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  User Deleted
8/11/12 2:51:57 AM#21
Originally posted by lightblade
Originally posted by gamekid2k

I was excited that GW2 doesn't have traditional roles.  

Today I tried out Guardian and was amazed the amount of tanking and healing ability it has.  I have a feeling that even in GW2 we will start seeing specialization and dungeon group will still setup with 1 tank 1 heal and 3 DD mold. I bet Tank and Healer shortage will hit this game.

 

 

Please explain.

I can only assume by 'tanking and healing ability' he means 'survivability'. 

 

The only thing more amazing to me than how many people understand and are looking forward to GW2 is the number of people who DON'T.

  Magnetia

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8/11/12 2:54:59 AM#22

Anet have stated numerous times that there are still roles to play. 

The important thing to remember is that these roles are NOT ESSENTIAL to grouping. It has a soft trinity. 

Some classes take damage better than others. Nobody ever said "there are no roles" we only said "the HOLY trinity is not applicable here"

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  AIMonster

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8/11/12 5:05:44 AM#23
Players who run pure DD in explorable mode are in for a surprise.

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  Kethrym

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8/11/12 5:28:19 AM#24
Originally posted by gamekid2k

I was excited that GW2 doesn't have traditional roles.  

Today I tried out Guardian and was amazed the amount of tanking and healing ability it has.  I have a feeling that even in GW2 we will start seeing specialization and dungeon group will still setup with 1 tank 1 heal and 3 DD mold. I bet Tank and Healer shortage will hit this game.

 

 

I could say the same for my Necro, or for an Elementalist, or for a Warrior, or for a Mesmer or.....well you get the point.   Here's what you're missing though.    All Tanking, Healing, and DPS (to use the terms we all know) is limited by the situation and your characters cooldowns.  

Since there is no class that has ANY aggro gaining ability, "Tanking" per say does not exist.    Same thing for Healing.  No direct ZOMG direct heals that would make anyone a "Healer".   So that leaves DPS.   Well ok you win, there is DPS.   :-P

Can you make your character "into" a Tank or Healer?  Kinda......  Sure I could make my Necro into a Life Siphoning healer while in Death Shroud, would I call him a main healer?  Oh geez no.   An Elementalist gets nice AoE and splash heals, but it's no more powerful than my Necro or a Guardian.  

Sure you can make a Sword and Board Warrior and (when properly played) you can survive a pretty decent amount of time.   However you're not a Tank.    If you run around thinking people will be healing you so you can "tank" you've got another thing coming.   

 You better learn to dodge, run, kite, CC, switch weapons, and heal yourself to survive.   Pick up some support skills to make it easier for those around you.    You better also learn what combos you can pull off with your weapon sets.  

Being able to recognize the needs of those around you compared to whatever it is your facing, is what make this game so much fun.   

I can't wait for someone to run up during release screaming "I'll tank the boss" and then watch them Nerd Rage when they either die, or spam every cooldown they have to get some aggro, and then still die. 

  thinktank001

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8/11/12 5:30:10 AM#25
Originally posted by cahenderson

 

The only thing more amazing to me than how many people understand and are looking forward to GW2 is the number of people who DON'T.

 

That is what happens when you don't drink the koolaid, and many past failures make players leery of jumping on the hype train.  IMHO, GW2 combat is very similar to PSO combat, but I just don't enjoy their version of it.  I think it probably because the action combat is more suited for a diablo style dungeon crawler than an MMO.

  Kethrym

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8/11/12 5:35:17 AM#26
Originally posted by thinktank001
Originally posted by cahenderson

 

The only thing more amazing to me than how many people understand and are looking forward to GW2 is the number of people who DON'T.

 

That is what happens when you don't drink the koolaid, and many past failures make players leery of jumping on the hype train.  IMHO, GW2 combat is very similar to PSO combat, but I just don't enjoy their version of it.  I think it probably because the action combat is more suited for a diablo style dungeon crawler than an MMO.

LOL, you make it sound like it's just a button mashing fest.   Sure the starter area DE's don't require much thought,  but then again you're just learning your abilites and weapon sets.   Try just randomly button mashing in DE's at level 15 and see how long you last.  

