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News & Features Discussion  » [Column] World of Warcraft: Should Azeroth be F2P to 60?

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8/16/12 9:08:30 AM#21
I still wouldn't play it. ^^
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8/16/12 9:08:31 AM#22
bc was the best expansion .this game doesnot appeal to me now :((((
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8/16/12 9:09:39 AM#23
Originally posted by bfpiercelk
Originally posted by purewitz
WOW needs to either go F2P or die a slow painful death. As much as some people may not want it, F2P  & B2P are becoming the standards of MMO business models. P2P is going going the way of the dinosaurs. In the beginning P2P saved people from having to pay by the hour to play a game, but people don't want to pay a monthly subscription any more in today's world economy. Alot of people also don't want to throw away money on something they might not like, because they don't have the money to lose.


There are nearly 10 million subscribers to WoW alone, not counting the number of people that still pay subs to LotRO, TOR, and others.

I hope you're not an analyst, because you are terribad at it.


less than 10 million to be precise


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8/16/12 9:15:26 AM#24

9.1 million players, not subs.
Asia do not pay subs, they pay 1 cent per hour.
over half the population is from asia.


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8/16/12 9:27:39 AM#25
WoW should shift to a free to play model after Panda. It is the only way for the game to survive long-term. 

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8/16/12 9:30:29 AM#26

Originally posted by sammandar

Originally posted by lizardbones Given that buying four expansions is going to cost something like $100 or more, it certainly wouldn't hurt them to get people into the game and playing through a lot of content for free. I would think that initial cost is a huge hurdle to get people to jump over.
I don't agree with that logic though. Why would F2P 1-60 get people in if the F2P 1-20 hasn't already. It reminds me a bit of SWTOR devs, who believed that their payment model was the reason they were losing so many subs, when in fact it was the lack of content and poorly executed game as whole, amongst other things.

Case in point, I think WOW is just getting "old"; as the years pass by I believe it is getting harder and harder for more players to justify paying 15 bucks of month for what WOW has to offer; especialy in a market where more games are switching over to a hybrid B2P/F2P model.

Though I do expect MoP to bump WOW's numbers a bit, I don't think it will stop the "bleeding". Not only do I think that MoP will be the worst selling WOW expansion since "Vanilla", but I think that shortly after MoP releases, WOW's numbers will continue to sink.

In lieu of the continual loss of subs, Blizzard may very well experiment with a hybrid payment model for WOW, but I don't think that will solve the problem. If Blizzard wants to stop the bleeding, instead of just throwing out more of the same (MoP) or changing their payment model, they need to do some major content and gameplay restructuring. Question is... is it too late.

It's a time investment. Getting to level 20 takes a very short period of time. Getting to level 60 takes a good bit longer. It increases the amount of time to get familiar with game systems, game lore and more time to get to know people in the game. Granted, getting to know people in the game is a double edged sword, but for the most part, I liked the people I played with in WoW. People who are more invested are more likely to continue playing the game past level 60, especially if they know other people who are going to do the same.

Your last sentence is the reason they'll be pressured to do something to get people into the game. They are finally starting to lose a substantial number of long term players. They need to get more people into the game and lots of free content is a way to get that done.

For every large, complex problem, there is a simple, clear solution that also happens to be absolutely wrong.


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8/16/12 9:31:13 AM#27

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8/16/12 9:58:48 AM#28

The starter edition is nothing more than a free trail.  It is so limited that nobody can actually play it.  Blizzard already gives away vanilla and BC when you buy the Northrend expansion.

Given all that it really wouldn't hurt Blizzard to open up all of the vanilla and BC content to a F2P model.  However, it will dump a ton of asshats into Azeroth that the players will have to deal with.  Although, WoW already has the loin's share of asshats.


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8/16/12 9:59:59 AM#29

The battle chest deals are generally a good deal, but a battle chest plus latest xpac plus a sub does add up. I think there is one single thing they could offer to bring people back, and that's a 1-80 auto-level (like you get with a scroll of rez) for $10 or the price of a one month sub.


It just takes too long to level a toon anymore and if you've seen the content already a dozen times, you really don't want to do it again. If they offered a level-up option to 80 (enough to learn to play the toon from 80-85 in Cata content), I would be interested.


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8/16/12 10:54:49 AM#30
though it could help blizzard make money, imo i'd say no.. no trolls please..F2P= more scammers,more spammer, and trolls..

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8/16/12 10:59:31 AM#31
I actually would like to see this. Although I'm subscribed, I would actually make another f2p account and treat it as WoW Vanilla if it went upto 60. Go on onyxia and bwl raids all the time :) As long as it wasn't restricted, which thanks to goldsellers and stuff, it'll have to be :(


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8/16/12 11:00:56 AM#32
I just bought the Battle Chest, ROTLK and Cataclysm for 20 bucks. Think that would be incentive enough for someone to try it out I would think.
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8/16/12 11:02:13 AM#33
It's all god damn GW2's fault. lol

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8/16/12 11:03:38 AM#34
Originally posted by palulalula
Only over my dead body! Dude are you ok? You want trolls like me to contaminate Azeroth?? No F2P for wow!. F2P is for weak


^ This guy plays wow, can't you tell?

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8/16/12 11:05:08 AM#35
Another day another ass kicking served up by guild wars 2. You better be scared!

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8/16/12 11:06:16 AM#36
Originally posted by Lumbrales
I still wouldn't play it. ^^


Listen to this guy he knows stuff.

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8/16/12 12:03:30 PM#37
No, but if their population begins to tank then they should look into Buy-To-Play models.

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8/16/12 12:31:22 PM#38
Is anyone else still surprised they have the player numbers they have now? I mean this is a game that launched in 2004... I feel like there's much better games out there now, but I guess some people really love it or something (well the Western market doesn't even count for half of the subscriptions so we know that the West is getting tired of it).


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8/16/12 12:34:10 PM#39
I think that given the fact that the sub money does nothing to improve the game, it's only there to line the pockets of Ghostcrawler and his crew, and the fact that new content only comes from expensive (even at this point) and lacking in content expansions (yes i played the beta) it should have turned into a B2P model YEARS ago. Freemium is never a good model and would only hurt it futher.

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8/16/12 12:38:52 PM#40
Originally posted by lizardbones

Given that buying four expansions is going to cost something like $100 or more, it certainly wouldn't hurt them to get people into the game and playing through a lot of content for free. I would think that initial cost is a huge hurdle to get people to jump over.

You can grab all of the games at Amazon for under $50, add in $40 for MoP and you are still under your $100.


Also, you assume people are going to buy the entire cataloge at one time. 

That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!

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