Originally posted by Cyflym

Originally posted by Psychow

People starting with a negative outlook (OMG, RMAH, it's not D2 and always-online) will come away with a negative experience.

 

People who just play the game and have fun, will have a positive experience.

 

I have had a positve experience and still play almost every night. The game is fun. Sorry haters. 

 

Oh really?

People who have fun doing something have a positive experience?

I never would have guessed...

 

I heard there are people who enjoy skin-cutting and other forms of self harming.

Does that mean that's maybe the next awesome mainstream thing to spend time on too?

If anyone disagrees just say "Haters gonna hate!" thus point proven and all is good?

 You're comparing a enjoying a video game with symptoms a mental illness. No one enjoys being mentally ill.

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Cyflym

Originally posted by Psychow

People starting with a negative outlook (OMG, RMAH, it's not D2 and always-online) will come away with a negative experience.

 

People who just play the game and have fun, will have a positive experience.

 

I have had a positve experience and still play almost every night. The game is fun. Sorry haters. 

 

Oh really?

People who have fun doing something have a positive experience?

I never would have guessed...

 

I heard there are people who enjoy skin-cutting and other forms of self harming.

Does that mean that's maybe the next awesome mainstream thing to spend time on too?

If anyone disagrees just say "Haters gonna hate!" thus point proven and all is good?

 You're comparing a enjoying a video game with symptoms a mental illness. No one enjoys being mentally ill.

Originally posted by Psychow

I don't think your analogy works here. Again having negative expectation can affect your experience.

 

How about instead we use:

 

"I heard there is some book called The Hunger Games. It's a bout a teenage girl. I hate chick books. I read the first chapter and was bored to tears and threw the book into the trash."

 

vs

 

"I heard about a popular book called The Hunger Games. I picked it up and gave it a try. It ended up being so awesome! Now I'm reading the rest of the Trilogy!  Yeah!!"

 

Leaving out if my analogy works or not, I do agree that negative expectation affects experience.

about your new example you need to add :

"I heard about a popular book called The Hunger Games. I picked it up and gave it a try. After reading it I think it's the worst crap ever! Now I'm puzzled why so many people talk about it!"

And many other versions as ofcourse it's no black and white case what people think, there are at least fifty shades of grey...

My main point was just that you basically said "People who enjoy something like it"

That's universally true and proves nothing in regard of the topic "Diablo 3 is the best since sliced bread".

Because you can't forget the other side of the coin which says "People who don't enjoy something don't like it".

Originally posted by zymurgeist

 You're comparing a enjoying a video game with symptoms a mental illness. No one enjoys being mentally ill.

Yes I do compare it and it was a  random "negative thing to do" example.

I didn't say anyone enjoys being menally ill, I said some enjoy the self harming which is true.

They may hate themself for doing it in general but at least some (I personally know 2 who did it) enjoyed the act of hurting themself.

PS: Unless you asked every single mentally ill person or at least know the symptoms of every mental illness and what happens in the mind of those people it is assumptive to say that no one enjoys it.

On top of that I think your statement is wrong as I have a different experience.

PPS: I'm fully aware that my examples are a bit extreme at times.

i didnt really play diablo 1/2   and bought diablo 3  when it was really cheap

thought  it was a good game a little  bit short   and it felt unfinnished like it  was rushed out of the  door with  30% of content missing

never spent any money in the rmah  and  i  played for about 60 hours

it  is good for what it  is  but the replay value is low 

same game just harder  isnt really fun for me  its not even like map changes or anything just the  same game  mobs with more health and more skills

so i thnk i got  to  the 3rd difficulty and stopped why anyone would even buy items for cash ive no idea

i think TL2 will offer more plus i played TL1 for 150+ hours so offers really good value 

Another brainwashed fanboy, move along people nothing to see here.

Originally posted by Mothanos

Another brainwashed fanboy, move along people nothing to see here.

 

This kind of posts are very common in the forums but it defies all logic.

If I don't like a Jazz album and my friend does, would I be right in calling my friend a 'brainwashed fanboy'?

But keep on hating man, I'm sure someone will agree with you.

