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  cptndunsel

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OP  8/21/12 12:37:19 PM#1

I elected not to sub after the 30 day period included with game purchase expired. Here is why:

 

  • In less than 30 days I'd made it 1/2 way through Transylvania. I did not skip cut scenes, did every quest i could find in the prior zones, ran the dungeons. So don't claim I skipped content or rushed. It is what it is - the content runs out pretty quickly unless you are the type of player who only plays a few hours every other day.
  • Novelty of quests wore thin. Early zones - kill zombies, build items, fight a boss. Middle zones - kill mummies and cultists, build items, fight a boss. Trans - kill vampires and their minions, build items, fight a boss. By the time you get through much of Transylvania the encounters begin to feel the same as what you have already experienced.
  • Game is not designed for alts - not much unique content for factions aside from starter city. So no real incentive for a Templar to roll a Dragon, for example, unless its for specific PVP needs. I see this as a major flaw - throw everyone in the same exact zones with the same exact missions = faction choice really does not make any difference.
  • PVP is pretty bad in this game.
  • Puzzle and investigations - something hyped - are not terribly difficult or exciting. The translation of hebrew text was the hardest thing I ran into.
  • Games zone population is starting to fall off with many players in Agartha spamming LFG NM mode.
  • Instances are fun the first time through. Run them on higher difficulty and they are the same as they were only bosses have more HP. If you want the best gear - your choice to grind woeful PVP matches and zerg around Fusang or grind dungeons over and over on NM mode. Content gets very stale.
  • No way Funcom can release enough monthly content to stay ahead of the curve. People will consume the content long before the month is up. Then what?
  • Funcom is in trouble as a company. Rumors that monthly content drops may move to quarterly. Layoffs. Discussion of possible move to F2P - not promising signs.
  • Bugs - a lot of them. Being fixed over time but might be the buggiest release I've seen and I've been playing MMOs for over a decade.
  • The graphics are nice enough but I have a hard time understanding why this game is so resource and graphic card intensive. For sure there are memory leaks that lead to CTDs over many hours of play. Games uses a lot of memory and pushes the limits on older 32 bit systems. I don't really see anything in game that accounts for this high resource usage. Something odd here.
 
Fun game, nice concept, but not worth a sub in my opinion.
  User Deleted
8/21/12 12:49:05 PM#2

Agree with pretty much everything.

 

If a game was ever made begging to go F2P this would be it.  Also for f'in petes sakes Funcom put hitpoints on your blue and purple gear and implement a LFG finder.

  rpgalon

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8/21/12 1:17:50 PM#3
Originally posted by cptndunsel

I elected not to sub after the 30 day period included with game purchase expired. Here is why:

 

  • In less than 30 days I'd made it 1/2 way through Transylvania. I did not skip cut scenes, did every quest i could find in the prior zones, ran the dungeons. So don't claim I skipped content or rushed. It is what it is - the content runs out pretty quickly unless you are the type of player who only plays a few hours every other day.
  • Novelty of quests wore thin. Early zones - kill zombies, build items, fight a boss. Middle zones - kill mummies and cultists, build items, fight a boss. Trans - kill vampires and their minions, build items, fight a boss. By the time you get through much of Transylvania the encounters begin to feel the same as what you have already experienced.
  • Game is not designed for alts - not much unique content for factions aside from starter city. So no real incentive for a Templar to roll a Dragon, for example, unless its for specific PVP needs. I see this as a major flaw - throw everyone in the same exact zones with the same exact missions = faction choice really does not make any difference.
  • PVP is pretty bad in this game.
  • Puzzle and investigations - something hyped - are not terribly difficult or exciting. The translation of hebrew text was the hardest thing I ran into.
  • Games zone population is starting to fall off with many players in Agartha spamming LFG NM mode.
  • Instances are fun the first time through. Run them on higher difficulty and they are the same as they were only bosses have more HP. If you want the best gear - your choice to grind woeful PVP matches and zerg around Fusang or grind dungeons over and over on NM mode. Content gets very stale.
  • No way Funcom can release enough monthly content to stay ahead of the curve. People will consume the content long before the month is up. Then what?
  • Funcom is in trouble as a company. Rumors that monthly content drops may move to quarterly. Layoffs. Discussion of possible move to F2P - not promising signs.
  • Bugs - a lot of them. Being fixed over time but might be the buggiest release I've seen and I've been playing MMOs for over a decade.
  • The graphics are nice enough but I have a hard time understanding why this game is so resource and graphic card intensive. For sure there are memory leaks that lead to CTDs over many hours of play. Games uses a lot of memory and pushes the limits on older 32 bit systems. I don't really see anything in game that accounts for this high resource usage. Something odd here.
 
