it copying their community. TERA forumgoers will not necessarily get it and having it in this forum destroys the discussion and encourages bashing between players of the two games.

 

Thanks

-Keirion

  dumpcat

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8/23/12 10:45:07 AM#37
Does en masse ever use their own ideas? Even though the GW2 Effect was coined by fans they sure seem to like ripping from anything with NC Soft ties.
  otacu

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8/23/12 12:33:14 PM#38
Originally posted by dumpcat
Does en masse ever use their own ideas? Even though the GW2 Effect was coined by fans they sure seem to like ripping from anything with NC Soft ties.

Well played :)

  AmbrosiaAmor

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8/25/12 12:48:43 PM#39

I thought it was a little silly that they used something so similar that Guild Wars used recently. I didn't mind it at all, but what shocked me was the following:

It seems that you are no longer allowed to post Guild Wars 2 related stuff on the OFF-TOPIC sub forums

EDIT: Since yesterday

 

They released 2 official statements:

I. People are advertising/advocating other commercial products that is non-TERA and non-En Masse Entertainment. This is also dividing our community which is also not what we'd like to see.

and

II. Against Forum Regulations - Any promotion of non-En Masse Entertainment, non-TERA commercial ventures.

Locking.

 

It seems it was dividing the community in the off topic section.

Now this floored me.

  Reas43

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8/27/12 11:02:45 AM#40
Originally posted by AmbrosiaAmor

I thought it was a little silly that they used something so similar that Guild Wars used recently. I didn't mind it at all, but what shocked me was the following:

It seems that you are no longer allowed to post Guild Wars 2 related stuff on the OFF-TOPIC sub forums

EDIT: Since yesterday

 

They released 2 official statements:

I. People are advertising/advocating other commercial products that is non-TERA and non-En Masse Entertainment. This is also dividing our community which is also not what we'd like to see.

and

II. Against Forum Regulations - Any promotion of non-En Masse Entertainment, non-TERA commercial ventures.

Locking.

 

It seems it was dividing the community in the off topic section.

Now this floored me.

 

Way to selectively quote an official post to make it fit your agenda Ambrosia. Wonder why you keep lingering on forums of game's you dont care for.

 

THIS is the quote in it's entirety:

 

"#80 08/24/2012, 11:17 PM We try to keep constructive threads open so that people can post their opinions. But I do think going at such lengths such as this is too far and whether it is intended or not, the impression is that people are advertising/advocating other commercial products that is non-TERA and non-En Masse Entertainment. This is also dividing our community which is also not what we'd like to see. Please restrain yourselves and be respectful, folks. Remember, this is the Official TERA Forums and its sole existence is for TERA's community and all of its rules need to be met."

 

The thread in question had been allowed to fester for a full month before the mod locked it. It was a promotional post from a known GW2 fan that admitted to no longer play TERA and would just make long advertisements for GW. He had no business there. Off topic or otherwise.

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