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8/13/12 8:26:00 AM#81
Originally posted by Vesavius
 

lol no, not in terms of whether individuals connect with them and enjoy them more or less.

You really don't understand what's being said to you here?

I've met quite a few people like that in "real life" too. Some people think they just hold the ultimate wisdom about music (or any other art from, including video games). Everything they don't like is obviously sub-par crap and the persons listening to it can only be inferior beings.

  Icewhite

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8/13/12 8:32:43 AM#82
Originally posted by Meowhead
Originally posted by otinanai123

Do gw2 fans really think gw2 music comes even close to this? be honest.

 ... so if people think it does, or is better, are you going to accuse them of being dishonest?

According to a recent thread, music officially died in 1970.  Just blame it all on the general decline, and you too can be an amateur art critic. 

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  Caliburn101

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8/13/12 8:52:37 AM#83
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by Meowhead
Originally posted by otinanai123

Do gw2 fans really think gw2 music comes even close to this? be honest.

 ... so if people think it does, or is better, are you going to accuse them of being dishonest?

According to a recent thread, music officially died in 1970.  Just blame it all on the general decline, and you too can be an amateur art critic. 

No job requirements, no skills required.  But you don't read them; you weigh them.

Oh no - it didn't die - it waited for the Olympics opening and closing ceremonies and the turned out all wrinkly and out of tune.... ;)

  IPolygon

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8/13/12 10:19:52 AM#84
Everytime I hear the soundtrack of GW1 my mind is flushed with good memories of the game. I bet this will be the same for GW2. Jeremy is legendary.
  AzurePrower

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OP  8/13/12 10:21:04 AM#85


Originally posted by colddog04

Originally posted by AzurePrower  

Originally posted by Meowhead

Originally posted by otinanai123 Do gw2 fans really think gw2 music comes even close to this? be honest.
 ... so if people think it does, or is better, are you going to accuse them of being dishonest?   It's like people here are unfamiliar with the concept 'taste in music' I mean, there are whole RADIO stations dedicated to types of music most people dislike. :)
Taste in music usually applies when it comes to different genres. These are in the same genre and are comparable.
Taste can vary greatly within a genre.

Which is the better MMORPG out of WoW, TSW, SWTOR and GW2?

  BadSpock

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8/13/12 10:23:23 AM#86
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by Vesavius
 

lol no, not in terms of whether individuals connect with them and enjoy them more or less.

You really don't understand what's being said to you here?

I've met quite a few people like that in "real life" too. Some people think they just hold the ultimate wisdom about music (or any other art from, including video games). Everything they don't like is obviously sub-par crap and the persons listening to it can only be inferior beings.

To be fair there are concrete definitions of musical quality and complexity established long, long ago by professional musicians and visionaries in the classical era.

The "decently good" music of today is based upon the concrete rules and foundations established by their predecessors.

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  lilHeala

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8/13/12 10:28:13 AM#87

This is very much down to personal preference indeed. Personally I love the music both the theme and other (in-game) music and think it fits the game well.

Oh and I do love horns, it has for example been my main healing instrument on minstrel in LOTRO ever since they added it and I also jammed a bit with it using the in-game music system :)

 

 

  elocke

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8/13/12 10:40:18 AM#88
GW2 music is FANTASTIC.  However, I'm a huge classical music fan so I'm biased toward that style.  I love WoW music too, but Jeremy Soule is a step above everyone else.  The man's compositions would fit in the days of Tchaikovsky, Rimsky Korsakov, Wagner and so on.  It's genius.  Granted, it's not as grandstaging in style as say, John Williams, it's a more laid back, quiet atmospheric style. But he does ramp it up during combat and story scenes in GW2, much more so than in GW1.  He has definitely grown and gotten better as a video game composer.  I think GW2 and Skyrim are his best efforts yet and he'll only get better as he gets older, can't wait to hear more from him.

  AlBQuirky

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8/13/12 10:41:48 AM#89


Originally posted by colddog04
This idea that everything has to be memorable to be good doesn't mesh well with the way I tend to critique music. Elvis is memorable, but I'm not really a big fan of his music. I'm just not sure that saying something is "forgettable" really does a whole lot to describe why you might not like something.

I tend agree. So I offer this UN-forgettable tune :)

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  SuprGamerX

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8/13/12 10:42:36 AM#90
 lol , honestly , I don't know any gamer that listens to in game music , they all put songs from their favorite artitst and game for hours while rocking.    Again , music is of no concern when it comes to gaming.  Just like graphics , but we're talking about sound. 
  korent1991

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8/13/12 10:45:58 AM#91

the soundtracks are simillar to GW1, but it brings refreshment and sounds a bit different... I really like the soundtracks (almost all of them).

