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  ultrastoat

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/14/10
Posts: 144

8/17/12 2:44:22 PM#141
Originally posted by Mouls
Originally posted by Ringside

I tried to log in my char was in isle of noob 1-20 trial

 I had so much lag i couldmt enjoy the game. Game lag and server lag. My computer is a bomb. 16 gigs of ram a Geforce 680 extremely good memory SSD. So basicaly the only reason i could have a decent experience in the past week is because 1- their server hardware sux 2- the game codes are bad and the game cant run smoothly at all time because of the codes behing poorly designed. / I realy doubt that at like 2pm during week daus that the server is overun. 

No matter how good the game is and no matter how fun the classes are at the end of the day free or not Vanguard will remain what it is, a very Badly coded game

The game is bad optimized compared to others UE3 games but u should be getting 60 fps with your setup

but indeed the game need better coding ,TERA uses the same engine has better graphics and is less hardware demanding than Vanguard

plus they need better server perfomance ,players from US getting 150-200ms+lag spikes in a server with less than 1k players is unacceptable today.

Firstly, it's UE 2.5, the same engine used to run Unreal Tournament 2005, not UE3, which would obviously be much better optimized for current machines.

Second, with the amount of crap that Ringside posted, he should not be having that problem or he's running way too much in the background. I have a setup about half as impressive his alleged computer and I get full FPS with no lag except when switching chunks. And this is with absolutely everything in the game maxed out. 

Furthermore, TERA uses UE3 but they also severely altered it to fit into an MMO and get it to their liking. Comparing a game that launched years ago on a previous version of the engine to a brand-new, optimized for the latest hardware version is kind of like saying "well, my motorbike can go 60mph, so why can't my shitty bicycle?". It's shortsighted and, honestly, just stupid. Learn what you're complaining about before you try to make uneducated and completely off-base and invalid complaints about a game's architecture.

I work in games. I do this shit every day, all day. Engines are touchy things, and if gamers would actually shut up for one fucking second and LEARN about the engine they're about to rag on, instead of just saying SOME CODER FUCKED IT ALL UP, we'd all be in a much happier place.

Lastly, Ringside, you're a complete liar. There is absolutely no way that a UE 2.5 game would run that badly on a computer that has those kinds of specs, unless you crammed that GPU, SSD, and RAM into something that's running a freakin' sempron or atom CPU. You do not have a computer with those kinds of specs and if you actually do and I am wrong, then you're still an idiot because I have to run top-end graphics software on a machine barely half that nice to MAKE a freaking game. There is no possible way that a computer like yours would turn Vanguard into a slideshow, aside from registry fuckups of your own accord, a horrible undetected virus, or you've got so many youtube and porn windows running in the background that you've oversaturated your RAM and brought your machine to a grinding halt.

  Ringside

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/25/10
Posts: 190

8/17/12 3:46:17 PM#142
Originally posted by mymmo

I am back and enjoying every sec of the game. So freaking awsome to have a game that is not about linear corridors. 

 

Oh, and Ringside the fault lies on your side. Im running this game at 60fps in the noob areas with a single 680 at 2560x1600/everything maxed and forced 4xAA from the Nvidia panel

I am also getting maxed FPS . Im just saying the game isnt running smoothly at all time especially when loading stuff.

and by server lag i mean i am getting 150-250 Ping +  lag spikes and in ANY other game i am getting 60-90 ping with very occational spikes.

  Ringside

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/25/10
Posts: 190

8/17/12 4:05:10 PM#143
Originally posted by ultrastoat
Originally posted by Mouls
Originally posted by Ringside

I tried to log in my char was in isle of noob 1-20 trial

 I had so much lag i couldmt enjoy the game. Game lag and server lag. My computer is a bomb. 16 gigs of ram a Geforce 680 extremely good memory SSD. So basicaly the only reason i could have a decent experience in the past week is because 1- their server hardware sux 2- the game codes are bad and the game cant run smoothly at all time because of the codes behing poorly designed. / I realy doubt that at like 2pm during week daus that the server is overun. 

No matter how good the game is and no matter how fun the classes are at the end of the day free or not Vanguard will remain what it is, a very Badly coded game

The game is bad optimized compared to others UE3 games but u should be getting 60 fps with your setup

but indeed the game need better coding ,TERA uses the same engine has better graphics and is less hardware demanding than Vanguard

plus they need better server perfomance ,players from US getting 150-200ms+lag spikes in a server with less than 1k players is unacceptable today.

Firstly, it's UE 2.5, the same engine used to run Unreal Tournament 2005, not UE3, which would obviously be much better optimized for current machines.

Second, with the amount of crap that Ringside posted, he should not be having that problem or he's running way too much in the background. I have a setup about half as impressive his alleged computer and I get full FPS with no lag except when switching chunks. And this is with absolutely everything in the game maxed out. 

