Originally posted by coretex666

Originally posted by Eir_S
On first impulse, I thought "Ew, not a fan", but as someone pointed out, they're early level bosses.  Still not much of an excuse (and yes, GW2 bosses are far cooler at even lower levels, deny it if you want to), but I can't judge a game on its first dungeon either.

I do not think that the combat and boss fights will be getting much better at higher levels. People who care about these aspects a lot will probably not be interested in AA. In GW, combat is a key aspect or at least one of the key aspects, so that it has to be really good.

I doubt that anyone would be interested in AA for its combat or instances. I do not claim that they are not important, but the level of importance varies based on the type of game.

Yeah, you're right actually.  I'd play AA for totally different reasons, seeing as I can get a challenging combat fix from GW2 (Ettin vs. Warrior seemed different every time).  Being able to build your own towns and modes of transportation are my interests in AA so far.  That being said, the combat looks a lot more fun than TSW.

Originally posted by Eir_S

Originally posted by coretex666

Originally posted by Eir_S
On first impulse, I thought "Ew, not a fan", but as someone pointed out, they're early level bosses.  Still not much of an excuse (and yes, GW2 bosses are far cooler at even lower levels, deny it if you want to), but I can't judge a game on its first dungeon either.

I do not think that the combat and boss fights will be getting much better at higher levels. People who care about these aspects a lot will probably not be interested in AA. In GW, combat is a key aspect or at least one of the key aspects, so that it has to be really good.

I doubt that anyone would be interested in AA for its combat or instances. I do not claim that they are not important, but the level of importance varies based on the type of game.

Yeah, you're right actually.  I'd play AA for totally different reasons, seeing as I can get a challenging combat fix from GW2 (Ettin vs. Warrior seemed different every time).  Being able to build your own towns and modes of transportation are my interests in AA so far.  That being said, the combat looks a lot more fun than TSW.

Smashing your face agaisnt a wall is more fun than TSW.

Originally posted by LachyFTW
These are level 20 bosses, just look at the low level bosses in other games they dont do shit either.

Have you seen low levels bosses in TSW? Look up a video of polaris :).

Originally posted by Letsinod
Real excited for this game but that just looked horrible.  Boss just stands there and doesn't move?  Lets hope the other sandbox elements are good.

Yeah that was disappointing. I'm still interested in the game, but that looked boring as hell. Just standing around pewpewing like most other MMOs. Mobs and environments should at least engage the entire party, not just the person in melee range. The typical , non-action-oriented MMO gameplay isn't ~that~ bad a thing provided it manages to engage people, keep them moving and thinking. Mob design like this is just lazy.

Originally posted by Treekodar

Originally posted by cyress8
lol. he did not even mention GW2 yet it seems to be  on your mind.  Thats pretty sad.

Is GW2 not on everybody's mind, what with the release so close? But hey, feel free to twist my words to justify whatever point you were trying to make.

Twist what words?  He said zero about GW2 and you still brought it up when you had no reason to even do so.

Originally posted by yaoming36

Originally posted by LachyFTW
These are level 20 bosses, just look at the low level bosses in other games they dont do shit either.

Umm that isn't the right attitude. "Just because all games don't do good boss battles at low levels doesn't mean we have to either"

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09IPQdMz49Q&feature=player_detailpage#t=229s

 

Level 1 boss battle :)

... and TSW 1st dungeon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLerJMvziDU

Originally posted by LachyFTW
These are level 20 bosses, just look at the low level bosses in other games they dont do shit either.

This. Seriously people dont be retarded.  These people are level 19 in the video, think about how hard and challenging level 19  bosses are in other games.  Its an introductary dungeon boss designed to get people familar with how dungeons work.  You can even see with the second boss its already becoming some what more dynamic.

What I took away from it is that the graphics look good, animations while nothing flashy are atleast very smooth, and that the russian playing is a terrible backpeddler/keyboard turner and clicker LOL. 

What the hell is up with all of this ArcheAge bashing from GW2 people? Let's face it, the "Bosses" in GW2 are highly lackluster as all those fights are is Dps & Healing fights.

The only thing I've seen GW2 boss fights (pre-lvl 40) do is remove the need for a tank or dedicated healer, but the fact you need to keep yourself alive and do sheer dps without an actual strategy makes the Boss fights completely boring and lackluster. Essentially, if you have enough people for the encounter you will ALWAYS win no matter what. That is boring as heck. There's no challenge there.

Seriously, go look at ALL of the boss fight videos. Especially that lvl 1 Asura boss fight. It just stands there with targety thingy on its chest while it randomly beats around the room not moving. This is because these events are meant to be "Open", but i've seen similar open-world fights in ArchAge with Dragons, Giant Golems, and Seamonsters that MOVE, CHASE, and REACT to the players throughout the encounter.

They're also open world encounters in AA for their boss fights that can support 200+ players with a boss that doesn't just sit there and let you beat on it while it randomly does damage around the room.

I'm not saying GW2's boss system is worse, but what I am saying is that GW2's certainly is NOT better by ANY regard. It's simply a different take on the same mold.

