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  dethlord

Novice Member

Joined: 6/26/06
Posts: 16

8/21/12 1:17:36 PM#61
Originally posted by zigmund

I for one am sick of pve games - in a word boring.

I am also sick of pve games with instanced pvp. Repetitive hamster in a wheel pvp.

Still waiting for the next "Shadowbane"

you and me both buddy, shadowbane was such a good game despite all the bugs.

Deth to you ALL!

  Wizardry

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Joined: 8/27/04
Posts: 6700

Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

8/21/12 1:21:07 PM#62

Well you missed the best pvp game ever UT99.The problem with all pvp is how it plays out with latency/lag/packet loss/frame rates ect ect.

I don't understand the part about team work to take down a target?PVP stands for player versus player.Team pvp involving a target would be more like COD or a Battlegrounds target.

rpg pvp has been done down right awful,i have seen nothing i want to take part in.The reason is movement is limited,map play is not a factor at all,weapons are not balanced enough for all distances and in most games stats and gear matters.So imo it gives us about a 10-20% skill level and the rest is just everything else.RPG's further the problem by trying to add fps like aiming,but needing to access 20 hot keys at the same time,it is counter productive.Other games  make limitations on how many skills you can use.I have this skill but i can't use it?Hmm not very good design.

You see my opinion is that there is no one best way to play,that is what makes a fps the best at pvp.In RPG's you have your best damage,your best  healing ability and really nothing is brought to the table outside the box.Hate tools no longer come into play in pvp either,so half of what you learned to play with in a rpg is removed for pvp combat.

If i did want to play a pvp environment right now in a rpg,it would be FFXI's.It takes place in the real game world,NOT an instance idea.The teams are balanced ,example 5 versus 5 and levels are balanced as well.However gear is to each their own and can make a big difference.

 

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Samoan Diamond

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8/21/12 1:36:46 PM#63
whats a travesty is someone like MMORPG.com wanting you to represent not only them but most american gamers over there. there had to have been a better choice.
  FrodoFragins

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Joined: 4/29/10
Posts: 2767

8/21/12 1:39:52 PM#64
I've never had nearly as much fun in MMO PVP as I had when I played ranked FPS team games.  But that's probably because I have good twitch speed but suck at microing a ton of skills.
  bcbully

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Joined: 3/03/12
Posts: 7206

8/21/12 1:46:40 PM#65
L2play OP.

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  General-Zod

Novice Member

Joined: 9/19/06
Posts: 551

Kneel.

8/21/12 2:34:37 PM#66
Originally posted by Icewhite

I think "PvP Right" is another of those semantic null forum expressions.  Seems to be about a hundred different ideas of what "right" means, in this thread alone.

Damn, it's almost like a roleplay thread.  The only constant is, no one does it 'right' (except whoever's speaking, of course).

This makes me feel good

  pookir

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Joined: 7/15/12
Posts: 63

8/21/12 2:47:19 PM#67
Good stuff
  jmcdermottuk

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Joined: 6/10/06
Posts: 781

8/21/12 2:47:35 PM#68

Modern PvP is very much a game within a game these days. I agree 100% with your comments about how older games were. Login and play, not worrying about specs and builds. I don't know what was wrong with that either.

That said I'm not in your catagory of unskilled button mashing, I tend to do quite well in PvP but I also tend to use odd specs. I've never been into cookie cutter builds and I don't like following the crowd. I prefer to find something a bit different that works for me.

As for tactics, they make sense. If you use even rudimentary tactics you will always beat "the zerg" which is where most players seem to find themselves in my experience.

  Mythryl

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Joined: 12/07/10
Posts: 18

8/21/12 2:49:42 PM#69
Great article, I agree!
  Deadlyne

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Joined: 12/19/10
Posts: 217

8/21/12 2:56:59 PM#70
Anyone who agrees with this article is a total bluebie.  Its all your faults that Vanguard doesn't have PvP anymore and you know it!  I hope your kids get bind camped for hours when they are old enough to play MMO's!

Just to question the philosophy. Army of Socrates.

  justinco

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Joined: 9/16/10
Posts: 11

8/21/12 2:57:09 PM#71

I agree that modern PvP does suck, for the most part. "Modern" PvP being instanced battlegrounds where success is driven primarily by gear/stats and the people with more free time.

You (OP) obviously never played the games that had strategy and tactics but they did exist. DaoC and Shadowbane both required all kinds of strategy and tactics as well as skill/teamwork in execution to be successful. I remember our realm in DaoC (Midgard/Percival) would plan for weeks, if not months, for relic raid assaults or other various RvR objectives in web forums prior to doing them in game.  Putting a plan into action and adapting and overcoming was awesome, I had some of the best PvP/RvR times of my life in that game.

Nowadays the large majority wants instant gratification, without having to put in the time/work for the reward. Which brings up the other major fault of modern PvP,  the reward. The reward has transformed from being the thrill of the fight, or the excitement of victory (sometimes defeat)...to what epic purple weapon of godly'ness do I get if I do 500 battlegrounds??? To me, that is the single biggest reason why modern PvP sucks.

