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  Wolfenbr

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Joined: 6/05/12
Posts: 34

8/22/12 12:06:26 AM#121
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Wolfenbr
Originally posted by petespri

Posted today:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/bill-freist-talks-optimization-and-performance/

According to their chart, it takes an I5 CPU and a 8800GT to pull 30-35  FPS.

Faq says minimum requirements: core2duo 2.0ghz and 7800.

Humm...

depends on settings.. the chart is auto detect so not telling what the graphical settings are.. the min specs assume min settings

True, but do you honestly think that if an i5 and 8800 barely pulls 30+ FPS (even on autodetect), a core2duo + 7800 can keep 30+ FPS?

If you read the oficial forums during the last few stress tests then you know performance is bellow expected. I really hope during release the developers will remove some kind of debug code from the client and FPS will jump but now i'm not so sure anymore and that article didn't help.

Only complaint about the game tho, and not really a problem if you have an I5 or better (which most people do i believe) everything else in the game is great!

 

 

 

  Aerowyn

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Joined: 2/20/12
Posts: 7969

8/22/12 12:12:11 AM#122
Originally posted by Wolfenbr
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Wolfenbr
Originally posted by petespri

Posted today:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/bill-freist-talks-optimization-and-performance/

According to their chart, it takes an I5 CPU and a 8800GT to pull 30-35  FPS.

Faq says minimum requirements: core2duo 2.0ghz and 7800.

Humm...

depends on settings.. the chart is auto detect so not telling what the graphical settings are.. the min specs assume min settings

True, but do you honestly think that if an i5 and 8800 barely pulls 30+ FPS (even on autodetect), a core2duo + 7800 can keep 30+ FPS?

If you read the oficial forums during the last few stress tests then you know performance is bellow expected. I really hope during release the developers will remove some kind of debug code from the client and FPS will jump but now i'm not so sure anymore and that article didn't help.

Only complaint about the game tho, and not really a problem if you have an I5 or better (which most people do i believe) everything else in the game is great!

 

 

 

ive seen some people with some pretty old systems say they are getting playable framerates so don't think its much of a concern.. but honestly I wouldn't  expect to play a new gen PC game with 6+ year old hardware... I could put together a system for $500 that could play this game just fine.. pc gaming is definatly not the cheapest hobby for gaming though

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  Stx11

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Joined: 11/28/09
Posts: 420

8/22/12 12:16:38 AM#123
Originally posted by Aerowyn

ive seen some people with some pretty old systems say they are getting playable framerates so don't think its much of a concern.. but honestly I wouldn't  expect to play a new gen PC game with 6+ year old hardware... I could put together a system for $500 that could play this game just fine.. pc gaming is definatly not the cheapest hobby for gaming though

I was on a really old AMD dual-core 2.3 with my GTS 450 and 4GB RAM and was able to play on minimum settings just fine in BWE1...

(the i5 3750 with 8GB RAM I have now is much nicer though - max Ultra everything with no lag... soooo nice)

  Wolfenbr

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Joined: 6/05/12
Posts: 34

8/22/12 12:30:43 AM#124
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Wolfenbr
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Wolfenbr
Originally posted by petespri

Posted today:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/bill-freist-talks-optimization-and-performance/

According to their chart, it takes an I5 CPU and a 8800GT to pull 30-35  FPS.

Faq says minimum requirements: core2duo 2.0ghz and 7800.

Humm...

depends on settings.. the chart is auto detect so not telling what the graphical settings are.. the min specs assume min settings

True, but do you honestly think that if an i5 and 8800 barely pulls 30+ FPS (even on autodetect), a core2duo + 7800 can keep 30+ FPS?

If you read the oficial forums during the last few stress tests then you know performance is bellow expected. I really hope during release the developers will remove some kind of debug code from the client and FPS will jump but now i'm not so sure anymore and that article didn't help.

Only complaint about the game tho, and not really a problem if you have an I5 or better (which most people do i believe) everything else in the game is great!

 

 

 

ive seen some people with some pretty old systems say they are getting playable framerates so don't think its much of a concern.. but honestly I wouldn't  expect to play a new gen PC game with 6+ year old hardware... I could put together a system for $500 that could play this game just fine.. pc gaming is definatly not the cheapest hobby for gaming though

Again, true, but my point is, game isn't playable with the min requirements right now. My problem is that this article and the  many FPS complaints i saw on the oficial forums of today's stress test indicate to me that they probably won't get it right by release.

Also, given the current state of the beta client today, the pc required to play it is affordable yes (by most) but they are also higher than other mmo's i've seen this year and most other single player games too. 

Performance is an important issue and people shouldn't dismiss however great this game is.

 

  Tokken

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Posts: 943

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8/22/12 1:29:38 AM#125
Pretty smooth for me. No log in issues, no bugs. Even the disappearing landscape in the past did not happen at all. I think there was something wrong with the mail though, got multiple e-mails on the same thing.

