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  Dragonantis

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8/15/12 4:23:55 AM#41
Anet blinked first with a release date, allowing Blizzard to counter them. But I dont see this having a major effect on GW2, that patch event in wow will last until the release of MoP, plenty of time for ppl to try and leave again to GW2 or vice versa.
  VirgoThree

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8/15/12 4:30:41 AM#42
Originally posted by Skyline2512
[mod edit]

This is like a guy going into a stadium yelling at everyone for enjoying sports.

The only difference here is that he won't get his assed kicked.

  Tridian

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8/15/12 5:56:29 AM#43
Originally posted by BillMurphy
There's actually a surprising amount of good in this expansion, but WoW is getting old. There's no denying that. Still, it's a really excellent slew of content for its fans. I'll be checking it out.

I keep hearing that it has some great stuff in the next xpac. Not sure if its enough to drag me back though. I enjoyed the faction pvp, but now the horde and allies are more like acquaintances
 

  tawess

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8/15/12 5:56:44 AM#44
Originally posted by Mothanos

More contend you payed with 10months of getting nothing + a full xpac price = around 160 euro !!! damn you must be happy with Blizzard awesome contend ?
How long till you rush to 90 ? 1 day ? then getting those same purple shit mailed to you in the mailbox so you can stand in Stormwind ? !!! ? :D

Have fun again rofl :) !

Now tell me... on this chart here were did the evil game touch you. You do know righ that not every one rush to 90, a decent bunch of people actually enjoy the story of the game too. As for standing around in Stormwind.. that did always happen (apart from the "standing at a meeting stone" part of the game) because it was a lot easier to form a group at the main social hubs then knee deep in Ogres up in alterak Valley. People have just forgoten about it and blame the "new stuff" for it.. because new stuff is evil... But i applaude you for not doing something you do not find fun any more, just don't be a troglodyte and spew stuff you have no real concept of.

Tomas Soapbox

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  Nanfoodle

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8/15/12 7:01:05 AM#45
Good business plan by Blizzard. They have been on the ball with this over the years. Every game that has a good following Blizzard is right there with new content around that release. I am sure it will save them some customers but its not going to stop GW2. I am sure it will have 2-5 mill active players by the end of its first year. Not saying box sales, I mean active players.
  Istavaan

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8/15/12 7:03:59 AM#46
Well most of us will be playing guild wars 2 on the 25th :)
  User Deleted
8/15/12 7:29:31 AM#47
Won't be going back to wow until I'm eligible for some free crap. Probably, well maybe in January, by then GW2 will have spoiled me though and going back to wow is going to feel lamo, but I'm at least going to give it a try.
  Mothanos

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8/15/12 7:29:39 AM#48

The Evil game touched many people who where left to rot for years on death servers.

They will pay for that mistake very soon.

 

There are many bitter wow players like me who feel used and abused by blizzards design choices and lack of assistance for those death realms.

 

Blizzard dumbed down the game so much that you cant even try a heroic raid before it gets nerfed into the ground.

 

Dunno where you play Tawess, but for the most part EU servers are death, like 70% is low, no FCM for those realms.

And i find it funny Blizzard thinks they can conqeur EU with MoP while neglecting a 170 page thread about death servers is neglected :P

 

Kinda feels like revenge ? payback ? I always believed in Blizzard, but damn Cataclysm ,D3 and MoP are so bad i wont ever touch a Blizzard game again.

In the timeframe of 1.5 year they have damaged their brand name in a very shamefull way.

 

Maybe you can understand now why so many people hate on Blizzard :)

 

 

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  tawess

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8/15/12 7:34:40 AM#49

Honestly i do not see any real competition between GW2 and WoW in US and Euro, if you paid by the day then maybe but people will pay their monthly sub and then play as much as they care, and then they will play any other game, and since GW2 does not have a sub it fit the bill.