Furthermore, TERA uses UE3 but they also severely altered it to fit into an MMO and get it to their liking. Comparing a game that launched years ago on a previous version of the engine to a brand-new, optimized for the latest hardware version is kind of like saying "well, my motorbike can go 60mph, so why can't my shitty bicycle?". It's shortsighted and, honestly, just stupid. Learn what you're complaining about before you try to make uneducated and completely off-base and invalid complaints about a game's architecture.

I work in games. I do this shit every day, all day. Engines are touchy things, and if gamers would actually shut up for one fucking second and LEARN about the engine they're about to rag on, instead of just saying SOME CODER FUCKED IT ALL UP, we'd all be in a much happier place.

Lastly, Ringside, you're a complete liar. There is absolutely no way that a UE 2.5 game would run that badly on a computer that has those kinds of specs, unless you crammed that GPU, SSD, and RAM into something that's running a freakin' sempron or atom CPU. You do not have a computer with those kinds of specs and if you actually do and I am wrong, then you're still an idiot because I have to run top-end graphics software on a machine barely half that nice to MAKE a freaking game. There is no possible way that a computer like yours would turn Vanguard into a slideshow, aside from registry fuckups of your own accord, a horrible undetected virus, or you've got so many youtube and porn windows running in the background that you've oversaturated your RAM and brought your machine to a grinding halt.

I am sorry but i have no virus my computer is able to run ANY Games that is out atm. I am running Battlefield 3 with max settings and i am not lagging. Of course i am not lagging that bad in Vanguard with max settings but i am still getting some

chunks ... the game doesnt run smootly at all time that is all what i am saying and i am using the words I know to describe my problem. (English is my third langague)

I am not running anything in the background either so i dunno what to say ... Call me a liar if you want.Yes i am noob with computers and No i dont have your knowledge of coding whats so ever. All i am trying to say is that even with a monster computer Vanguard STILL cant run Perfectly.

But I realy wish it could because i like the art style the classes and the open world, the feel it offers is unique.

I can run the game for like a while and not have any problem and then suddenly getting .03 seconds freezes.

also sound lags when i am logging into the game giving a very unpolished sense

  HappyFunBall

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Joined: 5/14/06
Posts: 206

"Thank God I'm an atheist!"

8/17/12 4:17:34 PM#144

I really liked this game until the devs decided to completely change the diciple class.  I absolutely HATED the changes, and didn't even understand why you would take a class people are playing, then totally redesign it.  It wasn't just a tweak here and there or balance issue, they TOTALLY changed the way the class was played.  So, I quit.  I liked it the way it was, and I never asked for them to change it, sooooo....

It's tempting to come back, but I know I wouldn't play that toon, and he was pretty high level.  I'd hate to start over again.

The other thing about this game, or at least that character class, is that I never, ever, felt powerful.  Like say, in EQ2, as I leveled, I did indeed feel more powerful, along with MANY other games I play.  My character leveled, got better gear, skills, etc, and overall, I felt like I was growing in strength.  No matter how much I leveled in VG, I just never felt strong.  I dunno if I can even explain this to anyone.. it's just the way the class/game "felt" to me.  The whole point to me in any game with levels, stats, skills, gear, etc, is to grow powerful.  If not, why track and work towards expanding all these stats?

I wonder if my toon even exists on their servers anymore?

 

 

 

  User Deleted
8/18/12 9:32:42 AM#145
Originally posted by Ringside
Originally posted by mymmo

I am back and enjoying every sec of the game. So freaking awsome to have a game that is not about linear corridors. 

 

Oh, and Ringside the fault lies on your side. Im running this game at 60fps in the noob areas with a single 680 at 2560x1600/everything maxed and forced 4xAA from the Nvidia panel

I am also getting maxed FPS . Im just saying the game isnt running smoothly at all time especially when loading stuff.

and by server lag i mean i am getting 150-250 Ping +  lag spikes and in ANY other game i am getting 60-90 ping with very occational spikes.

Oh I see. Then I missunderstood you. I have the same loading issue when I am crossing one the many loading borders that the game has (they are shown in the world map). But when I went from a 7,2k hard drive to an ssd (sata2) the loading times that occurs when crossing the lines became much faster.  

I dont have any lag spikes atm. But then again Ive only played for +10 hours on my new character. Hope you will stick with the game even it seems to give you some headaches, because its a old fashioned mmo with great art work, fun classes, a nice community and a good (and sometimes silly) lore  :)

  shinkan

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/05/07
Posts: 214

8/18/12 2:57:23 PM#146

Wish all the best for this game, used to love it.

