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News & Features Discussion  » Vanguard: Saga of Heroes: F2P Version Officially Launches

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  AI724

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Joined: 7/30/08
Posts: 200

8/14/12 1:20:47 PM#21
Originally posted by Nanfoodle

You obviously don't go out a lot. Going out to eat for dinner cost around 10$. A movie is 10$. A cup of starbucks is 5$... 4-7$ a month a month can beg for more money in 1 hour than that. 

 

Its called market value, I make a cup of coffee at home for $0.20 but I am willing to goto a coffee shop for 2 bucks. I could afford 5-10 bucks for a cup of coffee every day but I am not willing to pay it. Why? Because I can get value for my money for 2-5 bucks at the local coffee shop. DDO and GW1 has proved they can make lots of money and make enough content to make customers happy with a average of 4-7 bucks a month from customers.

I have been playing GW2 and its as quality as an MMO can get. I am having bucks of fun in PvE and WvW. So why would I jump ship to play an older game and pay more? Market value of Vanguard is F2P but not as SoE has it set up. Make it really free to play or charge 4-6 bucks a month.

I like how you see things....... know the value of hard earn money! 

  Dreamion

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Joined: 6/13/07
Posts: 282

8/14/12 1:22:53 PM#22

After I had played WoW for a couple years, the time i went to try Vanguard I felt that feeling you got when you fired up your first MMO, big world, so much things to do, you just want to explore and do all kind of things, crafting for a couple of days because it's pretty complex and fun! doing some dungeons that could take hours to complete, while having a nice and mature group, it really felt good. Don't know if I'll be playing that much though.

  finnmacool1

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Joined: 5/11/06
Posts: 482

8/14/12 1:37:59 PM#23

They fixed no bugs since ftli announcement,they actually addded a ton more. Performance is worse since ftli announcement. The matrix is still horrible. It truly is launch day part 2,just sit back and watch what new faces try it dwindle away.

Vg may have had more content (mostly broken) at release but to say this game has near what another 5 year old game has is ludicrous. Crafting and diplomacy have 2-3 questlines and the rest is grinding. 1-50 take less than a month casual play, and everbody does the same content 51-55. Aside from being able to level multiple chars 1-50 in different areas,content isnt a positive for this game.

As far as deeper gameplay,its no "deeper" than eq1,eq2,or even wow. 99% of the quests are kill,collect,or deliver. You have your hand held from quest hub to quest hub via rifts.

  User Deleted
8/14/12 1:39:01 PM#24
GW2 will be just as niche as Vangurad in 5 years.  The game wont attract the masses in the long run it will sell millions  but it will never sustain the playerbase because of the nature of what GW2 is.  I loved the beta and the combat is fun, but to say you need skill is overreaching.
  finnmacool1

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Joined: 5/11/06
Posts: 482

8/14/12 1:40:33 PM#25
double post grr
  Newmoon

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Joined: 1/10/06
Posts: 127

8/14/12 2:15:59 PM#26

 If $15 a month wasn't enough to notice falling out of your wallet, Vanguard would have had a much larger sub base. Simply put, they don't. Making the gear sub restricted is STUPID. Slot unlocks, class unlocks, these were expected, and encouraged. Bag unlocks, yep. But gear??

Worse, individual gear, not entire tier unlocks. LOTRO does it right. Aion has forever free done reallllly right (of course, they have GW2 coming out around the corner to pay for it, even if the cash shop doesn't).

  Too many restrictions on f2p players kills it for them. Players like to play games with decent populations. Having a cash restriction on f2p even deeper than Korean grind f2p MMOs? Worse than rent-it-for-a-month Nexon?

  Crafted items should never be in a cash shop. I don't care about the base sets available (level 11). High end carpenter house items?? NEVER. Making sure that much of the crafter gear cannot be used by f2p crowd? That's gimping the market for crafters- most of whom are paying a sub.

  Newmoon

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Joined: 1/10/06
Posts: 127

8/14/12 2:18:58 PM#27
PS. I'd wait a few more days before trying to play, unless you start in a real racial area. The Island of Dawn is seriously lagtastic and unstable. Khal (one of the main cities) has been unstable for a couple weeks now (and you lose combines if the chunk crashes mid-craft).