Fun Fact: Diablo 3 sold 8.7 million copies + 1.3 million through the WoW 1 year pass = 10 million

Honestly, first playtrough on normal was fun.

Because of the story, videos etc. - I really enjoyed it.

What the game turns out to be later on is the main

problem.

Hamster wheel with 'throw your money

elements' built for RMAH circulation?

Really?

Thanks but no thanks!

Diablo 3 is a mediocre game and Blizzard is losing its magic touch

Another couple of releases like Diablo 3 and Blizzard too will end up like Bioware.

I bought it, I played it but I wasn't overwhelmed by it, in fact very disappointed that they made zero improvement from Diablo 2.

Very lazy design.

Originally posted by Cyflym

Originally posted by Psychow

I don't think your analogy works here. Again having negative expectation can affect your experience.

 

How about instead we use:

 

"I heard there is some book called The Hunger Games. It's a bout a teenage girl. I hate chick books. I read the first chapter and was bored to tears and threw the book into the trash."

 

vs

 

"I heard about a popular book called The Hunger Games. I picked it up and gave it a try. It ended up being so awesome! Now I'm reading the rest of the Trilogy!  Yeah!!"

 

Leaving out if my analogy works or not, I do agree that negative expectation affects experience.

about your new example you need to add :

"I heard about a popular book called The Hunger Games. I picked it up and gave it a try. After reading it I think it's the worst crap ever! Now I'm puzzled why so many people talk about it!"

And many other versions as ofcourse it's no black and white case what people think, there are at least fifty shades of grey...

 

My main point was just that you basically said "People who enjoy something like it"

That's universally true and proves nothing in regard of the topic "Diablo 3 is the best since sliced bread".

Because you can't forget the other side of the coin which says "People who don't enjoy something don't like it".

 

Fair enough.

My original argument was simply stating that the odds of liking something diminishes if you go in thinking of the negatives. 

But there are times that someone can go in negative and come out thinking "Holy crap, boy was I wrong. This game is awesome. Why is everyone complaining???"

So, now we have covered all the possibilities:

1) negative = hate game;

 2) Positive = May like game;

3) Positive = may hate game;

4) Negative = may like the game.

So I guess just trying to enjoy a game isn't enough. My idea that having a positive attitude might help you enjoy a game is completely wrong. Sorry for the misinformation. Nothing matters. 

I may try it in a year or two, but after playing the beta for a bit and seeing how they've basically went as far away from D2 as they could and still have "Diablo" on the manual somewhere leaves me with little hope for my ability to enjoy or tolerate it.

I still have my Diablo 1 & 2 manuals and boxes after playing them for years. (Literally)

yeah it rocks. I am still playing after 200+ hours. And 1.04 sounds very good. Many classes are buffed. The popular (but i hate) melee wiz build is nerfed. Other wiz abilities (which i like) are buffed.

Legendaries are buffed. No more invulerable minions .. the list goes on and on.

Originally posted by eyelolled
Diablo III is the reason I will never buy a Blizzard game again.  nuff said.

Originally posted by TheHavok

Best Hack and Slash without a doubt.  I just wish they added pvp alritey.

 

Path of Exile and Grim Dawn will blow it out of the water.

If by rocks you mean sinks in water then I agree.

Originally posted by Elderknight

800hrs,paid for the game and have couple hundred in my bnet acct

So, we're talking something on the rough order of a $0.25/hour?

That IS amazing.  Minimum wage.  Before 1939.

Originally posted by DSWBeef

Originally posted by TheHavok

Best Hack and Slash without a doubt.  I just wish they added pvp alritey.

 

Path of Exile and Grim Dawn will blow it out of the water.

This. D3 is garbage.

I had fun playing Diablo 3, but I found out quickly it didn't have the staying power that Diablo 2 did.  For me, this boiled down to one thing:  Lack of replayability due to the design decision to simplify character leveling / customization.  Diablo 2 was great for this, as it wasn't just different types of builds on the various characters that kept me playing, but that the item system allowed for character builds to be constructed with specific items in mind.

Frankly, I am having more fun playing Titan Quest Gold (Game + Expansion) that I picked up on Steam for $5 when it was on sale.

Now just waiting on Torchlight 2.