Originally posted by Ramanadjinn

Originally posted by Bladestrom
Serious question, why can't blizzard zone up with simple solutions like this, or maybe they just don't care as long as subs roll in...

 

there are solutions, but out of the ones i can think of large portions of the community would have a fit if they implemented them. 

What if the harsh solutions were implemented into the game from the start? Like, say, harsh solutions inplemented in GW2 or Titan or whatevr.

There would be no "history" of getting away with it. The Drakonian method would be in place from day one.

They should give players who buy gold detention.  Make them farm candles from Kobolds or fish kelp, make boiled clams or something else completely mundane.  Until they finish the completely mundane task they should lose access to all mounts.

But the task should be equal to the gold bought, say if they bought 50,000 gold they'd need to farm 50,000 worth of candles, hehe.

For people upset at Diablo 3's RMAH - people like the OP is a large part of why they did it. Because no matter how often and how loud you tell people that buying gold from gold farmers is a great way to get your account hacked, or that it ruins the in-game economy, or that it encourages gold-farming companies to continue their illegal practices that often involve over-working poorly-treated and barely-paid employees in countries such as China, etc., etc., they still do it anyway, because they just don't care.

Quite frankly, the OP's account should have been banned, the credit card used to pay for the subscriptions banned, and his characters permenantly deleted.

Originally posted by Psychow

 

 

What if the harsh solutions were implemented into the game from the start? Like, say, harsh solutions inplemented in GW2 or Titan or whatevr.

 

There would be no "history" of getting away with it. The Drakonian method would be in place from day one.

thats the best way to go imo.  develop a plan to deal with it and launch with that plan in place.  WOW is old, i can't blame them.

harsh penalties on buyers is one way to go but from a business standpoint i'm not sure any company would be willing to adopt this strategy over a a strategy that doesn't shrink their playerbase.  there are strategies that actually make them money without banning anyone like in D3.

they tried to launch with a plan in D3, but from what i'm hearing second hand it sounds like they took their plan a little too far and it affected the game.  i'm not making a statement, that could be misinformation. i don't know i did not buy D3.

but GW2 is trying a solution with the gems for gold thing, we'll see if that has an impact.

i have no doubt Titan will do something similar.  anywhere from a RMAH to just selling gold themselves.  and ya theres other things they can try besides making the gold more accessible but i would wager they will work a way for them to make money into the solution.  

a solution that doesn't hurt the players, allows them to buy gold without going to a shady third party site, and creates profit for the company is a win for everyone in my personal opinion.

Look its as simple as this...........

Blizzard is bleeding subs........................Once again, Blizzard is bleeding subs

They will NOT ban you for this, it makes zero business sense with their sub numbers. You guys can 'debate' it all you want, point remains.

Blizzard will not do anything at this time,

Banning for one gold-buying offense is a really draconian punishment, not sure why everybody loves to cheer on this kind of thing. For a lot of new MMO players, buying gold doesn't sound like anything harmful so it's fair to let them off with a warning and inform them of the consequences of their actions, as done in that E-Mail.

Also, I've never understood how Blizzard can truthfully determine if somebody has bought gold. Receiving a large sum in your mailbox is not really proof. I've always wondered too, if I don't like somebody could I perhaps purchase a few dollars worth of gold, have it sent to their character and poof, they're banned for good?

The only way to stop gold farming is to stop making MMORPGs so dependant on fake economies that require players to farm massive amounts of items to throw on the auction house for cash.

I've bought gold in plenty of MMORPGs, especially WoW whenever I need money for gems/enchants.  For oldschool MMORPGs like FFXI, EverQuest, UO, and Lineage II, it's almost essential.

Originally posted by Psychow

People who buy gold shouldn't even be playing MMOs. If your excuse is "I don't have time to earn gold" then you don't have time to play the game.

 

The same goes for paying for a leveling service. It's like paying someone to have sex with your wife just to get that part over with and she can move on to end-game (Cooking and cleaning).

This service exsists???

Even though they both contribute to the problem, Blizzard tends to go after the sellers, and bans them... even though they use hacked accounts to do their bidding.

Illegal gold selling is a pain in the dick. But seriously, it's like buying stolen goods. Don't do it.

