I felt this article was a little overly-pessimistic for no reason. I've been playing ffxiv for a while now, and its been a lot of fun. The content they added in the last 8 months has been especially good, I've really enjoyed the storyline that is leading towards the end of the current world.

I am psyched for this new version, the video looks especially good. As a legacy member I can't wait for beta to start.

Originally posted by novairi

I felt this article was a little overly-pessimistic for no reason. I've been playing ffxiv for a while now, and its been a lot of fun. The content they added in the last 8 months has been especially good, I've really enjoyed the storyline that is leading towards the end of the current world.

 

I am psyched for this new version, the video looks especially good. As a legacy member I can't wait for beta to start.

 

the game atm can be fun but if you already have all your jobs at cap well there is nothing for you to do except chat and make gill. i currently dont have all lvl 50 so yes i am having lots of fun in ffxiv atm. def looking forward to ffxiv 2.0. the teaser of the gameplay already caught my attention. But i wonder, when the next gameplay vid will be. i hope they show how teh new gathering system is going to be like.

Originally posted by xr00t3dx

 

 

 

You know what's not new? The company making the game. The same people that made high level mistake after mistake on every inch of the current game. What, they had some epiphany and suddenly understand they were 100% mistaken on everything they claimed was right and now they know with 100% certainty they have it right again!

You can drag that flag around with you all you want. Fool me once.. Or in your case more than once.

BTW - Any company that would build an MMO with an engine that couldn't allow jumping because the engine couldn't handle it has lost their damn mind.

BTW2 - You are gullible as hell if you REALLY think that was why. 

BTW3 - Man didn't really land on the moon.

BTW4 - Zombies are real and will soon take over the planet.

 

 

Actually, if you followed any of the news/information you would know that the head developer made very conscious decisions which he later realized were to the detriment of the game. He stepped down and a completely different person took over with a completely different mission on what the game should be like.

So whether or not they can fulfull this new vision is one thing but they have definitely admitted their mistakes and taken steps to move the game in what they believe  should have been the "right direction".

all of this is old news.

some of you posters act like you know the game how it currently is but then you say that you have not subbed since launch, basically.

The game as it stands now is great and full of players. There is a lot more to do with all 50s than "chat and make gil." run dungeons, hamlet defense, skirmish, work on relics, van darnus, faction levequests, garuda, ifrit, moogle, craft. if youre just chatting and making gil then youre doing it wrong.

They have made incredible strides to fix everything. This new version is looking absolutely jaw dropping based on what they have done.

If you have not seen it, there is gameplay footage on youtube...for all of you saying "oh i need to see more than a few stills".

Also, I would like to point out that it just feels like everyone wants this game to fail for no reason. Even this article felt like it was doubtful for no reason.

2.0 is basically a whole new game and to judge something that has not even come out yet based on its predecessor is quite silly and ridiculous. While some of you may not try it without a trial or feel that it was the worst purchase you've ever made...i will be enjoying 2.0 with my name in the credits and my legacy sub fee and items.

I can't wait for SE to make all you naysayers eat your words. Call me a fan boy if you want but i have supported this game ever since yoshida took over and he and his team have come through better than any mmo dev team in the last decade.

Originally posted by kaludytk

some of you posters act like you know the game how it currently is but then you say that you have not subbed since launch, basically.

 

The game as it stands now is great and full of players. There is a lot more to do with all 50s than "chat and make gil." run dungeons, hamlet defense, skirmish, work on relics, van darnus, faction levequests, craft. if youre just chatting and making gil then youre doing it wrong.

 

They have made incredible strides to fix everything. This new version is looking absolutely jaw dropping based on what they have done.

 

If you have not seen it, there is gameplay footage on youtube...for all of you saying "oh i need to see more than a few stills".

 

Also, I would like to point out that it just feels like everyone wants this game to fail for no reason. Even this article felt like it was doubtful for no reason.

 

2.0 is basically a whole new game and to judge something that has not even come out yet based on its predecessor is quite silly and ridiculous. While some of you may not try it without a trial or feel that it was the worst purchase you've ever made...i will be enjoying 2.0 with my name in the credits and my legacy sub fee and items.

 

I can't wait for SE to make all you naysayers eat your words. Call me a fan boy if you want but i have supported this game ever since yoshida took over and he and his team have come through better than any mmo dev team in the last decade.

 

uhm you do know there are many people in the game that has every single best gear in the game atm, and when you have reached that peak in the game well you are left with nothing else to do except make gill,  chat and help people. there are even a few people who has full raid gear with the relic weap fully upgraded. tell me once you have all those what will you do next besides make gill, chat and help others?