  Z3R01

Novice Member

Joined: 9/09/08
Posts: 2456

MMO gamer since 1997

8/18/12 3:47:09 PM#147
Originally posted by teakbois
Originally posted by VermilioNomy

Seeing the "Vanguard-going-F2P" hype about this game I thought it might be a good idea to try it out... but then oh dear, I have to pay(a small amount but I have to pay nonetheless) for being able to just wear gear? I mean that's just ridiculous in my eyes.

 

If it were a turbine game you would have to pay to access the dungeon that drops said gear.

 

There is tons of available, wearable gear.  Dont let anyones opinion one way or the other sway you, just play the game for yourself

You can unlock content with in game points in Lotro. Atleast its straight forward. If you want access to those zones, dungeons and skirms you pay and unlock them forever. With SoE free to play the model is so restrictive you have no choice but to subscribe because there are things availabe for subs that even the shop doesn't offer.

I would rather pay to unlock content (or grind for points to unlock) than get nickle and dimmed to death, then find out i still need to sub to access things. SoE model is trash compared to Turbines.

Playing: None

Waiting on: None

  Wrender

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Joined: 2/03/04
Posts: 1395

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8/18/12 3:51:15 PM#148
Bout freaking time! I will be there soon....
  Wrender

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Joined: 2/03/04
Posts: 1395

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8/18/12 3:53:46 PM#149
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by teakbois
Originally posted by Badaboom
It's pretty restrictive. Grouped with a couple of subbed people and went in a dungeon and could not wear any of the drops.   It will be uninstalled shortly  before GW2. 

Under most models youd have to pay to enter the dungeon.  Never understood why people prefer the turbine method over the soe method.  content > gear.  Attuning a piece of gear is 45 cents, 22.5 cents if you buy station cash on a double day if you really must wear that gear.

I would rather pay for content than gear!

 So would I actually!

Just how restrictive is it cause I hate to download the whole thing if SOE has somehow byfuckledit up/ Imagine that..

  User Deleted
8/18/12 5:06:45 PM#150
Originally posted by Z3R01
Originally posted by teakbois
Originally posted by VermilioNomy

Seeing the "Vanguard-going-F2P" hype about this game I thought it might be a good idea to try it out... but then oh dear, I have to pay(a small amount but I have to pay nonetheless) for being able to just wear gear? I mean that's just ridiculous in my eyes.

 

If it were a turbine game you would have to pay to access the dungeon that drops said gear.

 

There is tons of available, wearable gear.  Dont let anyones opinion one way or the other sway you, just play the game for yourself

You can unlock content with in game points in Lotro. Atleast its straight forward. If you want access to those zones, dungeons and skirms you pay and unlock them forever. With SoE free to play the model is so restrictive you have no choice but to subscribe because there are things availabe for subs that even the shop doesn't offer.

I would rather pay to unlock content (or grind for points to unlock) than get nickle and dimmed to death, then find out i still need to sub to access things. SoE model is trash compared to Turbines.

Please tell us how many hours you have to grind the same low level quests with diffrent charecters to get enough Turbine points to buy the games content (all, not the regular level path). Please do so before you bash another games f2p and are all jollygood about another. Diffrent stroke for diffrent users you know...

 

  Vorthanion

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Joined: 7/02/11
Posts: 1825

8/18/12 5:14:22 PM#151
Originally posted by teakbois
Originally posted by Istavaan

why is wanting the best gear possible being immature?

making it a reason not to play is

Are you the designated fun police?  You seem to know what makes a game fun or not and it's only your way.  By the way, you're the one being immature when you can't or won't recognize that people enjoy different aspects of gaming other than your own.

 

Back to the topic.  I won't be returning.  I found the game so unappealing, I couldn't drag myself to play it again even in its "free" state.

  Mouls

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Joined: 2/23/08
Posts: 78

8/18/12 7:54:54 PM#152
Originally posted by ultrastoat
Originally posted by Mouls
Originally posted by Ringside

I tried to log in my char was in isle of noob 1-20 trial

 I had so much lag i couldmt enjoy the game. Game lag and server lag. My computer is a bomb. 16 gigs of ram a Geforce 680 extremely good memory SSD. So basicaly the only reason i could have a decent experience in the past week is because 1- their server hardware sux 2- the game codes are bad and the game cant run smoothly at all time because of the codes behing poorly designed. / I realy doubt that at like 2pm during week daus that the server is overun. 

No matter how good the game is and no matter how fun the classes are at the end of the day free or not Vanguard will remain what it is, a very Badly coded game

The game is bad optimized compared to others UE3 games but u should be getting 60 fps with your setup

but indeed the game need better coding ,TERA uses the same engine has better graphics and is less hardware demanding than Vanguard

plus they need better server perfomance ,players from US getting 150-200ms+lag spikes in a server with less than 1k players is unacceptable today.

Firstly, it's UE 2.5, the same engine used to run Unreal Tournament 2005, not UE3, which would obviously be much better optimized for current machines.