I don't see why they just don't hand out authenticators to everyone that buys the game. And before you say you were hacked with an authenticator... no, you weren't. Blizz has said there has never been anyone with a key chain authenticator that has been hacked.

It costs them so much to have the CS deal with hacked accounts.

Originally posted by Goldknyght
F-that buy gold, buy whatever to your hearts content. Cuz at the end of the day we are all going to die so whats buying 30k gold to save a week of the boring grind to get it.

Right, as long as you don't get caught let's all commit crimes as well. After all they make life easier. Working for a living is for chumps. YOLO G.

Originally posted by jusomdude

Even though they both contribute to the problem, Blizzard tends to go after the sellers, and bans them... even though they use hacked accounts to do their bidding.

Illegal gold selling is a pain in the dick. But seriously, it's like buying stolen goods. Don't do it.

I don't see why they just don't hand out authenticators to everyone that buys the game. And before you say you were hacked with an authenticator... no, you weren't. Blizz has said there has never been anyone with a key chain authenticator that has been hacked.

It costs them so much to have the CS deal with hacked accounts.

Apparently not, or they would give authenticators to everyone for free.  I guess 15/mo sub fee goes a long way to pay CS Techs and remember, fear will drive many folks to pay for one and I'm sure there's a tidy profit in them. (I know I bought one a few years back)

Here's an interesting question, back when gold selling first started, the companies actually earned gold the old fashioned way, they employed armies of underpaid workers to play the game and gather the gold.

Now days everyone seems to think that all gold sellers are criminal organizations that are routinely engaged in credit card fraud, account stealing and other shady practices.

I wonder where the truth lies, are there any reputable gold sellers or are they all really criminals?  (ethics of selling gold not withstanding)

Originally posted by jusomdude

Originally posted by Goldknyght
F-that buy gold, buy whatever to your hearts content. Cuz at the end of the day we are all going to die so whats buying 30k gold to save a week of the boring grind to get it.

Right, as long as you don't get caught let's all commit crimes as well. After all they make life easier. Working for a living is for chumps. YOLO G.

Are you really going to compare buying gold in wow to commiting crimes and having to goto work? If so get help you need it

I know this... I hardly see anyone farming anything in WoW. I actually always see a few druids farming herbs in Uldum and that's pretty much it.

I don't think that would be enough to support the amounts of gold they sell.

Also, it came straight from the horses mouth. Blizzard knows the amount of accounts hacked and gold stolen.

Originally posted by Goldknyght

Originally posted by jusomdude

Originally posted by Goldknyght
F-that buy gold, buy whatever to your hearts content. Cuz at the end of the day we are all going to die so whats buying 30k gold to save a week of the boring grind to get it.

Right, as long as you don't get caught let's all commit crimes as well. After all they make life easier. Working for a living is for chumps. YOLO G.

Are you really going to compare buying gold in wow to commiting crimes and having to goto work? If so get help you need it

Are you really so blind that you can't see that you're supporting criminals?

So, that's like paying people to steal... Maybe that fits nicely into your moral compass, but I don't know how much it does others.

Originally posted by Dudek28
sounds like you dodged a golden bullet.

no he didnot . i complained to blizzard that my brother was buying gold for his account as we live in the same house .so i know what he does. they first banned his account . than my brother said oh it was not me it was the hacker who did it . they returned his account even though he had got a permanent ban . blizzard sucks . and not to mention i have reported him 4 times and everytime he has got away with it .one way or the other .

Originally posted by jusomdude

Originally posted by Goldknyght

Originally posted by jusomdude

Originally posted by Goldknyght
F-that buy gold, buy whatever to your hearts content. Cuz at the end of the day we are all going to die so whats buying 30k gold to save a week of the boring grind to get it.

Right, as long as you don't get caught let's all commit crimes as well. After all they make life easier. Working for a living is for chumps. YOLO G.

Are you really going to compare buying gold in wow to commiting crimes and having to goto work? If so get help you need it

Are you really so blind that you can't see that you're supporting criminals?

no because if u get caught selling or buying gold in WoW u just get banned. If you get caught doing a crime you goto jail. You pay to play wow, if you earn something in the game and want to sell it you should be able to is my point. its just a game. buying gold will not affect anyone