Willing to give 2.0 a try.  My FFXIV CE demands I do.

Not turning it into X vs Y...just that with GW2 around the corner and MoP too, this has to be the worst possible time for XIV to try and push the market again.

Looks nice, always did.

The game is built on such terrible foundations though that anyone who is excited about this should really lower their expectations and not rely on it much. They did a good job of making the original game sound like it was going to be good if you remember... what makes you think they arn't doing it again?

They should have put the resources into a completely new game and engine instead of wasting time and money on the failed one.

Plus, they are going to have to push out some really nice 'free' offers if they expect people to try it again.

“Of course, one of the other big changes was the inclusion of a female Roegadyn and a male Miqo'te, something that offered a better sense of gender equality in the game.”

The game may R.I.P but at least they wasted money and dev time on gender equality. :)

I actually think FFXIV will be worth a go when they get to version 3.0. Version 2.0 still sounds like it needs more content.

"The current battle system that we have right now is based on TP and the TP fills as you fight. The biggest thing that is going to be different here is that the TP guage will be full when you start combat so you can use skills and weapons right off the bat. And so, in addition to that, the combo system will change and the battles will be more action-oriented because you'll be able to use all of these things from the beginning."

FINALLY!  When they changed the battle system with patch 1.20, this issue ruined combat for both me and my husband.  We pretty much stopped playing any battle classes at this point and said this is one thing that would HAVE to change for us to come back with 2.0.  Glad they realized that not being able to actively initiate combat was a bad design.  Can't wait for more action-oriented combat!

Originally posted by Vannor

Looks nice, always did.

The game is built on such terrible foundations though that anyone who is excited about this should really lower their expectations and not rely on it much. They did a good job of making the original game sound like it was going to be good if you remember... what makes you think they arn't doing it again?

Yes, we all know the first launch off FFXIV was a failure...and SE knows that as well. From all the money and time invested in FFXIV, do you honestly think SE wants to make that same mistake twice?

They should have put the resources into a completely new game and engine instead of wasting time and money on the failed one.

From what I understand, FFXIV has been built from the ground up...Which means a new engine was built and will be implemented in "A Realm Reborn" (2.0). Many changes have been made already, checking here may help you understand a bit more.

FFXIV Lodestone

Plus, they are going to have to push out some really nice 'free' offers if they expect people to try it again.

This wouldn't be a bad idea, but FF did have a good amount of loyal fans paying their bills..

Originally posted by Mundus
Damn, where does the money for this come from?

SE have plenty of money, they churn out more games than you can point a stick at.  They have recently backed a kickstarter project for a new console that is due for release next year and is already taking pre-orders and I believe it will be released with one of the final fantasy titles, they recently in the past few days just re-release FFVII for the pc (digital) with enhanced graphics for a low sum of £7:99 for a limited period, they know how to make money without taking the pish.  SE might not have the biggest MMO on the market but they do know how to make some of the best games on the market.

Originally posted by Vannor

They should have put the resources into a completely new game and engine instead of wasting time and money on the failed one.

They did invest time on basically an entirely new game and they built a new engine specifically for this new version of Final Fantasy XIV 2.0 ARR. So, no more wasted time on the old engine that was, most definitely a terrible engine.

Originally posted by R.I.O.T

Originally posted by Vannor

Looks nice, always did.

The game is built on such terrible foundations though that anyone who is excited about this should really lower their expectations and not rely on it much. They did a good job of making the original game sound like it was going to be good if you remember... what makes you think they arn't doing it again?

Yes, we all know the first launch off FFXIV was a failure...and SE knows that as well. From all the money and time invested in FFXIV, do you honestly think SE wants to make that same mistake twice?

They should have put the resources into a completely new game and engine instead of wasting time and money on the failed one.

From what I understand, FFXIV has been built from the ground up...Which means a new engine was built and will be implemented in "A Realm Reborn" (2.0). Many changes have been made already, checking here may help you understand a bit more.

FFXIV Lodestone

Plus, they are going to have to push out some really nice 'free' offers if they expect people to try it again.

This wouldn't be a bad idea, but FF did have a good amount of loyal fans paying their bills..

You are just blindly defending the game. Look at what you are saying: " New engine was built ... many changes have been made already". Right, so, what are they doing then? Injecting parts of this new engine into the old one.. right, well that's not a new engine at all then is it?

he fact of the matter is, games don't get a 'second' launch and there is nothing more to it. If they had made a new game it would have been hyped and launched just like any other MMO and everyone would have given it a chance. If they have built a new engine, which they havn't... they have only largely modified and edited the current one,  then they could have simply made a new game instead. Marketed it as new, sold it as new, called it FFXV, got it reviewed as new... but they havn't. It's like they feel they have to prove they can do it or something instead of just accepting it and moving onto bigger and better things.