Originally posted by LachyFTW
You cant really expect AA to have groundbreaking combat or graphics.

I thought AA uses the latest cryengine. So graphics should be better isn't it? And for the combat, no excuse there why they need to stick to stand, spank and spam. If you like it then good for you

Originally posted by kramt

Originally posted by LachyFTW
You cant really expect AA to have groundbreaking combat or graphics.

I thought AA uses the latest cryengine. So graphics should be better isn't it? And for the combat, no excuse there why they need to stick to stand, spank and spam. If you like it then good for you

If they max out the graphics with the cryengine computers will melt during sieges and the graphics are really good atm so I dont have a problem with that, Combat wise I prefer AA combat over Tera and Door Wars 2.

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

What the hell is up with all of this ArcheAge bashing from GW2 people? Let's face it, the "Bosses" in GW2 are highly lackluster as all those fights are is Dps & Healing fights.

 

The only thing I've seen GW2 boss fights (pre-lvl 40) do is remove the need for a tank or dedicated healer, but the fact you need to keep yourself alive and do sheer dps without an actual strategy makes the Boss fights completely boring and lackluster. Essentially, if you have enough people for the encounter you will ALWAYS win no matter what. That is boring as heck. There's no challenge there.

 

Seriously, go look at ALL of the boss fight videos. Especially that lvl 1 Asura boss fight. It just stands there with targety thingy on its chest while it randomly beats around the room not moving. This is because these events are meant to be "Open", but i've seen similar open-world fights in ArchAge with Dragons, Giant Golems, and Seamonsters that MOVE, CHASE, and REACT to the players throughout the encounter.

 

They're also open world encounters in AA for their boss fights that can support 200+ players with a boss that doesn't just sit there and let you beat on it while it randomly does damage around the room.

 

I'm not saying GW2's boss system is worse, but what I am saying is that GW2's certainly is NOT better by ANY regard. It's simply a different take on the same mold.

I do not think that there is "bashing" going on. You can expect that some people will not like the game or some of its aspects and that they will express their opinion here. I find this forum section to be quite peaceful actually.

The real bashing will come when the game is closer to NA / EU release :D

Originally posted by LachyFTW

Originally posted by kramt

Originally posted by LachyFTW
You cant really expect AA to have groundbreaking combat or graphics.

I thought AA uses the latest cryengine. So graphics should be better isn't it? And for the combat, no excuse there why they need to stick to stand, spank and spam. If you like it then good for you

Combat wise I prefer AA combat over Tera and Door Wars 2.

Heh! FYI, in GW2 you can dedstroy gates and walls. In AA you can also siege walls I'm not sure about gates though. Before naming GW2 as Gate Wars 2 AA will have its share of bashing walls. Do you even know how long it takes to destroy the walls in AA? As what I've seen in the vids, same time as with GW2

I could be wrong, but I think our russian friends play on low graphic setting.

I'd wait for some gameplay videos from Steparu, he always has ArcheAge on highest possible setting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9N_XsZNreg&feature=plcp

Steparu doesn't even seem to be in CBT5. All his streams are Blade&Soul.

And yes, Garro and Betacake are doing 720p with lesser settings it seems. Hoping someone will gets some crisp 1080p vids,  Advaita was the source of most of those, but I haven't seen anything from them yet.

Originally posted by CyclopsSlay

Steparu doesn't even seem to be in CBT5. All his streams are Blade&Soul.

And yes, Garro and Betacake are doing 720p with lesser settings it seems. Hoping someone will gets some crisp 1080p vids,  Advaita was the source of most of those, but I haven't seen anything from them yet.

youtube link I provided is from Steparu, CBT5, but only character creation videos so far. He's not doing any live streaming so far, but he is in CBT5 obviously. I very much dislike characters he creates in any game, but at least video quality is perfect.

Originally posted by yaoming36

Originally posted by LachyFTW
These are level 20 bosses, just look at the low level bosses in other games they dont do shit either.

Umm that isn't the right attitude. "Just because all games don't do good boss battles at low levels doesn't mean we have to either"

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09IPQdMz49Q&feature=player_detailpage#t=229s

 

Level 1 boss battle :)

The boss stands there shooting out random aoe's that 1 shot random people taking part in the zerg. Not that impressive tbh. That seems to be the case for most boss fight videos I've seen for GW2 bosses.

Random 1-shotting of people in a giant zerg. Lots of rezzing and lots of running around while casting spells. Feels all too arcade for me personally. I love action combat, but I prefer the strategic aspect of a game like TERA than the carpal tunnel inducing button mash of GW2 - That's just my opinion of course.

LoL I just said this looks like tab target tank and spank MMO, which actually is true and that part about AA sucks tbh. It does have other sandbox elemnts that are rather quite nice, like naval figts, housing, jail system, growing plants and other, but lets be honest combat is same old same old.

EDIT: some AA fanboys immediately started bashing GW2 even though i didnt mention it.

Hope AA wont have alot ppl of this kind playing it......