Originally posted by Warmaker

Originally posted by Souldrainer

Grim Dawn > POE > TL2.

Diablo 3?  Worst ARPG invented.  I'd sooner gouge out my own eyes than spend a dime on that game!

Your first two titles aren't even out yet, and the first one hasn't even gotten it's money to begin work on it yet.

As for TL2, I like it's solo and multiplayer friendliness.  I can enjoy an action RPG experience like old-school Diablo and not be hampered down by draconian and money grabbing measures like those implemented by Blizzard.  Also, it's mod friendly.  More so than even Diablo 2, which did have a slew of mods for it years ago.  Not to mention I can play it offline, unlike Diablo 3.  I travel on occasion for extensive periods of time, oftenly in places where I'm not going to have that fancy internet connection.  Nice to know I can have my ARPG fix on my trusty laptop wherever I go.  Unlike Diablo 3.

As for Diablo 3, personally, the Diablo series ended with D2.  I'll leave it at that.

Originally posted by bonzoso21

Originally posted by Ghost12

Originally posted by Techinstein
Diablo 3,because its very popular, and lots of people say its fun and amazing. Especially if you like those type of games. But at the end its up to you to choose.

 

With a 3.8 user score on metacritic http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/diablo-iii I doubt D3 is popular, yet alone fun and amazing.

I hope you don't actually trust user scores on Metacritic to be a fair representation of a game's quality. Disgruntled nutjobs are always bombing good games with 0 ratings after having fits of nerdrage over something 95% of players would shrug off.

About as often as overly optimistic fanboys give 10's over something undeserved. Never understood how people consider this a valid argument. Someone speaking badly about a game doesn't differ much in reliability than someone who speaks good about it. However, lots of disgruntled players vs much less that aren't, if the reviews and drop in players are any indication, speak volumes about the game.

Originally posted by gaeanprayer

Originally posted by bonzoso21

Originally posted by Ghost12

Originally posted by Techinstein
Diablo 3,because its very popular, and lots of people say its fun and amazing. Especially if you like those type of games. But at the end its up to you to choose.

 

With a 3.8 user score on metacritic http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/diablo-iii I doubt D3 is popular, yet alone fun and amazing.

I hope you don't actually trust user scores on Metacritic to be a fair representation of a game's quality. Disgruntled nutjobs are always bombing good games with 0 ratings after having fits of nerdrage over something 95% of players would shrug off.

About as often as overly optimistic fanboys give 10's over something undeserved. Never understood how people consider this a valid argument. Someone speaking badly about a game doesn't differ much in reliability than someone who speaks good about it. However, lots of disgruntled players vs much less that aren't, if the reviews and drop in players are any indication, speak volumes about the game.

 Regardless as a self selected sample of mostly either cheerleaders or malcontents metatcritic is useless. You should  try the rarely used path of making up your own mind. Don't  be a sheeple.

Can anyone say why anyone would have to 'choose'?

I don't get it.

I like KPop so I listen to various KPop artists (Gangam Style FTW). I don't 'choose', why would I?

Doesn't make sense. :(

Is it like the old 'Xbox vs PS' cause that made little sense too.

Originally posted by wungun

I know the game isn't out (Torchlight 2) but we've seen gameplay of it right? 

I'm not sure if there's already another thread about this but I'm curious to what everyone else thinks.

I decided to not get D3 and wait for TL2 instead, I just don´t like that D3 decided to put a MMO focus on gear and the RMT itemshop.

So TL2 seems to be best for me, the rest of you have to decide for yourself though.

there's also Drakensang Online

It's challenging

It's free

It can be played from any computer via browser

It's fun

It's actually a MULTIPLAYER game first, hack and slash second, so I would say it's a lot more fun than either of those two

Good Morning,

Diablo 3:

costs $60. Classes are great though they need some balancing(Witch Doctor I'm looking at you). I don't like how you can't skip quests, and there is not much if any randomness to the maps. Also the Auction house killed it for me. You don't find loot in Diablo 3, Loot in Diablo 3 finds you. No but in all seriousness the auction house just kind of makes it hard to find gear beause they tweak the gear drop ratio so you have virutaually no choice but to go to the auction house. It's a profit thing for them.

Torch Light 2:

Cost $20. Classes are name wise neat although I think they need to update them a bit in comparison. That being said they are updating the skills lol so perhaps nevermind with this comment. I know they were doing a skill tree revamp as well as adding interesting skills. Its traditional like diablo 2 etc. From the classes I played I like it better in conjunction with the world. The maps are random and there are more of everthing in comparison to Torch LIght 1. No Auction house, and you can still group with friends.

TL2 has a mod editor so you know there will be added content and classes incoming. Even I am going to make a dungeon/story with gear and such. So I'm looking forward to that.

Path of Exile:

Free to play: I think they will make their money off of micro transactions. Right now the game is on point (means its really good). I like the grittyness of it. The monsters tend to get a bit hard around level 20ish. Also You should check out the skill...map, road, maze, bible, tree, river, universe or whatever you want to call it. Things is just ridiculously big. At first it was daunting to look at but it kind of forces you to choose carefully which place to put your points. You get a point refund here and there but not enough to just put points anywhere all willy nilly. I usually accumulate around 10pts or so before I place them. They have a barter system in game...much like th world used to be in that you trade objects for gear. Like your identity scrolls...called wisdom scrolls in the game for gear. They have maps I think that are drops on the ground at higher levels that give randomness to your maps, and you can upgrade the maps to make them harder for replay value.

So yeah...

Having played D3 the most, followed by Path of Exile and then Torchlight 2 I would say.

1. POE

2. Torchlight 2

3. Diablo 3

The other two cost less and offer way more. D3 only has the character classes going for it. If I can make a great pet class in TL2 or POe then I'm not sure what to say about D3.

Oh one other point D3 is coming out with a patch here soon to address a lot of issues with the classes. So I'd say check that out as well as POE, and TL2 to give yourself an understanding of what your looking for.

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by gaeanprayer

Originally posted by bonzoso21

Originally posted by Ghost12

Originally posted by Techinstein
Diablo 3,because its very popular, and lots of people say its fun and amazing. Especially if you like those type of games. But at the end its up to you to choose.

 

With a 3.8 user score on metacritic http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/diablo-iii I doubt D3 is popular, yet alone fun and amazing.

I hope you don't actually trust user scores on Metacritic to be a fair representation of a game's quality. Disgruntled nutjobs are always bombing good games with 0 ratings after having fits of nerdrage over something 95% of players would shrug off.

About as often as overly optimistic fanboys give 10's over something undeserved. Never understood how people consider this a valid argument. Someone speaking badly about a game doesn't differ much in reliability than someone who speaks good about it. However, lots of disgruntled players vs much less that aren't, if the reviews and drop in players are any indication, speak volumes about the game.

 Regardless as a self selected sample of mostly either cheerleaders or malcontents metatcritic is useless. You should  try the rarely used path of making up your own mind. Don't  be a sheeple.

I agree about the making up your own mind part. However, that should NOT preclude taking in the opinion of others as points for consideration ... else it is just mule headed stubbornness.

They are both enjoyable games.

I would recommend playing D3 now then TL2 once it is released.