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  User Deleted
7/29/12 11:48:39 AM#61

This poll lost any fun or meaning the moment you mentioned WoW on the list of options.

  rpg123

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7/29/12 11:49:20 AM#62

The game will surpass 1 million active players before its one year anniversary. I'm calling it.

  NomadMorlock

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7/29/12 11:51:49 AM#63
Originally posted by rpg123

The game will surpass 1 million active players before its one year anniversary. I'm calling it.

I'm guessing it will surpass 1 million active players within 60 days of Launch.  I just don't know where it will be on the one year anniversary.....

  khamul787

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7/29/12 4:03:19 PM#64
Originally posted by QuicklyScott
Originally posted by grimal

Successful, but a niche game in a similar sense to GW1.

Reasoning:  Oversaturated market, limited marketing, different appeal than typical P2P title, unknown replayability.

This.  After the intial hype rush, it'll be a game most people play once in a blue moon when they're bored of their current MMO.  Same as GW1.

Actually, *most* people played it regularly or as often as their other MMOs. I never understand why people say this.

  Eir_S

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7/29/12 4:08:51 PM#65
Originally posted by khamul787
Originally posted by QuicklyScott
Originally posted by grimal

Successful, but a niche game in a similar sense to GW1.

Reasoning:  Oversaturated market, limited marketing, different appeal than typical P2P title, unknown replayability.

This.  After the intial hype rush, it'll be a game most people play once in a blue moon when they're bored of their current MMO.  Same as GW1.

Actually, *most* people played it regularly or as often as their other MMOs. I never understand why people say this.

QuicklyScott is a GW2 detractor, he probably doesn't know anything about GW1.  Same with MMOExposed, who incorrectly stated that GW1 was a ghost town before the HoM gatherers started prepping for GW2, when a friend that has actually played GW1 regularly said GW1 has always had the same amount of people on for the last few years, and towns have always been full, even before HoM.

You don't understand because you know the facts and some people around here like to spread misinformation.

  Teala

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7/29/12 5:14:09 PM#66

This is dumb.  GW2 is buy to play.  WoW has a sub.    A game with no subs required will never technically lose any subs.   I think the best way to judge how well this game does to see how many initial box sells it has and then check to see how many box sells it has at the 6 month mark and the 12th month mark.  

 

  aionix

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7/29/12 5:20:17 PM#67

Number 3 based upon pre-orders, business design, gameplay design, and beta weekend previews.  It will be successful I have no doubt, but will it measure up to WoW?  Probably not, because I don't think its global appeal will be as great.

 

Imo GW2 will fare better against WoW in the west than in the east, but only time will tell...

  User Deleted
7/29/12 5:24:03 PM#68
Originally posted by Teala

This is dumb.  GW2 is buy to play.  WoW has a sub.    A game with no subs required will never technically lose any subs.   I think the best way to judge how well this game does to see how many initial box sells it has and then check to see how many box sells it has at the 6 month mark and the 12th month mark.  

You assume wow will remain p2p; I believe that buy next year, if MoP does not do well at all, wow will go to b2p/f2p. After all, it is already f2p to lvl 20!

  Orphes

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8/12/12 1:38:19 PM#69
Originally posted by Teala

This is dumb.  GW2 is buy to play.  WoW has a sub.    A game with no subs required will never technically lose any subs.   I think the best way to judge how well this game does to see how many initial box sells it has and then check to see how many box sells it has at the 6 month mark and the 12th month mark.  

 

 

So the future running cost, former development cost and future development cost will all be solved with the initial box sales?

They will have to rely on new player nuying the box and excisting players using the cash shop. They will not survive by everyone playing it without sinking money into the game.

Call it b2p all you want but they will still need the money to continue develop the game and to continue to keep the servers up.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-08-08-ncsoft-makes-q2-loss-amid-spiralling-costs

This is what GW1 contributes with at the moment "At present, the first Guild Wars game contributes just ?1.27 billion in revenue." Being b2p...

No it won't loose subs, technically, but it won't survive without income, realistically.

(For someone like me, they will perhaps get $20/year from the cash shop)

I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
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  AwDiddums

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8/12/12 1:45:16 PM#70

I look forward to this game going live, it will make a nice change to B2P, means I can still play TSW aswell as GW2, so I believe I have the best of both worlds, a thinking mans game (TSW) and something thats a little bit of fun (GW2).

 

I highly doubt the expectations of those thinking this will be the next big thing after WoW will be met, sure it might prove popular but I look to GW1 to see exactly how popular the game could be, and it's more a Meh than a OMG.

 

However I do wish the game to achieve success in it's own right.

 

 

 

  Justsomenoob

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8/12/12 1:57:37 PM#71

I'm predicting the game is such a flop they remove the sub and try to just make money on a cash shop immediately!