Fun game, nice concept, but not worth a sub in my opinion.

well, I'm still enjoying the game, and I love the same PvP that you say it is bad...

It is all about taste, so I'm sorry you could not find what you wanted in this game. hope you find it someday.

  z4oslo

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Joined: 12/17/10
Posts: 29

8/21/12 1:33:12 PM#4

If this is the buggiest game you have seen, you havent really played that many.

Also, I dont really appreciate that you use rumors and present them as facts. Its just bad etiquette.

And this: Rumors that monthly content drops may move to quarterly ... umm. what?

 

 

 

 

  Karazul

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Joined: 8/20/12
Posts: 39

8/21/12 2:07:35 PM#5

Playing the game and enjoying it a lot.

IMO, the best MMORPG so far, although its not perfect.

But its a matter of taste... Im just tired of "WoW like" MMOs.

  laserit

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8/21/12 2:36:57 PM#6

I've played since release as well as all the open beta's. I have not had a crash with the game yet. My longest log in was for about 12hrs with out a hitch. I'm running a 64bit OS, I could see there being a problem with a 32bit OS as it dosnt matter how much ram your system has, it will only use up to 3 gig's which could be causing your problems depending on how many apps are running in the background.

IMHO Running a 32bit operating system with a current rig in this day and age is not a wise choice, if you have to run some legacy software you should be running a dual boot system with your old OS installed.

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  gestalt11

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8/21/12 2:43:24 PM#7

I agree with most of that.  I too got really tired of undead.

 

Not a bad game but gets tiresome and some aspects are meh.

  ShakyMo

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Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

8/21/12 3:04:45 PM#8
Kara:
It's a shame they made endgame so wow like then. Another gear grinder.

Leveling is great though
  ShakyMo

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8/21/12 3:07:51 PM#9
How to make tsw better.

Keep the leveling
Let crafters make good gear.
Make pvp less wow, more daoc.
Expand horizontally, with new weapon types and what have you, not vertically with even more tiers of gear.
Copy rp elements from coh, like the clubs.
Cabal housing using a group crafting interface
  cptndunsel

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Joined: 3/26/12
Posts: 128

 
OP  8/21/12 4:31:46 PM#10

Several sources for the rumor on content drops. For example: http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/08/16/chaos-theory-the-f2p-future-of-the-secret-world/

 

Could all be bogus - which was why I had a bullet point on monthly drops and whether the amount of content per drop would be enough to keep people going for a month versus a few hours.

Time will tell.

  Mardukk

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Joined: 2/05/11
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8/21/12 4:40:28 PM#11

OP's post boils down to the game is content lite which there is no doubt it is.  However, I feel that the content that is there is excellent.  The graphics are also the best I've seen in the genre on high settings that's why it's tough on your really old system.

 

I think in a couple years, if they keep adding content and expanding horizontally (not sure how this would work forever though) this will be a truly fantastic game. 

  Ulorik

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Joined: 9/12/11
Posts: 182

8/21/12 4:46:56 PM#12

I have to strongly disagree:

I personally am taking my time to play this, and yes, older generation here with family and job.

 

But this game is really so different from all the other MMO's that it deserves for people to stick with it for longer.

The biggest plus for me definitely are the missions with all their cutscenes and solo instances. These in my opinion are incredibly well written and voice acted, with a lot of intelligence and wit. I always secretly compare the cutscenes and voiceacting to SWTOR, a game which I endured for the first month and did not continue to subscribe to. The difference is just huge. I am looking forward to each and every cutscene in this game, these are the real game rewards for me here, and I also like to replay them whereever convenient. In SWTOR I felt a little bit like the "Go compare" adverts: Just bloody shut this guy up. TSW cutscnens are like "Compare the meerkat" adverts, witty original, you just can't get enough of watching them.

The other strong point in my opinion is the variety and design of the solo instances. The only time I have enjoyed myself nearly as much was in the solo instances in LotRo.

 

So, in summary: Even if Funcom might take a bit longer to come up with new content...it's well worth waiting for it. In the meantime you can alway try and horizontally level your avatar, completing the skill wheel, trying out new combos etc.

 

And finally: Bring Shambalah back as a PvP zone !

  Nitth

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8/21/12 4:56:40 PM#13


Originally posted by cptndunsel
So don't claim I skipped content or rushed. It is what it is - the content runs out pretty quickly unless you are the type of player who only plays a few hours every other day.