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  HorrorScope

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8/22/12 1:33:03 AM#126
Originally posted by petespri

Posted today:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/bill-freist-talks-optimization-and-performance/

 

There goes the old addage... "Update your video card drivers to the latest." By doing so you are taking it in the shorts.

The safest version should be the version they developed the game on. Or so Spock and his logic says.

  JJOneway

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Joined: 12/09/09
Posts: 112

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8/22/12 2:00:21 AM#127

Funnily enough I spent most of yesterday at work stress testing our new Exchange server with some "lucky"test clients from my office. We went hell for leather to break every function we could think of to see how it affected the end user and to know exactly what server side issues had what affect on clients.

That's what stress testing is, it's supposed to break stuff. Yeah, my GW2 was buggy as hell last night, but to think this is indicative of a late or bug-ridden launch is doomsaying for the sake of it.

  achesoma

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Joined: 5/05/05
Posts: 960

8/22/12 2:10:43 AM#128
I must be lucky.  I have yet to have any significant performance issues in all the BWEs and stress tests.  Only thing that comes to mind was the 10 min or so of rubber-banding in one of the previous STs.  It's kind of odd because normally everything that can go buggy in MMOs almost always happens to me.  Granted I've done very little WvW.  It's been all pve and spvp for me. 

  slicknslim88

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Joined: 8/08/11
Posts: 400

8/22/12 2:31:57 AM#129
I think the OP is looking at these bugs in the wrong way.  The more bugs during the stress test the better.  The more bugs during the stress test, the less bugs we have to worry about during launch.  Be thankful for bugs during stress tests.
  sargey123

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Joined: 7/23/12
Posts: 104

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8/22/12 2:37:32 AM#130
Yea it was bit buggy like it supposed to be :) still killed me when U used 2nd skill of the thief double daggers everyone on the map will disapper and it teleported me to the place I came from the first time lol ! well cant wait to play the game soon :))
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  Valua

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Joined: 8/08/11
Posts: 521

8/22/12 7:21:34 AM#131
Originally posted by Epic1oots
Originally posted by Valua
Originally posted by reignjuste

what botehers me with this game is that it has bad fps issues and it does not feel responsive.

 

If it's one big thing that made wow so successful is it responsiveness.No response the game feels dull and crap

Hope they fix it otherwise this game is gonna end to the garbage

No1 thing that makes the game a success is the perferct response of your actions

 

FPS is fine for me. 

But the character responsiveness is nowhere near as perfect as WoW's.

And when my character moves there is a lot of sliding.

Both annoy me, and will probably stop me from playing eventually, but I have faith that ArenaNet will fix this post-launch and before my frustration gets the better of me.

WoW was horrible at launch, did you play at launch?

I did play WoW at launch.

Butt sadly times have changed.

WoW was very bad at launch, but people got over it, and stuck with it.

Nowadays if a game is buggy/unresponsive/laggy at launch they stop playing and call it a fail.

There's so many other games to play right now that players do have the option to get annoyed and leave the game, when WoW was released there were very few other options.

This is just something developers have to accept when creating an MMO.

 

 

So my point is, your argument is invalid, it might have been valid a few years ago, but not today sadly.

  Fdzzaigl

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Joined: 8/22/09
Posts: 2160

8/22/12 7:24:13 AM#132

It was quite buggy yeah:

1) Heart of the mists was crashing me 100% of the time when I tried to get in there.

2) Lots of people disappearing.

3) Guildmate was getting teleported and even killed by using the Warrior's F1 ability.

4) General crashing.

Feel free to use my referral link for SW:TOR if you want to test out the game. You'll get some special unlocks!

  Macecard

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Joined: 2/03/10
Posts: 146

8/22/12 7:46:00 AM#133
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by reignjuste

what botehers me with this game is that it has bad fps issues and it does not feel responsive.

 

If it's one big thing that made wow so successful is it responsiveness.No response the game feels dull and crap

Hope they fix it otherwise this game is gonna end to the garbage

No1 thing that makes the game a success is the perferct response of your actions

We will be actively working on the game during the event, so you might experience connectivity problems or discover features that are not working as designed.

Any issues you experience are a result of the rigorous conditions of the stress test, and are in no way representative of the state of the game at launch.

By participating in this stress test, you’re helping us make Guild Wars 2 a better game. Thanks for your cooperation—we’ll see you in-game!

Edit: I forgot to hi-light the important parts of their statement.

Reading appears to be a secondary skill to most mmo trolls, i mean players. This statement proves nothing since they can't read it or have now rea dit but have so far been so stuck to their opinion of stress test issues = launch issues that they won't go back on it no matter what anyone says. I'd give up and leave them to the pointless assessment of a game during a stress test.

If you continue to make sweeping statements like you know what everyone everywhere thinks about a certain topic then I am going to shout at you.
It easy to type 'I think this is the worst game ever'
Rather than the 'This is the worst game ever'

  Mothanos

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Joined: 10/20/10
Posts: 1885

8/22/12 8:09:58 AM#134

There will be no mmo launcher bug free.
No mmo will ever BE bug free
Fixing problem A creates problem B and C and D

Guildwars 2 will be no diffrent, there will be buggs, alot of buggs, question is will there be gamebreaking buggs ? looking at the latest stress test i notice quite some buggs with rangers / warriors and Elementalist.
But i bet these will be hotfixed before launch.