 

That being said i think WoW will drop subs down to about 6-7 mil subs before the drop pans out... Even after the MoP boost, why... Because the game is old. It have held up better then any other game this old (that have a subscription)

As for the question... I play on Kilrogg(one of the smallest servers in the Eu park) and i do not see what you are talking about. Less players.. ofc especially as we are in the pre expansion lull... But dead, that i have yet to see.

Tomas Soapbox

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  tawess

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8/15/12 7:40:08 AM#50

and i can not say i see all that many people hate on Blizzard, i see a lot of MMORPG users hate on Blizzard.. but that is a small part of the 2-3 % that are active on a forum.

 

And if my edit did not work (it happens some tiomes) I play on Kilrogg-Eu... And it still seems to be a very livley server last time i checked.. even for a pre-expansion period.

Tomas Soapbox

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  Mothanos

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8/15/12 7:45:27 AM#51

Glad to see we have a diffrent opinion on that case.

Some people dont want to pay 60 euro + 13 euro a month ! they check what games they want to sub to or invest time in.

The people who are in doubt of what to do is what Anets and blizzard is targeting as most GW2 fans already bought GW2 and most WoW fans already bought Anual Pass or MoP.

 

What is left is potantial players who dint buy either yet, i seriously doubt people have time to play 2 mmo's at a time also :P 

When i play a game (mmo or FPS or whatever) i invest many hours in it untill iam fed up or a new game comes around.

In mmo's its the same, you invest many amny hours in your character and when your done with that character you reroll or quit.

Many players are fed up with WoW and this is where GW2 have a big potantial of plaers to gain and wow can only lose as far as i can see.

 

 

My gues after player wow in Cataclysm and looking at the server list WoW EU has around 600/800k players left.

128 servers excist atm

12/14 servers are full

20/30 are medium

and 70 are empty/death

 

Dunno how USA statistics are in servers, but i gues its almost the same situation.

So i can understand why Blizzard is taking GW2 on with alot of aggresion, they have alot to lose and a little to gain.

 

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  BillMurphy

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8/15/12 7:45:34 AM#52
Originally posted by observer
Originally posted by BillMurphy
There's actually a surprising amount of good in this expansion, but WoW is getting old. There's no denying that. Still, it's a really excellent slew of content for its fans. I'll be checking it out.

New content for sure, but in my opinion, Blizzard went too far with this patch.  The revamped talents and skills was too radical.  You should write an article on that. :p

This week we'll be talking about why WoW should be F2P to 60 by now.  I'll save the talent and skill overhaul for a later date (the goods and bads).

  User Deleted
8/15/12 7:48:33 AM#53
Lol speaking of death servers I logged into my home server last night, there was literally 5 people in orgrimmar, today was going to be my farewell to wow since my sub is up tonight, then GW2 offered up another stress test so I guess last night could have been my last. The server I typically play on is loaded with people though, just my home server was dead.
  Mothanos

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8/15/12 7:55:54 AM#54

Most my chars are on EU vanilla servers, the only server that had a healty population of those 6 was Stormscale, but i dint play there since TBC :P
At the other 5 servers i have 85's on the guys had monopoly in the AH selling blue gems for over 500 gold and glyphs for 800 gold and higher lol.


Toll Barad was 3 versus 2 -_-
between 5 and 15 people online in Ogri or Stormwind :P

its heartbreaking Blizzard dint do anything but taking people's money to transfer off and let all those servers to die and rot.

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  Loke666

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8/15/12 7:57:29 AM#55
Originally posted by gr0und3d
Originally posted by Coolit

No surprise on the date, saw it coming a mile.

What would be interesting is if ArenaNet pull a double whammy and release the first major content patch for GW2 on the 25th of September. Not really sure why Blizzard are trying to compete with a b2p game anyway, how can you compete when you're not fighting over subs?

Who says they are?  MoP release date was published before GW2 release date was known.  They are applying the pre-expansion patch 1 month before expansion release date.  Obviously timed perfectly for a B2p game and not their own company strategy that has been proven over years of releases.....