So if you only played a few hours a day instead of "hammering it" how long, In your opion do you think it would take you to "finish"?


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  VikingGamer

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8/21/12 5:00:31 PM#14
Originally posted by Zylaxx

Agree with pretty much everything.

 

If a game was ever made begging to go F2P this would be it.  Also for f'in petes sakes Funcom put hitpoints on your blue and purple gear and implement a LFG finder.

I agree with the lfg finder but you do realize that nobody forces you to equip all healing or all attack talismans right? you get your hitpoints on your talismans by "newsflash" equiping hitpoint talismans. Not too tough there. And the great thing is you are not limited to having 30% of your stats in hitpoints as you are with the greens. You replace a minor talisman and you have 10% do a major instead and you have 15% and so on. it is really a very flexible system you just need to take the responsiblity to actually choose what you will do.

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  Mors-Subita

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8/21/12 5:02:47 PM#15
Originally posted by Nitth

 


Originally posted by cptndunsel
So don't claim I skipped content or rushed. It is what it is - the content runs out pretty quickly unless you are the type of player who only plays a few hours every other day.

 

So if you only played a few hours a day instead of "hammering it" how long, In your opion do you think it would take you to "finish"?

He said every OTHER day, meaning 1 in 2 days...

So what he said is if I played 2 hours a day on monday, wednesday, friday, saturday, monday, wednesday, friday, etc. etc. etc... It would last me for a while...

 

Personally, I found that the combat and gameplay in an area got stale, repetitive, and boring long before you could go to the next area...

  laserit

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8/21/12 5:10:00 PM#16
Originally posted by Nitth

 


Originally posted by cptndunsel
So don't claim I skipped content or rushed. It is what it is - the content runs out pretty quickly unless you are the type of player who only plays a few hours every other day.

 

So if you only played a few hours a day instead of "hammering it" how long, In your opion do you think it would take you to "finish"?

The rate I play, it will probably take me till christmas. I do enjoy other games and activities as well.

Maybe someone who has finished the content with out skipping things can let us know how many hours of content there is?

Ive read comments of 400hrs worth of content kicked about. (dont know if that is accurate)

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  Nephaerius

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8/21/12 5:12:25 PM#17

I was excited for this game and finally fired up a trial this past weekend.  Seriously couldn't make it past the tutorial.  SO BORING!  Same game, new setting, snoozefest.  I will totally admit that's just my opinion and for some the game is absolutely amazing.  I wish Funcom and all TSW players the best, but it's not a game for me.

There's no way there's 400 hrs of content in TSW at launch.  Maybe if you count running the same dungeons and pvp over again to the best gear.  I've yet to see an MMO launch with more than roughly 100-150 hrs or so of content.  Again I'll admit I've never played more than a bit of the tutorial of TSW (totally willing to put my foot in my mouth here) but I've been playing MMOs a long ass time now and I don't even know what to say to the suggestion of 400 hrs worth of content.

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  Kyleran

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8/21/12 5:13:34 PM#18
Originally posted by Mors-Subita
Originally posted by Nitth

 


Originally posted by cptndunsel
So don't claim I skipped content or rushed. It is what it is - the content runs out pretty quickly unless you are the type of player who only plays a few hours every other day.

 

So if you only played a few hours a day instead of "hammering it" how long, In your opion do you think it would take you to "finish"?

He said every OTHER day, meaning 1 in 2 days...

So what he said is if I played 2 hours a day on monday, wednesday, friday, saturday, monday, wednesday, friday, etc. etc. etc... It would last me for a while...

 

Personally, I found that the combat and gameplay in an area got stale, repetitive, and boring long before you could go to the next area...

Yeah, this is probably me, I don't run any dungeons and do almost everything solo.

Been playing about 1.5 months and just arrived in the 2nd Egypt zone the other night.

So more than enough content for a player like myself, but I can see where people with more time into it every day would run dry quickly.

 

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  kol56

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8/21/12 5:16:00 PM#19
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When i heard that TSW wouldn't have any levels, i expected a totally different game...

But i found myself doing the same things i do in every other MMO, quest quest quest, dungeon, new area... that's it

Oh and bad PVP...

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  Nitth

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8/21/12 5:18:07 PM#20

 


Originally posted by kol56
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When i heard that TSW wouldn't have any levels, i expected a totally different game...

But i found myself doing the same things i do in every other MMO, quest quest quest, dungeon, new area... that's it

Oh and bad PVP...


 


Theres no need to bring that game up, its off topic.


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