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  User Deleted
8/10/12 10:17:00 AM#21
Bill Murphy continues his attack on wow - that should have been the title here. I don't blame him though, I feel like all clothies suck to level, actually after you level a hunter its hard to level anything else.
  User Deleted
8/10/12 10:20:45 AM#22
Originally posted by Vrika

Warrior information is horribly outdated. Since Cataclysm changes warriors have had high burst dps, good self healing (victory rush) and good mobility (charge, intercept) making them one of the faster classes to level.

Paladin information is also a bit outdated. Leveling (assuming solo questing) a paladin requires the player to be as active if not more active than a ranged class would require.

Even if this article is a column, I think MMORPG.com quality control failed when this was released as official article. Releasing outdated information makes MMORPG.com look ridiculous.

Thanks for giving that info on the Warrior. Can you believe the Warrior changed so radically in ONLY 7-8 YEARS? Gawd. lol

Bill doesn't believe it. 

  AlBQuirky

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8/10/12 10:23:58 AM#23

For me, the rogue (aka rouge) was tough in world fights vs. groups of mobs. Sure, you could shadowstep and immobilize (sleep) a pack of mobs, but as you're doing that, then trying to kill each mob individually, the mobs had a tendency to start respawning before I could get through the original set. It made for some very interesting situations!

- Al

Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
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  User Deleted
8/10/12 10:31:59 AM#24
I think before you bash Bill, you do take into consideration as some of you are saying, the game is 8 years old. Did you play it 6,7,8 years ago? Or even before cata when they mixed up what level you get x spell? He does say in the second sentence of this article the word "are" instead of "were" he changes that one word and this is a legit article.
  User Deleted
8/10/12 10:32:49 AM#25
Originally posted by orbitxo

when i played wow- leveling my shaman was so much fun and i was fortunate enough todo his side quests! later in game at higher level he was a heavy support class and worse yet you didnt get any respect if you werent a healer shammy.

 

that left such a bad taste in the game play style -like why would there be 3 different trees when one out weighted the other two.

 

that said -later on post lich king , he was respected again and useful with dps in 5man dungeons.

ledgend has it- that the shaman was a great tank in the vanilla era.

 

Issue was more that well you had a huge disparity in population of healers to dps or even tanks back then, as such most classes that could heal were expected to heal by virtue of it made gettting groups for those that could not specc to heal. It is less to do with anyone designing the class's talent trees badly, an alot more of how people feel an exect thgins to go in th game regardless of what is intended by the devs. Yeah though a shammy was a pretty good tank overall prior to bc (somewhat even into bc parts.), an alot of classes got alot more respect an use out of more of the talent trees.  mean look at pallies in vinnila wow they were not able to really dps or tank (could not tank or dps at all really in anythign past 5-mans even though in truth they had very good damage output, just terrrible threat management tools making them hazards alot of the time.), and warriors which normally were expected to tank largely in most groups that they went into.

 

For me i found the rogue to mbe pretty bad to level yet not because it was hard leveling, but alot of the time it was very boring an tedious leveling him/her. also most of the healer classes (priest, druid to some extent, and shammy) were difficult to actually level at any reasonable speed unless you specced into their dps talent tree, and then respecced back n town prior to getting summoned to the instance (before dual speccing came in to the game.), they also had the slowest killing speed largely which just slowed progression.

  BillMurphy

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8/10/12 10:37:21 AM#26
Do we really have to preface every COLUMN article with the notion that columns are editorially based and therefore opinion? To me, and still, this list is my most boring/annoying classes to level. You can have your own too, but neither of us will be "right".
  Bama1267

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8/10/12 10:45:06 AM#27
 The cloumn title could have been chosen better If that is the case. "Worst classes to level" has a different feel than" Most annoying/boring to level." Regardless... its WoW, none of them are hard to level .... annoying, I found Warrior to be annoying ... the rest seemed fun.
  User Deleted
8/10/12 10:45:32 AM#28
Originally posted by Rockniss
I think before you bash Bill, you do take into consideration as some of you are saying, the game is 8 years old. Did you play it 6,7,8 years ago? Or even before cata when they mixed up what level you get x spell? He does say in the second sentence of this article the word "are" instead of "were" he changes that one word and this is a legit article.

He said there are still some classes today that outshine others and yada yada, talking in generalities, that not all classes are equal in terms of fun and ease of leveling even now.

When he got to Warrior, and told us all that he has no idea what they're like and he's going by pre-TBC Warrior for writing this article, I just really couldn't believe it. 

As for Paladin, he continues saying it's just a boring experience, as if he's once again remember vanilla Paladin with mainly just auto-attacking with heals, bubbles and seals, or whatever. 