Blizz2004:  "I bet we should release content for the next 8 years in Q4 so we can keep GW2 from stealing our customers"

I dunno, ANET showed the game on gamesCon late August 2010 and are releasing the game one week after GamesCon 2012. To me it seems like ANET have known this date for a long time but didn´t officially go out with it until they were 100% sure they actually could deliver on it.

I think Blizz indeed are at least somewhat worried about GW2, they do know many of people who are making it and the first lead designer of the game, Strain, is among many considered one of the best people that ever worked on Blizzard. Not being worried would be stupid and Blizzard ain´t stupid.

GW2 is releasing just the wrong time, Wow is getting old and Titan & Wow 2 aint ready for launch for a long time (I assume they are working on Wow2) yet. It is the perfect time to leech players from Wow.

Now, GW2 is not really trying to do that, it offers a different focus while you play than Wow and have a payment model that allows you to play 2 without feeling like you waste too much money but at least some people will move totally due to limited time and it is as I said not a perfect time for Blizz to have a large and dangerous competitor.

  Silverthorn8

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8/15/12 7:58:43 AM#56

Actually I did decide to delay getting GW2 for a few months, maybe even waiting till the christmas break. I figured to give myself a few months to get bored with the whole new wow expansion BS.

This happens every time blizz launch a new expack, I tend to focus on professions while they re-tune dungeons end raids, then hop on after they are nerfed into the ground. If I don't do this then, unlike most of the dipsticks that play the game I'll spend the last six months of the expansion wandering around stormwind (or whatever the new hub is) scratching my arse.

  Mothanos

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8/15/12 8:05:24 AM#57

hey Loke ! where did you get the info from WoW 2 ? as far as i know Blizzard have said (with a straight face) they wont ever create a WoW2.
Only info i have is that Titan is a FPS like mmo, but this info was long time ago also :P


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  Loke666

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8/15/12 8:12:18 AM#58
Originally posted by Mothanos

hey Loke ! where did you get the info from WoW 2 ? as far as i know Blizzard have said (with a straight face) they wont ever create a WoW2.
Only info i have is that Titan is a FPS like mmo, but this info was long time ago also :P

Every game Blizzard made since 1995 have either been a sequel or had one besides Wow + Wow is Blizzards most successful game ever + Activision love money = Wow2.

That equation is a no brainer no matter what Blizz say. They can´t leak too much about it now because it could hurt Wows number of subs. Wow 2 will come, I am willing to bet money on the fact that Blizz have a smaller team working on it right now, and they will introduce it officially a year aafter Titans launch (or 6 months if Titan flops to calm the stockholders).

Then again, knowing Blizzard, Wow 2 wont be ready for release until 2016-2018 unless Titan flops and Activision force them to hurry things up.

  tawess

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8/15/12 8:26:25 AM#59
Originally posted by Mothanos

Most my chars are on EU vanilla servers, the only server that had a healty population of those 6 was Stormscale, but i dint play there since TBC :P
At the other 5 servers i have 85's on the guys had monopoly in the AH selling blue gems for over 500 gold and glyphs for 800 gold and higher lol.


Toll Barad was 3 versus 2 -_-
between 5 and 15 people online in Ogri or Stormwind :P

its heartbreaking Blizzard dint do anything but taking people's money to transfer off and let all those servers to die and rot.

Then you must have been as happy as i was for the cluster-tech they introduced to BG, Dungeons and raids (and that will be put in to leveling zones too.) as it did dull the impact of living on such a server had.

 

Thing is that Blizzard very rarley transfer people off "dying" servers as they feel it makes the problem worse, rather they try to move people to "dying" servers from servers that have to many people.  And you always have the option to move on your own. (costly i know but it is a option)

Just to sate my curiosity, what server was/is your main server..? Youmentioned that you used to reside on swescale  but moved on...

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  palulalula

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8/15/12 8:49:36 AM#60
[mod edit]  It was never ever something made to counter gw, even a first part. If you ask child in any region of the world they know what is wow. But if you ask about guild wars they will just shake their heads and ask what for heaven that is
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