  Shorun

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8/11/12 5:37:09 AM#27

I already fear the WoW- and CoD-fans in this game. You know, these guys who don't care about the game mode, the sense or anything else, just for damage and kills. (I remember WoW-players bashing someone because he low damage. Well, he was guarding the flag, so yeah...-.-)

Trust me, there will be enough people who will never touch buttons 6-9 because they (mostly) don't do damge. However, I hope they leave the game quickly because they'll be sucking at it anyways.

 

So back to the topic: Of course guardians can heal more than other classes and deal less damage than thiefs (for example). But this doesn't make them tanks or healers. If nobody else in the group heals or avoids damage the group is going down with or without guardian.

Guardians only enhance the boons and defense of the group, whereas warriors enhance the damage.

  Vannor

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8/11/12 5:38:27 AM#28
If any one player doesn't look after, dodge and heal themselves they will die in GW2. That's what they mean by the Trinity is gone. You can not rely on other players to keep you alive. Try it and see, I have.
  Vesavius

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8/11/12 5:42:10 AM#29
Originally posted by gamekid2k

I was excited that GW2 doesn't have traditional roles.  

Today I tried out Guardian and was amazed the amount of tanking and healing ability it has.  I have a feeling that even in GW2 we will start seeing specialization and dungeon group will still setup with 1 tank 1 heal and 3 DD mold. I bet Tank and Healer shortage will hit this game.

 

Roles in combat are good.

Dependency on specific classes to fill those roles is not good.

 

(I bet we won't).

  grapevine

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8/11/12 5:50:59 AM#30

OP is actually correct, to a point.  

 

The "rolls" do exist in GW2, but they aren't absolutes like traditional MMOs.   Some classes have higher mitigation, others can heal more.   All classes however have a degree of what a traditional MMO class would have.   So tanking, healing rolls are more of a support mechanism to briefly help out others, compared to only doing that roll.

 

For example you may want a Guardian or Warrior to open an encounter, but you would not want them to simply tank.

  terrant

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8/11/12 7:52:54 AM#31
Originally posted by grapevine

OP is actually correct, to a point.  

 

The "rolls" do exist in GW2, but they aren't absolutes like traditional MMOs.   Some classes have higher mitigation, others can heal more.   All classes however have a degree of what a traditional MMO class would have.   So tanking, healing rolls are more of a support mechanism to briefly help out others, compared to only doing that roll.

 

For example you may want a Guardian or Warrior to open an encounter, but you would not want them to simply tank.

That much may be true; but it's a dengerous mindset to get into.

 

This is what I forsee happening.

 

"Party lf 1 Guardian 2 run AC, PST"

 

"Hi, my name's Bobtheguardian. Can I join!"

 

"Yay! We got our tank!"

 

"Wait a minute guys...."

 

 

5 minutes later...

 

"OMG Worst tank ever y u no hold aggro!

 

"Um...you stood there in melee range and kept hitting it. You didn't use your blind, or your stuns, or dodge roll, or anything"

 

"Duh, ur the tank! that's ur job newb!" /partykick.

 

 

I mean, I wouldn't wanna be in that party anyway, but I don't wanna see the lazy mentality where people think "Guardian=dedicated tank/heals, so we can jsut DPS and ignore everything". A) It's not gonna work; B) if it does, I want Guardian to where it can't.

  gamekid2k

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OP  8/11/12 7:35:10 PM#32
Originally posted by terrant
That much may be true; but it's a dengerous mindset to get into.

 

This is what I forsee happening.

 

"Party lf 1 Guardian 2 run AC, PST"

 

"Hi, my name's Bobtheguardian. Can I join!"

 

"Yay! We got our tank!"

 

"Wait a minute guys...."

 

 

5 minutes later...

 

"OMG Worst tank ever y u no hold aggro!

 

"Um...you stood there in melee range and kept hitting it. You didn't use your blind, or your stuns, or dodge roll, or anything"

 

"Duh, ur the tank! that's ur job newb!" /partykick.

 

 

I mean, I wouldn't wanna be in that party anyway, but I don't wanna see the lazy mentality where people think "Guardian=dedicated tank/heals, so we can jsut DPS and ignore everything". A) It's not gonna work; B) if it does, I want Guardian to where it can't.