  Xthos

Novice Member

Joined: 4/18/10
Posts: 2650

8/14/12 2:30:06 PM#28

I really liked Vanguard, left when they announced they wouldn't support PvP anymore, and the server died from people leaving and getting ready for AoC...Hated to have a part of the game taken away, when they closed it and were making people transfer to PvE.

 

I may load it back up, never did the trial island though.

 

  gaeanprayer

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Joined: 8/06/08
Posts: 2360

8/14/12 2:40:48 PM#29
I'm gonna jump in ;o I never got to play it and would like to add it to the resume. Hopefully it doesn't end up in the 'games I got bored of quickly' pile like everything else SoE has ever done.

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  Nasa

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Joined: 10/21/04
Posts: 326

8/14/12 2:44:36 PM#30
I watched the trailer and the game just looked too old for me.
  Kniknax

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Joined: 12/01/05
Posts: 560

8/14/12 3:02:21 PM#31
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by William12
Maybe when you lack content like GW2 does :)  Vanguard is HUGE easily 30 dungeons in the game between level 8 and 55 maybe more.   

GW2 has 8 dungeons with 3 different paths you can take, so its really 24 at launch and the promis of much more to come.

Paths? Where we're going, we don't need paths!  

 

"When people don't know much about something, they tend to fill in the blanks the way they want them to be filled in. They are almost always disappointed." - Will Wright

  Lukain

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Joined: 4/23/06
Posts: 592

8/14/12 3:08:33 PM#32

I was thinking of trying this game again untill I read the limitations  the FTP model is just to restricting ..

 

 

  Ridrith

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Joined: 7/11/08
Posts: 306

8/14/12 3:12:00 PM#33
If this was back in 2007 I might care, not anymore sadly.
  TweFoju

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Joined: 6/27/09
Posts: 965

8/14/12 3:28:28 PM#34
at least now i know what to play until 28th of August...

So What Now?

  User Deleted
8/14/12 4:07:29 PM#35
Tried it out again, and its kind of boring. Standard kill 10 rats adventuring, slow repetitive combat, unncesarily complex crafting, bad graphics. BAck to waiting for GW2 and PS2.
  Aeolron

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Joined: 3/24/11
Posts: 664

Everyones a mmo vet these days :P

8/14/12 4:40:16 PM#36
Vanguard is still worth 15 a month , the reason why gw1 was free because it was NOT a mmo more like a single player online game with some co op and it was Terrible and ddo was borderline mmo it went free to play because it bombed so hard. I know gw2 is like night and day better than most mmorpgs out and it beats the snot outta gw1 , I can't wait , but saying paying 15 a month for vanguard when you get the game for free and you have tons and tons of content is just a stupid comment. I myself stopped playing vanguard because the dev team left or are working with a skeleton crew, but the second they add a expac I am back . You simply cannot justify the game based on 15 a month, hell I would be ok paying 20-30 a month if it weeded out all these little kids.
  Aeolron

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Everyones a mmo vet these days :P

8/14/12 4:41:38 PM#37
Just curious would you guys be saying how wonderful gw2 is if it ran you box price +sub+ cash shop? I don't think so, you guys are cheap :p lol
  Fadedbomb

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8/14/12 4:45:00 PM#38
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
SoE F2P is not free enough. Unless they move to a model like GW2 I wont try it. 15 bucks a month for all content is still a rip off in today market. 

Guildwars 2 was developed around the idea of milking the players for content each year with an expansion (most likely yearly now since they have a cash-shop to support them between each expansion).

 

I agree that games that already have cash-shops should use GW2's model, but a FLAT rate of $15/month without a cash-shop is still far superior.

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  Aeolron

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Everyones a mmo vet these days :P

8/14/12 4:49:26 PM#39
I also do not believe gw2 will be a niche game , I know afew people who hate fantasy games but all have said how awesome gw2 looks and plays, as one person put it , " easy to get into , and open world to explore" so yeah niche game nah.
  MrJones77

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Joined: 8/09/12
Posts: 17

8/14/12 4:59:49 PM#40
This is good news. I have always wanted to go back to visit Telon.
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