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  elocke

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8/13/12 10:47:42 AM#92
Originally posted by The_Korrigan

This is just completely epic:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAOe-WNiQLY

"I am Norn, Hunter of the Wild!". Brrr!

This said, I remember the first time I entered Stormwind with a newbie human... you pass the huge gates, walk between the huge statues, and you have that music:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYidb1LvMs8

By the way, do you know who is doing the Mists of Pandaria music? Jeremy Soule... =P

Wait, what?!!!  You sure Jeremy Soule is doing MoP music?  Link please.

  Xzen

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8/13/12 10:51:34 AM#93
I think GW2 music is on the high quality end of the scale. I probably will not mute it like I do with most mmorpgs. I might have it turned way down though.
  User Deleted
8/13/12 10:56:39 AM#94
Originally posted by elocke
Originally posted by The_Korrigan

This is just completely epic:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAOe-WNiQLY

"I am Norn, Hunter of the Wild!". Brrr!

This said, I remember the first time I entered Stormwind with a newbie human... you pass the huge gates, walk between the huge statues, and you have that music:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYidb1LvMs8

By the way, do you know who is doing the Mists of Pandaria music? Jeremy Soule... =P

Wait, what?!!!  You sure Jeremy Soule is doing MoP music?  Link please.

http://www.wowpedia.org/Jeremy_Soule

Also, just search google for "Pandaria Jeremy Soule" and you'll find some of the tunes.

  botrytis

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8/13/12 10:56:47 AM#95
Originally posted by SuprGamerX
 lol , honestly , I don't know any gamer that listens to in game music , they all put songs from their favorite artitst and game for hours while rocking.    Again , music is of no concern when it comes to gaming.  Just like graphics , but we're talking about sound. 

I did in GW1 because it really set the mood for the various areas of the game.

 

I will also listen in GW2 because it is part of the experience of the game.


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  fub01

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8/13/12 10:58:27 AM#96
I strongly disagree. I listen to tons of soundtracks, and Soule does a goodjob of creating themes for different races and zones. Each of the 5 races have themes so distinct and so appropriate, and some of the later soundtracks feel very epic.
  User Deleted
8/13/12 11:01:51 AM#97
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by Vesavius
 

lol no, not in terms of whether individuals connect with them and enjoy them more or less.

You really don't understand what's being said to you here?

I've met quite a few people like that in "real life" too. Some people think they just hold the ultimate wisdom about music (or any other art from, including video games). Everything they don't like is obviously sub-par crap and the persons listening to it can only be inferior beings.

To be fair there are concrete definitions of musical quality and complexity established long, long ago by professional musicians and visionaries in the classical era.

The "decently good" music of today is based upon the concrete rules and foundations established by their predecessors.

Problem is, opinions about artwork can definitely not be bound by rules.

Some stupid rule could tell me that Jeremy Soule sucks (for instance), it would definitely NOT stop me from enjoying his creations.

  Vhaln

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8/13/12 11:02:41 AM#98
Originally posted by Alot

 


Originally posted by otinanai123
Do gw2 fans really think gw2 music comes even close to this? be honest.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_9jqf9e0eA&feature=plcp

 


 

I must admit, in terms of being obtrusive the soundtrack of GW2 doesn't even come close to this.

 

I think this is the heart of the issue.  People have different ideas of how 'obtrusive' background music should be.  Soule's music tends to be on the 'bland' side, because it seems meant to be very ambient and unobtrusive.  For some, too much so.

 

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  Homitu

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8/13/12 11:05:56 AM#99
Oh man, I get tingles every time I hear that track!  Ah the subjectivity of beauty.  
  Homitu

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8/13/12 11:11:15 AM#100
Originally posted by Vhaln
Originally posted by Alot

Originally posted by otinanai123
Do gw2 fans really think gw2 music comes even close to this? be honest.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_9jqf9e0eA&feature=plcp

 

 

I must admit, in terms of being obtrusive the soundtrack of GW2 doesn't even come close to this.

I think this is the heart of the issue.  People have different ideas of how 'obtrusive' background music should be.  Soule's music tends to be on the 'bland' side, because it seems meant to be very ambient and unobtrusive.  For some, too much so.

I personally think there are moments when ambiance and sound effects should dominate and other moments where the music is very effective when it picks up and becomes more noticeable.  I always thought WoW did a great job at executing this blend, and so far, I've experienced the same in GW2.  There are definitely moments when the music suddenly becomes more prominent and other moments when it's very subtle.  Always beautifuy imo.  

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