Remember we are playing with Beta builds to search for buggs not playing for fun and expecting a 5 year developed polished up product.

  scotty899

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Joined: 1/01/06
Posts: 173

8/22/12 8:15:06 AM#135

hope all these bugs yas are filling these forums up with, were reported during your stress test so they get some of them fixed prior to launch :P

 

:D

  Sixpax

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Joined: 7/28/05
Posts: 602

8/22/12 8:56:52 AM#136
Originally posted by Wolfenbr
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Wolfenbr
Originally posted by petespri

Posted today:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/bill-freist-talks-optimization-and-performance/

According to their chart, it takes an I5 CPU and a 8800GT to pull 30-35  FPS.

Faq says minimum requirements: core2duo 2.0ghz and 7800.

Humm...

depends on settings.. the chart is auto detect so not telling what the graphical settings are.. the min specs assume min settings

True, but do you honestly think that if an i5 and 8800 barely pulls 30+ FPS (even on autodetect), a core2duo + 7800 can keep 30+ FPS?

If you read the oficial forums during the last few stress tests then you know performance is bellow expected. I really hope during release the developers will remove some kind of debug code from the client and FPS will jump but now i'm not so sure anymore and that article didn't help.

Only complaint about the game tho, and not really a problem if you have an I5 or better (which most people do i believe) everything else in the game is great!

 

 

 

My wife has a core2duo, 4Gig memory, and 8800GT vid card.  Last night I had her put graphic settings on Best Appearence, but turned off AA and put reflections to sky+terrain only.  Her FPS was 35 on average just running around doing low level PvE stuff.  She didn't get any video stuttering even during crowded DE's (we didn't do any WvWvW though).

Edit: she's also running the 301.42 video driver that Anet listed with the performance issue (waiting for the new beta one to be approved for release by Nvidia).

MMO games would be pretty cool if it weren't for the people.

  Thane

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Posts: 1962

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8/22/12 9:12:21 AM#137
Originally posted by stragen001

Im amazed. ANet have been doing so well so far, but this stress test is the buggiest by far.

The problems I have experienced that WERENT there on previous tests are:

1) leap/movement abilites all bugged. Eviscerate causes all players/mobs/npcs to disappear until you move then they reappear, savage leap causes instant death. Other movement abilites such as the ranger sword 2(cant remember name) teleport you all over the map

2) no indicator for party members on map, even when you are standing next to one another. 

3) groups are no longer kept together when going to overflow servers

4) wierd bugs in WvW where you get killed on teleporting into the zone by random NPC invaders, but if you move they disappear

5) Email authentication bug. System keeps asking you to authenticate you email even after you have already done so

6) Forums and account page down

 

Come on ANet, get it together. The previous stress tests were flawless! I blame the Spanish (Spanish localisation was introduced for this test)

 

i'd just guess you reported all of those "bugs" ingame too? no? kk

 

>> Stress testing is a form of testing that is used to determine the stability of a given system or entity. It involves testing beyond normal operational capacity, often to a breaking point, in order to observe the results.

 

just for the record

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  crysent

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Posts: 847

8/22/12 9:14:56 AM#138
Originally posted by stragen001

Im amazed. ANet have been doing so well so far, but this stress test is the buggiest by far.

The problems I have experienced that WERENT there on previous tests are:

1) leap/movement abilites all bugged. Eviscerate causes all players/mobs/npcs to disappear until you move then they reappear, savage leap causes instant death. Other movement abilites such as the ranger sword 2(cant remember name) teleport you all over the map

2) no indicator for party members on map, even when you are standing next to one another. 

3) groups are no longer kept together when going to overflow servers

4) wierd bugs in WvW where you get killed on teleporting into the zone by random NPC invaders, but if you move they disappear

5) Email authentication bug. System keeps asking you to authenticate you email even after you have already done so

6) Forums and account page down

 

Come on ANet, get it together. The previous stress tests were flawless! I blame the Spanish (Spanish localisation was introduced for this test)

 

Honestly I didn't experience any of these things except the email bug.  Forums and account page down I don't think is really a bug, they were doing all sorts of stress test and adjustments to their servers that would be normal.

 

Perhaps you were having some lag issues that caused a lot of your bugs?  It was a stress test after all, I would assume they were tampering with the servers..

  Wickedjelly

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8/22/12 9:16:39 AM#139
Yeah, that was a rather brutal stress test. Hope they worked some kinks out but frankly there were quite a few bugs for a game only a couple days away from launching.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  lifeordinary

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Posts: 691

8/22/12 9:17:40 AM#140

This stress test kept me busy with bug reports but the two biggest issues for me were..

1;) Players disappearing right in front of my eyes and getting killed by invisible enemies

2;) Abilities getting stuck and not firing on time

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