Originally posted by Laughing-man

Originally posted by Wraithone

Originally posted by Laughing-man

FIRST off Wraith, its called "Resolve" not Stamina, Stamina is already in the game.

http://tera.enmasse.com/the-argon-queen/new-skills

Secondly Lancer is getting some ability love, they NEEDED a backstep and the knock down they are getting is just a wonderful bonus.

Third, this is mostly to make it so warriors have a resource to block with that can be weighted against lancers, making warriors block less effective than lancers was needed, and the way they did that was give both tanking classes a new resource from which to draw upon, making lancer's block consume LESS of said resource, balancing the two.  

In short, I disagree with every single thing you said Wraithone.  Mostly because none of it is based in the realm of reality.

 

You might also look at the "block better"... How is limiting what lancers can already do, and have been doing since the game started in Korea, "better"?  So its "resolve" now? Fine, I stand corrected.  That doesn't change the fact that its a "solution" in search of a problem.  As for making lancers less effective at blocking being "needed" , by whose perspective? Warriors? No conflict of interest there... ^^ DOES it make them less effective?  That remains to be seen chicken little.  You do realize that blocking currently drains their MANA right?  Just checking.

So lancers can block a few *seconds* longer than warriors? So what? That is supposed to make up for such a drastic change in the core dynamic of the class?  The REALITY is that lancers as a class were doing just fine in the role for which they had been created. Tanking. They had the best defense in the game, and if played well made the best main tanks.   We have no details on how long a warrior can block vs a lancer, I'm sure a lancer can block longer, perhaps significantly longer.  What if this happens, what if Lancer's block is weighed against how it functions now with the average Lancer's MP, making it so that the change was nearly unfelt by lancers.  You are speculating far too much bucko.

One of the reasons that there is a tank shortage is due to the grind of getting one to level 60.  Having a level 60 myself, I'm painfully aware of that. But one of the other reasons is that tanking in general is a thankless task, and doing it well takes focus, experience and patience.  You can disagree with reality all you wish. Reality has demonstrated that it is no respecter of ideology. ^^   There is an instant queue for healers most of the time I queue on my 60 mystic, however I have had to wait a bit now queueing up as my 60 lancer.   So I question your logic and your statistics.  Reality seems to be something you are making up as you go along.

 

You might wish to examine this video of the new changes to the lancer system. Notice that its titled stamina? Hence my use of the term.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gBSPq7Ov5w&feature=g-vrec

Notice the damage the lancer is taking? Much of that would have been mitigated under the old system, because they would have been able to block more. As I've mentioned in some of my posts, not everyone is good at timing attacks. This puts additional drain on the healers focus and mana.  Some of the new abilities look useful, but they could have been added without changing the block system.  I suspect this is going to make the current tanking shortage even worse. But only time will tell. 

Originally posted by Wraithone

Originally posted by lustbust

Originally posted by Wraithone
When/If Lineage3 ever shows up, its likely to be as PvP centric as the first two have been. That means it will be a niche market at best in the west.  As for the various claims that the TERA Dev's some how "stole" Lineage 3 IP from NCsoft, that remains to demonstrated. 

Tera went from 37 servers down to 4 in korea..please talk more about niche audience.Blade & Soul tore this game a new 1 and if people arent playing in korea you can kiss your character goodbye because they sure as hell wont be making expansions just for the west.

Lineage 2 is actually not as pvp centric as you would think.Many who play it do simply for the PVE.

Like already mentioned above, if you read the court documents you can see all the proof you need that lots of Lineage 3 content was stolen and is used in Tera.For somebody who wants to mouth off about pvp you really arent good at forum pvp.

Linage2 isn't PvP centric? You have a rather odd definition of what PvP is, and isn't... ^^ As for the dispute between Blue Hole Studios and NCsoft, I suggest you examine the entire affair, and not just NCsofts press releases... The documents in question are in Korean, so I'll see if some friends of mine over there can translate them for me.

 But BHS is still in business and still running TERA in both Korea and elsewhere, so I suspect it didn't go NCsofts way... Just like their loss of 23 million or so to Richard Garret (AKA Lord/General British) in their last go around (over their antics after Tabula Rasa).  NCsoft has quite the "interesting" history, if one examines the details, and doesn't just read their press releases. 

As for TERA in Korea, that doesn't really surprise me. It has its good aspects, but what really attracted me was the active combat system. Not to mention the female Castanic armor. ^^  The graphics are quite nice, but the over all game needs more polish. But the client has been quite stable, and thats more than I can say for many games.  You might wish to take your own advise, and brush up on details yourself. 

 

lineage 2 does have a very hardcore pvp group but just as many people who play are carebear and strictly there for the pve so really the game is not pvp centric at all it simply has a great pvp system for those that want it.I played Tera and i have been excited for this patch but i really cant justify supporting it when its the reason there is no lineage 3. Dont need any lawyers to prove anything to me i just look at the ripped conceptual artwork and i have all the proof i need.

Who? Why should I care?

This game looks as boring as the day it released.

I'll give Tera credit for one thing: the team that did their north american localization was extremely customer-friendly. However, the game was an absolute dog to play.

En-Masse still hasn't fixed their CheckSum Errors(besides a generic support topic) that been happening since Launch (February) and the issue is coming up once again for players now. So those who go to download the game may have to re-download a whole day or two's worth of a heavy GB all over again.

Also Nexus was horribly laggy and much bleeding from the servers(I question exactly what servers are being used to host this game to cause such lag) last time. A lag-spike would occur when Nexus was turned on across the servers.

Battle-Grounds may simply won't be enough to pull TERA out of it's slowly slumping medicore grind entertainment. It's a game that tells players "hit level 60 and that's where the fun begans".

GW2 says fun begans when you first log into the game.

I have three level 60's (Lancer, Slayer, Warrior) and I'm still waiting for the end game fun... ^^ I also have a level 33 Berzerker and a level 34 Archer. After the major changes to the lancer class, I've ended my sub. I like the new abilities, but they do not make up for the major change in the block dynamic.  

The additional abilities for warrior are also good, but I question how effective they will be as tanks, compared to lancers.  I also note that lancer was nerfed to make warrior more competitive. 

Anyone else notice that the block ability text on warrior weapons, is a cut and paste from the berzerkers axes?  ^^  Its that lack of attention to detail, and cut corners that has kept the game from being better. Oh well, on to the next game. 

Lineage 1 is still the 3rd most played MMO in Korea, only behind blade&soul(1st) and Aion(2nd) - note: those games are P2P in east.

I'm sure that when Lineage Eternal releases(it is the sequel to Lineage 1, 200 years later, while L2 is a prequel to L1, 150 years ago), it will become the next king in Korea. TERA is currently in 6th, and WoW in 5th, sometimes WoW goes to 6th and Tera 5th.