  User Deleted
8/10/12 10:51:43 AM#29
Originally posted by BillMurphy
Do we really have to preface every COLUMN article with the notion that columns are editorially based and therefore opinion? To me, and still, this list is my most boring/annoying classes to level. You can have your own too, but neither of us will be "right".
 

If you don't realize where you went wrong with this article, then I just don't know what to think of you. Honestly, it's not about how it's your opinion - it's the outdated info and you not having enough knowledge about the game's classes to warrant writing an article about the game's classes. 

But, I've said my piece, and I'm done here.

  Shodanas

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8/10/12 10:55:54 AM#30

Mr. Murphy, you are a few years late me thinks and this article is totally out of place in relation to WoW's leveling process today. No class requires micromanagement and most certain no class is difficult to level up nowadays. Just some are more faceroll than others, especially when you use a full heirloom set like almost all do. I leveled a such geared night elf roguess a few weeks back and i don't remember my hp ever dropping bellow 50%, not once. I bought her the heirlooms, picked a leveling spec of the web and voila.. 85 in no time.

Some classes where indeed hard / harder to level a while back when the world content was way more challenging. I remember dying a lot with my warrior due to miss pulls, respawns, bad use of cd's etc.

  mnemic666

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8/10/12 11:20:42 AM#31

I actually had a blast leveling my paladin for the most part.

 

Classic: Prot/holy. Tanked and healed low level isntances (With SoF back when it was a thing) when people said pali's couldn't tank or heal. Solo'd pretty much every group quest. Made grinding mobs for quests interesting by AoE pulling them. Outfarming mages in Sorrow Hill was fun : )

 

BC: Janky prot/ret build with reckoning that was actually super OP for leveling. Tanked all the instances leveling up as well (had a leveling group). Not super interactive again, but the build also let me solo a lot of the group quests so it was fun.

 

LK: Ret wasn't horrible, leveling was actually pretty fun. Prot was fun for dungeons.

 

Cata: Yeah...ret was painful to play and prot was better, but did squat for damage. Was the only time I felt leveling was actually painful.

 

I actually didn't mind the lack of interactivity for the most part. Gave me plenty of time to grind my loins while grinding (huehuehue).

  Xstatic912

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8/10/12 12:08:50 PM#32
Poorly written article.. All classes are now easy to level.

I find it amazing blizz keep refining the experience to get everyone involve and as such maybe piss some persons off..

seeing as ask classes are easy to level, a better writeup would be, which classes is more fun personally to level..
  FrodoFragins

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8/10/12 12:10:31 PM#33
What year was this article written?  Dungeon finders and quests make it easy to level with any class.  Just don't be stupid and pick a  bad spec if you aren't using the dungeon finder.
  User Deleted
8/10/12 12:17:49 PM#34
I did mostly questing on my first toon, it was a holy pally oh my gosh that was painful.
  Vrika

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8/10/12 12:18:33 PM#35
Originally posted by BillMurphy
Do we really have to preface every COLUMN article with the notion that columns are editorially based and therefore opinion? To me, and still, this list is my most boring/annoying classes to level. You can have your own too, but neither of us will be "right".

I do understand that a column is just an opinion, and I think you told clearly enough when you didn't have information about changes made to WoW.

What I don't understand is, why did you write about something you don't know about? I think someone writing an official article should know about the subject they are writing on, even if it's just a column. You yourself admitted that you didn't really know about warrior changes since 2007 (TBC release). Is "I don't really know about changes made since 2007" really acceptable level of knowledge when writing official column about largest MMO in market to a website that specializes in MMOs?

  Boltonsquad

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8/10/12 12:25:19 PM#36
Priest was the most boring/unentertaining class i've ever leveled and I have all classes at 80+
  Nadia

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8/10/12 12:29:43 PM#37
Originally posted by Boltonsquad
Priest was the most boring/unentertaining class i've ever leveled and I have all classes at 80+

for me it was rogue - ive also leveled all classes to 80

  zakin

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8/10/12 12:32:10 PM#38
Holy pally before duel spec. Did it during bc when it first launched
  Tuchaka

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8/10/12 12:38:13 PM#39
I didn't know wow actually made you level anymore, i thought you just gave blizzard money and poof, ohh wait its exactlly like that.
  Gravarg

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8/10/12 12:41:14 PM#40
It depends on how you play, but I thought warlock was one of the fastest, All you have to do is get your felguard to run into a bunch of mobs, and you run up with hellfire *once you get it*.  Kill 10-15 mobs, go turn in quest and recharge while you do it :)  I think out of all of them paladin takes the longest, but isn't really the hardest.  With dungeon finder, paladin and warrior are really fast to level since tanks are almost always instant join.  Paladin can also be healer when there's a lack of healers in dungeon finder :)

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