I PvP because I am a competitor, I play to crush/win, and there is no better way to test yourself then when against other competitors. Win or lose it is fun (most of the time :) ), I just wish there were more competitors instead of gear grinders around these days...because IMHO, they are the ones that make PvP suck..

 

  NovaRyu

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Joined: 9/09/05
Posts: 24

8/21/12 2:59:24 PM#72
Awesome article, I really enjoyed it. Even as a huge fan of pvp (I played on Tallon Zek in EQ1 and loved every minute of it), I can agree with 90% of what the author said. Very well put.
  Kost

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8/21/12 3:06:07 PM#73
Originally posted by justinco
Which brings up the other major fault of modern PvP,  the reward. The reward has transformed from being the thrill of the fight, or the excitement of victory (sometimes defeat)...to what epic purple weapon of godly'ness do I get if I do 500 battlegrounds??? To me, that is the single biggest reason why modern PvP sucks.

This x 1000

I couldn't agree more. Bragging rights used to be all the reward one required, you emerged victorious over your opponent, which was the goal from the start.

 

  Hodo

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Joined: 6/05/08
Posts: 559

8/21/12 3:41:25 PM#74
I hate instanced PvP unless that is the game I am player, (See Tribes).   If I am playing a game with PvP, I dont want instanced, or safe zones or anything of that like.    I dont want specific PvP power gear or junk like that.   I hate games like that, thus I hate WoW, SWTOR, and anything like it.

So much crap, so little quality.

  User Deleted
8/21/12 3:44:44 PM#75

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Todays answer:

-Who Were They? I dont know,they AFKed out from  battleground and they bought better gear and  moved to winner server and changed their names and some of them were bots and and...

 

  eric_w66

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Joined: 1/12/06
Posts: 1009

8/21/12 4:31:24 PM#76
Originally posted by Adiaris

Am I the only one to remember how much fail WAR's rvr was? It's not the first time lately I see it mentioned as a positive example of it done right... But that's kind of not what I remember it being at all, nor what most people used to comment about it way back when. Maybe it changed? I admit I wouldn't know, I never went back for a second look.

Oh, and the article reads like a whiny rant. Pvp in a box is pvp in a box, and it isn't going anywhere but neither is it the cause of the world's problems. Trick is just to limit it's balance affecting pve and the game as a whole. If people want to massacre each other in a pvp box let them, as long as there's other options and other games I don't see the issue really.

No, I remember it as well. Yet many seem to look back with rose-tinted glasses at DAOC's setup and forget all the horror, pain, and suffering they encountered. It's human nature to block out bad memories. DAOC had to offer "free high level characters" and the like to try and get people to move servers to make it more competitive, as most servers were dominated by one realm, and contrary to many people's faulty memories here, the two lesser realms didn't "fight the good fight and beat up the big bad meanie". No, they got ganked. Repeatedly. Till they moved servers where their realm was top dog. Sure, once your realm is #1, PvP is more fun.... no one likes to lose.

 

And regarding others saying "Shadowbane". You mean the game where an entire server could be dominated by a single guild who managed to drive away the playerbase faster than any previous game ever had? Sure, great fun for that guild.... till they ran out of people to gank. Sucked for the developer. No players = no money.

  Thorbrand

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Posts: 1217

8/21/12 4:39:30 PM#77
Well I agree with your article 100% and can't wait to see what you have to say about WvW in GW2. I get banned everytime I comment on it.
  shakermaker0

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Joined: 5/25/09
Posts: 198

8/21/12 4:45:05 PM#78
Just to clarify, I did write this piece as a tongue in cheek observation of PvP. I don't really boil it down to being an unskilled "jab fest" and not all of you are "little bitches." Its an exergeration of opinion to entertain, whilst also summing up some of my more angry views, when I die for the 100th time. Bit of fun, just to cause debate - no real insults. Peace and love. 
  Taiyoh

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Posts: 48

8/21/12 5:03:11 PM#79

I can't say I disagree with your point of view there. PvP would be more entertaining if it actually consisted of mature players who can do with a friendly match.. But that's the thing. I rarely ever see someone act mature and friendly in pvp matches. Some prime examples.. Ragnarok Online was my very first MMO, and of course I checked out the PvP Arenas there. It just consisted of people either going at it with eachother, or just sitting with a group in some spot to chat it up. Whenever someone would get killed, that person would start his/her personal vendetta against the one killing him/her.. Either just coming back over and over again, raging at the person, demanding their blood and whatnot.. And sometimes it even escalated where that person would just come back with their whole guild just to hunt down one person because he/she had the NERVE to attack that person in a PvP Arena, oh the horror of it all~

 

To put things simply, if I do PvP, I prefer simple one on one duels with friends, because I can have a fun and friendly match with them, without risking people waging war against me.

  RolanStorm

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Believe nothing of what you hear, and only half of what you see.

8/21/12 6:15:14 PM#80
Great read, indeed.
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