I lol in RL.  I think I will skip dungeons for first month until everybody else get used to these things.  I am a PuGer.  

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  Nadia

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8/11/12 7:52:45 PM#33
Originally posted by gamekid2k
Originally posted by terrant
"OMG Worst tank ever y u no hold aggro!

I lol in RL.  I think I will skip dungeons for first month until everybody else get used to these things.  I am a PuGer.  

im also a PUGer but rather share in the learning misery

 

when EQ2 launched, there was a game mechanic of group experience debt

-- anyone dies and whole group gets penalized with exp debt 

i met some real winners that month, including someone who had the most deaths on the server but it was fun

  DJJazzy

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8/11/12 7:56:46 PM#34
Originally posted by terrant
Originally posted by grapevine

OP is actually correct, to a point.  

 

The "rolls" do exist in GW2, but they aren't absolutes like traditional MMOs.   Some classes have higher mitigation, others can heal more.   All classes however have a degree of what a traditional MMO class would have.   So tanking, healing rolls are more of a support mechanism to briefly help out others, compared to only doing that roll.

 

For example you may want a Guardian or Warrior to open an encounter, but you would not want them to simply tank.

That much may be true; but it's a dengerous mindset to get into.

 

This is what I forsee happening.

 

"Party lf 1 Guardian 2 run AC, PST"

 

"Hi, my name's Bobtheguardian. Can I join!"

 

"Yay! We got our tank!"

 

This is where you would drop the group.
  hikaru77

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8/11/12 8:19:09 PM#35
Originally posted by gamekid2k

I was excited that GW2 doesn't have traditional roles.  

Today I tried out Guardian and was amazed the amount of tanking and healing ability it has.  I have a feeling that even in GW2 we will start seeing specialization and dungeon group will still setup with 1 tank 1 heal and 3 DD mold. I bet Tank and Healer shortage will hit this game.

 

 

No, you just need 5 warriors in ur group. 

  cyress8

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8/11/12 8:22:11 PM#36
Originally posted by lightblade
Originally posted by gamekid2k

I was excited that GW2 doesn't have traditional roles.  

Today I tried out Guardian and was amazed the amount of tanking and healing ability it has.  I have a feeling that even in GW2 we will start seeing specialization and dungeon group will still setup with 1 tank 1 heal and 3 DD mold. I bet Tank and Healer shortage will hit this game.

 

 

Please explain.

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  gaeanprayer

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8/11/12 8:27:53 PM#37
Originally posted by gamekid2k

Ok, so without taunt or agro, there will be less tanking role,

However people can (and will) choose to just stick with DD, and not heal.  I remember Eye of Eternity/Malygos fight where many times the traditional heal wanted a take break and do DD but nobody else wanted to do the healing job.  

In MMO I have been playing tank/heal/DD and I guess GW2 is gonna throw some of traditional DD out of comfort zone. 

The game was sort of made for that, actually, so it's perfectly fine. You'll notice most heals and buffs affect the person casting them while also throwing a bone out to the people around them, the Ele's Healing Rain being the most obvious example. I use my Mesmer's Quickness whenever it's going to benefit me the most, but as a courtesy I also shout that I'm about to cast it so people can get close enough to benefit as well. It's sort of an all for one, one for all, kind of game. If you take care of your own survival, you sort of inadverdantly help others survive as well.

Certain classes (necro, guardian and engineer specifically) have to be slightly more aware of where the others in the team are and what they're doing, but it doesn't rest on their shoulders. For instance, if as a Guardian you put up an anti-arrow wall, and I'm too busy DPSing to get behind it and end up dead, whose fault is it? Yours for not jumping in front of me first, or me for not paying attention and noticing you gave me a way to defend myself? I'd say the latter.

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  Derpybird

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8/11/12 8:44:14 PM#38
Originally posted by gamekid2k

I was excited that GW2 doesn't have traditional roles.  

Today I tried out Guardian and was amazed the amount of tanking and healing ability it has.  I have a feeling that even in GW2 we will start seeing specialization and dungeon group will still setup with 1 tank 1 heal and 3 DD mold. I bet Tank and Healer shortage will hit this game.

 

 

Please go ahead and try and tank 5 mans with your guardian and let us know how that works out for you.

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