Second, with the amount of crap that Ringside posted, he should not be having that problem or he's running way too much in the background. I have a setup about half as impressive his alleged computer and I get full FPS with no lag except when switching chunks. And this is with absolutely everything in the game maxed out. 

Furthermore, TERA uses UE3 but they also severely altered it to fit into an MMO and get it to their liking. Comparing a game that launched years ago on a previous version of the engine to a brand-new, optimized for the latest hardware version is kind of like saying "well, my motorbike can go 60mph, so why can't my shitty bicycle?". It's shortsighted and, honestly, just stupid. Learn what you're complaining about before you try to make uneducated and completely off-base and invalid complaints about a game's architecture.

I work in games. I do this shit every day, all day. Engines are touchy things, and if gamers would actually shut up for one fucking second and LEARN about the engine they're about to rag on, instead of just saying SOME CODER FUCKED IT ALL UP, we'd all be in a much happier place.

Lastly, Ringside, you're a complete liar. There is absolutely no way that a UE 2.5 game would run that badly on a computer that has those kinds of specs, unless you crammed that GPU, SSD, and RAM into something that's running a freakin' sempron or atom CPU. You do not have a computer with those kinds of specs and if you actually do and I am wrong, then you're still an idiot because I have to run top-end graphics software on a machine barely half that nice to MAKE a freaking game. There is no possible way that a computer like yours would turn Vanguard into a slideshow, aside from registry fuckups of your own accord, a horrible undetected virus, or you've got so many youtube and porn windows running in the background that you've oversaturated your RAM and brought your machine to a grinding halt.

Oh the game is UE2.5 thats explain everything

  Loke666

Hard Core Member

Joined: 10/29/07
Posts: 16024

8/18/12 8:03:40 PM#153

I might get back later this autumn or winter if I tire of GW2 but I am rather sceptical to SOEs "freemium" model. I finally quit EQ2 for good when it went F2P but I might still give VG a new go anyways if I am bored and have some time over.

Not now though, I am trying to enjoy the last of the summer. :)

  Goldknyght

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Joined: 1/12/06
Posts: 1557

It''s one thing to have a opinion, but enforcing one is unconstitutional.

8/19/12 1:10:11 AM#154
I've given it a go, only problem i have with the game is the lag spikes. WTF? this will turn u off because it does it alot
  Tibernicus

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Joined: 8/15/12
Posts: 437

8/19/12 1:15:35 AM#155
Originally posted by Goldknyght
I've given it a go, only problem i have with the game is the lag spikes. WTF? this will turn u off because it does it alot

They have more people on the server than have been on it in a very long time. I believe they downgraded the server years ago, now they're working to get it back up to scratch to fit all the new players.

  Tibernicus

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Joined: 8/15/12
Posts: 437

8/19/12 1:18:07 AM#156
Originally posted by Wrender
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by teakbois
Originally posted by Badaboom
It's pretty restrictive. Grouped with a couple of subbed people and went in a dungeon and could not wear any of the drops.   It will be uninstalled shortly  before GW2. 

Under most models youd have to pay to enter the dungeon.  Never understood why people prefer the turbine method over the soe method.  content > gear.  Attuning a piece of gear is 45 cents, 22.5 cents if you buy station cash on a double day if you really must wear that gear.

I would rather pay for content than gear!

 So would I actually!

Just how restrictive is it cause I hate to download the whole thing if SOE has somehow byfuckledit up/ Imagine that..

You'd rather the game world was divided and broken, and never know how much content you were missing... than just paying a couple sense for the once in a blue moon you stumble upon rare gear?

  Goldknyght

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It''s one thing to have a opinion, but enforcing one is unconstitutional.

8/19/12 6:16:25 PM#157
Originally posted by Tibernicus
Originally posted by Goldknyght
I've given it a go, only problem i have with the game is the lag spikes. WTF? this will turn u off because it does it alot

They have more people on the server than have been on it in a very long time. I believe they downgraded the server years ago, now they're working to get it back up to scratch to fit all the new players.

And thats why people have a hard time wanting to come back. SoE nor Sigil  took the time out to fix important stuff. Bugs are one thing but lagging out to Character Select or Mini lags while fighting a mob are game breaking. But ill give it a few weeks if doesnt get fixed uninstall will be next.

  LoonY

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Joined: 6/11/03
Posts: 5

8/21/12 12:53:04 AM#158
I think the only time I have ever seen so many whiners in one place was when I visited 4chan. Jesus christ. No wait, that's not true. It reminds me why i hate World of Warcraft. Thank you for NOT playing 
  Kroimos

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Joined: 8/18/11
Posts: 12

8/21/12 4:52:41 AM#159
For EU players move to Halgar we have no lag :) and population is on the rise :)
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