My understanding isn't lacking, it's your blind fanboism that is soaring. Trust me, I want it to be good.. but even if it is, it won't get the recognition it deserves. Simples.

Originally posted by Vannor

Originally posted by R.I.O.T

Originally posted by Vannor

Looks nice, always did.

The game is built on such terrible foundations though that anyone who is excited about this should really lower their expectations and not rely on it much. They did a good job of making the original game sound like it was going to be good if you remember... what makes you think they arn't doing it again?

Yes, we all know the first launch off FFXIV was a failure...and SE knows that as well. From all the money and time invested in FFXIV, do you honestly think SE wants to make that same mistake twice?

They should have put the resources into a completely new game and engine instead of wasting time and money on the failed one.

From what I understand, FFXIV has been built from the ground up...Which means a new engine was built and will be implemented in "A Realm Reborn" (2.0). Many changes have been made already, checking here may help you understand a bit more.

FFXIV Lodestone

Plus, they are going to have to push out some really nice 'free' offers if they expect people to try it again.

This wouldn't be a bad idea, but FF did have a good amount of loyal fans paying their bills..

You are just blindly defending the game. The fact of the matter is, games don't get a 'second' launch. There is nothing more to it. If they had made a new game it would have been hyped and launched just like any other MMO and everyone would have given it a chance. If they have built a new engine, which they havn't... they have only largely modified and edited the current one,  then they could have simply made a new game instead. Marketed it as new, sold it as new, called it FFXV, got it reviewed as new... but they havn't. It's like they feel they have to prove they can do it or something instead of just accepting it and moving onto bigger and better things.

My understanding isn't lacking, it's your blind fanboism that is soaring. Trust me, I want it to be good.. but even if it is, it won't get the recognition it deserves. Simples.

I don't think you know what you're talking about... It is a new engine, SE already stated as much, and I doubt it will fail. SE isn't going to make the same mistake twice after investing such large sums of money into basically recreating the entire game. It's sad that there are so many pessimistic people that can't even be happy when a company realizes that they've made a mistake and so go and build a whole freaking new engine and game to try and fix their mistake. I don't think I've ever seen an MMORPG company do this for any MMORPG that needed it.

These days they just make it F2P and hope that people spend money in their cash shops so they can pay back the investors, so it makes me happy to see that SE isn't going that route but trying to give their playerbase what they want and deserve. Final Fantasy has some loyal fans out there that would be very sad if FXIV didn't succeed come 2.0.

Originally posted by Razeekster

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I don't think you know what you're talking about... It is a new engine, SE already stated as much, and I doubt it will fail. SE isn't going to make the same mistake twice after investing such large sums of money into basically recreating the entire game. It's sad that there are so many pessimistic people that can't even be happy when a company realizes that they've made a mistake and so go and build a whole freaking new engine and game to try and fix their mistake. I don't think I've ever seen an MMORPG company do this for any MMORPG that needed it.

These days they just make it F2P and hope that people spend money in their cash shops so they can pay back the investors, so it makes me happy to see that SE isn't going that route but trying to give their playerbase what they want and deserve. Final Fantasy has some loyal fans out there that would be very sad if FXIV didn't succeed come 2.0.

It's not a new engine. End of story. They are patching it into the old engine.. gradually at the moment. Which means it's a modfied version of the same engine, just like patching any other MMO. It might by GREATLY modified, but it's still the same engine.

Originally posted by Vannor

Originally posted by Razeekster

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I don't think you know what you're talking about... It is a new engine, SE already stated as much, and I doubt it will fail. SE isn't going to make the same mistake twice after investing such large sums of money into basically recreating the entire game. It's sad that there are so many pessimistic people that can't even be happy when a company realizes that they've made a mistake and so go and build a whole freaking new engine and game to try and fix their mistake. I don't think I've ever seen an MMORPG company do this for any MMORPG that needed it.

These days they just make it F2P and hope that people spend money in their cash shops so they can pay back the investors, so it makes me happy to see that SE isn't going that route but trying to give their playerbase what they want and deserve. Final Fantasy has some loyal fans out there that would be very sad if FXIV didn't succeed come 2.0.

It's not a new engine. End of story. They are patching it into the old engine.. gradually at the moment. Which means it's a modfied version of the same engine, just like patching any other MMO. It might by GREATLY modified, but it's still the same engine.

Look at wikipedia... It even states it will "incorporate a new graphics engine." Google is an amazing invention. They may be adding in the old engine too, but it is still technically a new engine.