 

=P

 

 

  tank017

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8/12/12 2:00:55 PM#72
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by Thralia

it will be successful but NOTHING like WoW. it will never make the amount of money that blizz makes off WoW.

No it probably will not, because it has no subscriptions, and its highly unlikely that there might be 10M people playing spending  on average $15 a month on  cosmetic items.

even if it did have am onthly sub,I highly doubt it would garner the same wealth as WoW has.

  User Deleted
8/12/12 2:03:09 PM#73
I suppose the success will depend on the community and if we see "go back to wow" in chat every 5 seconds by rude players.
  pointchiz

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8/12/12 2:14:37 PM#74
The only thing that will kill WoW is WoW.
  Jagarid

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8/12/12 2:17:39 PM#75
Originally posted by Justsomenoob

I'm predicting the game is such a flop they remove the sub and try to just make money on a cash shop immediately!

 =P

  

LOL, you win.

 

As for the topic, I voted that it will probably be the most succesful MMO, post wow.  I truly believe that.  I have been coming to the MMORPG website since it first came into existance.  This is the FIRST game, in all that time, that has had me hyped enough that I have bothered to post in the forums.  My post history shows that I'm not fibbing about that.

 

( And lest anyone say I'm fibbing, My join date shows 2009 because I got a new email address in 2009 and also could not remember my password so I started a new account.  I assure you that my 2009 to present post history reflects all of the many years before it).

  sammandar

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8/12/12 2:28:03 PM#76
Originally posted by tank017
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by Thralia

it will be successful but NOTHING like WoW. it will never make the amount of money that blizz makes off WoW.

No it probably will not, because it has no subscriptions, and its highly unlikely that there might be 10M people playing spending  on average $15 a month on  cosmetic items.

even if it did have am onthly sub,I highly doubt it would garner the same wealth as WoW has.

I find it funny that these kinds of discussions tend to end up something similar to this: "my daddy will beat your daddy; your daddy can't beat my daddy, my daddy will be your daddy!"

I think Lord.Bachus is right, though GW2 will become a major player in the mmo genre, most likely it will not kill wow, like he said, only wow can kill wow.

Some devs make games to make money while others make money to make games. Considering the fact that Anet could have easily gone the sub route yet instead they went with the B2P w/ optional CS model causes me to think that Anet wasn't thinkig just of the money (though it is obviously important), they were thinking of the game and the gamers. Not sure I can say the same for Activision/Blizzard and EA/Bioware.

  Cometer

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8/12/12 2:28:46 PM#77

I think GW2 may not be money wise as succeful as WoW but it may reach the same number of active accounts as time goes on.

But before continuing with my opinion let me make it clear. No one is going to beat WoW.

Because WoW is a game that was released in 2004. And for 7 years it has beaten active account records over and over again. No one can say the same for any other MMO ever released.

But obviously WoW won't last forever. The technology behind it is very old by today's standards and obviously those playing WoW are looking for something else too. No matter how good something is you always get tired of it.

With that said, when the first  COD MW was release it  became the best selling FPS ever, and many argued that their sequels wouldn't be as succeful. But like it or not the fact is COD MW sequels all sold more than the first MW.

So in my opinion there is no reason that another MMO can't at least be as succeful as WoW.

I think there is enough interest in GW2 and from the beta reactions, and my own experience I think this will be a success.

Also the fact that the game doesn't have a subscription fee, may end up bringing new players to the MMORPG genre and those MMO players that are investing their time on MMOs that require a subscription may end up trying and perhaps end up enjoying GW2.

I think Arenanet is playing their cards right. If the MMO can support on the long run an active community that is something will only know in a few months after the game is released.

Something easier to measure is game sales on release date. In my opinion GW2 will beat WoW sales numbers on release date.  This is something I think is more than possible.

 

  Xten

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8/13/12 2:09:12 AM#78
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by Eir_S

I voted on the third option down.  That's my safest bet for the time being.

 Just FYI, right now, if you judge success by most subs ever had....SWTOR is the most successful MMO post WoW.  I don't think it will be difficult for GW2 to beat SWTOR ;).

 

Actually that would be Aion with 3 million subs ;)

 

 

 

 

  Arskaaa

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8/13/12 2:13:46 AM#79
Dont matter will it beat WoW or not. WoW is todays kids game, it was more mature before expasion packs. 
  DanitaKusor

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8/13/12 2:53:07 AM#80
Originally posted by Teala

This is dumb.  GW2 is buy to play.  WoW has a sub.    A game with no subs required will never technically lose any subs.   I think the best way to judge how well this game does to see how many initial box sells it has and then check to see how many box sells it has at the 6 month mark and the 12th month mark.  

This is true.  If we just go on box sales then GW2 may be very successful indeed, but in active player numbers... well we will see. I think a lot of people will return to WoW with the expansion for one reason or another and will find something to dislike about GW2. So while it will sell a lot of copies it will be interesting to see how many of those stick around.

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