Gear progression works good for a number of reasons:

It makes good players great and it makes great players amazing.

It also allows terrible players through gear grinding to dominate at some level, (dominate the new players leveling up regardless of the new players skill).

In other words it allows everyone regardless of skill to feel powerfull to some extent and thats VERY applealing if you want to attract a wide market, which Anet wants to do.

It provides a progression system that keeps players active in the game.

You take all that away and eventually all your left with is a small group of elite players playing your game, so basically a dismal population.

No matter how much "fun" you think Anet has built into the game it will get old.

And with no progression to keep players moving forward most players will move on.

EDIT: Sorry about the paragragh block the line spacing wont take.

Originally posted by snapfusion

Gear progression works good for a number of reasons:

It makes good players great and it makes great players amazing.

It also allows terrible players through gear grinding to dominate at some level, (dominate the new players leveling up regardless of the new players skill).

In other words it allows everyone regardless of skill to feel powerfull to some extent and thats VERY applealing if you want to attract a wide market, which Anet wants to do.

It provides a progression system that keeps players active in the game.

You take all that away and eventually all your left with is a small group of elite players playing your game, so basically a dismal population.

No matter how much "fun" you think Anet has built into the game it will get old.

And with no progression to keep players moving forward most players will move on.

EDIT: Sorry about the paragragh block the line spacing wont take.

Contrary to what you may have learned in WOW, there's plenty of other ways to progress (or even play a game, for that matter) than pursuing the next tier of armor to wear.

Originally posted by Xzen
GW2 does have progression. It's just not stat progression past max level. You still have content progression. Cosmetic progression. In PvP and PvE you have rank and title progression.

I can't disagree more...

First of all there are many mmos out there which already have this system. Its actually good to have a system that breaks the mold.

Gear progression does not help bring in a wider market. The only folks who are good at the game will be the ones with the best gear so the entry barrier to pvp is brutal unless you were pvping from the very beginning of the games life or someone else gave you gear to use.

In a system like GW2(LoL and fps games also do this) everyone is on the same playing field. Like you mention the difference is some are better then others. How do you deal with this? matchmaking systems. If you utterly suck at pvp, get matched up against others who are your skill level. Its pretty simple really, it also opens the doors for the mass market to enjoy because you don't have to get to a certain point gear wise before you can have fun.

Originally posted by Pandamin

Originally posted by Xzen
GW2 does have progression. It's just not stat progression past max level. You still have content progression. Cosmetic progression. In PvP and PvE you have rank and title progression.

 

Well yes and no, at lvl80 all items have an equal amount of stats. But the rarity level might have the stats distributed in a different way. For example, 50 power 50 vitality 50 toughness can become 70/40/40. The progression is there if you really want to invest the time in it. Or if you want to specialise into a very specific build.

Originally posted by Xzen

Originally posted by Pandamin

Originally posted by Xzen
GW2 does have progression. It's just not stat progression past max level. You still have content progression. Cosmetic progression. In PvP and PvE you have rank and title progression.

 

Well yes and no, at lvl80 all items have an equal amount of stats. But the rarity level might have the stats distributed in a different way. For example, 50 power 50 vitality 50 toughness can become 70/40/40. The progression is there if you really want to invest the time in it. Or if you want to specialise into a very specific build.

 

True in a way. I guess if you want to collect sets with different stat distributions for different builds.

Originally posted by clumsytoes44
Carrot on a stick no thank's. And honestly what game doesn't get boring if it's the only 1 you play?

Originally posted by Purgatus
You mean we as gamers are going to have to play the game for fun, and not progression! (Shudder)

Uhm we have plenty of carrot on a stick failures hanging around, you can pick any of them.

its funny as in Vanilla wow i raided BWL for 8 months to get my bloodfang shoulders with my guild, i dint show up 1 week in that 8 months and the damn shoulders dropped.
Wow today is easy tough, you almost get them mailed in the mailbox or you can ninja them in the raid finder where the scum of the earth live's

That shit aside, we dont need another bad carrot on a stick dipshit mmo.

Guildwars 2 makes sure you have fun playing the game, not chasing a virtual item, and its showing succes also, many people are fed up with gear grinders.
Even Arenanet knows this, thats why they created GW2, to make mmo'rs who are fed up with that shit feel at home.

Skills to pay the bills
Just the way it should be.

Originally posted by snapfusion

Originally posted by clumsytoes44
Carrot on a stick no thank's. And honestly what game doesn't get boring if it's the only 1 you play?

 

You would be amazed at how long someone will play a game they are actually burned out on in the quest for better gear.