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  C1d0s

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8/07/12 11:05:17 PM#21
Originally posted by Robokapp

look at your #4, sir.

 

perhaps we shouldn't make an MMO about that...think about it. There's nothing more volatile as a topic than that.

 

problem with MMO's is that they're also RPG's. And RPing on these themes could turn ultra-nasty with the current maturity level of our playerbase.

 

that being said, I'd love toplay an mmo about industrialization. :)

There's religion in plenty of MMOs. In almost every single universe, there's some sort of God ( or Gods ) who're praised and worshipped.

What's the difference in utilizing a real-world religion in the Wild West? And, believe me, I am in no way advocating the blatant promotion or intolerence of faith. However, it's historically accurate that a lot of things in the Wild West are linked to religious motivation - the slaughter of natives, slavery, expansion, morality. If the goal was to make an accurate depiction of Wild West life, then it makes perfect sense to include religion.

Of course, if it's just a funsy themepark of Cowboys VS Outlaws, then I'll agree that including a controversial topic isn't really required .

  Misthawk

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8/07/12 11:09:49 PM#22
Originally posted by Robokapp

well...I imagine some are a bit hesitant to make a whites vs indians faction mmo... 

Doesn't have to have a historical accuracy to it.  It could be themed around an alternative reality, with a western-styled theme to it.

You start at many of the outlying towns, with either a profession as an outsider, bandit, lawman, worker, etc.  Maybe use the threat of something unnatural, supernatural, biological, and so on, to get the plot rolling, as well as some non-fictional threats that aren't racial.  General transportation would consist of those of the fictional (or maybe use a fictional steampunk setting), with player involvement having to help maintain the highways and railroads from decaying, being destroyed, etc., as well as helping to build new routes.

Just a diminutive idea on the countless possibilities that could be themed around a western-styled MMO.

  hockeyplayr

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OP  8/07/12 11:15:44 PM#23
Originally posted by C1d0s
 

There's religion in plenty of MMOs. In almost every single universe, there's some sort of God ( or Gods ) who're praised and worshipped.

What's the difference in utilizing a real-world religion in the Wild West? And, believe me, I am in no way advocating the blatant promotion or intolerence of faith. However, it's historically accurate that a lot of things in the Wild West are linked to religious motivation - the slaughter of natives, slavery, expansion, morality. If the goal was to make an accurate depiction of Wild West life, then it makes perfect sense to include religion.

Of course, if it's just a funsy themepark of Cowboys VS Outlaws, then I'll agree that including a controversial topic isn't really required .

That's the beauty of it.  A developer could make it as deep as they desire. 

  Robokapp

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8/07/12 11:16:45 PM#24

well, wouldn't  Salem kinda be relevant to this topic? I know it's different region, different period but it's in there...in the sense that it's historically located in almost-relevant time.

 

let's see how Salem turns out imo. :)

 

 

p.s. my problem isn't with religion belonging or not in MMOs. It's with what will become of it when Xxxjedilolxxx decides to play a religious character.

  Misthawk

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8/07/12 11:23:46 PM#25
Originally posted by Robokapp

p.s. my problem isn't with religion belonging or not in MMOs. It's with what will become of it when Xxxjedilolxxx decides to play a religious character.

Couldn't be much worse than r0flpwn4ge playing a cowboy.

  alexmino

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8/07/12 11:29:28 PM#26
Killing indians and coyotes would get old i imagine.
  tank017

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8/07/12 11:33:42 PM#27

im sure devs think it'd be pretty boring...

 

pretty much every enemy would be human or some sort of modern day animal.

 

setting would be mostly desert id imagine..

 

 

pretty bland.

 

EDIT: Unless they make some Cowboys vs Aliens type cheesyness

  warmaster670

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8/07/12 11:38:27 PM#28

Heres the real question, why no alternate reality WWW?

 

Like fallout pre nuke war was alternate 50s.

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  stayBlind

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8/07/12 11:39:29 PM#29
Originally posted by Robokapp

well...I imagine some are a bit hesitant to make a whites vs indians faction mmo...

 

for the same reason there is no real race based MMO. when are all the games who have playable real races set? either in deep sci-fi world war scenarios or in antiquity. or the races are dwarves, elves, humans, goblins and orcs.

 

make an mmo with ever-so-slight hint at stereotype and start thinking of ways to make each race unique and my, how the lawsuits will flow.

 

example:

indian racial is +1 culinary skill. -100mil in courts.

whites jump height 2% less than the other races. -100mil in courts.

 

That's why. too close to social sensitive topics. Indians are still around...and wouldn't be very tolerant and understanding about this.

 

Total War doesn't seem to have a problem with it...

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  bakabröd

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8/07/12 11:40:18 PM#30

ask rockstar to make it :p

ill wait for a western themed mmo in the meanwhile.

 

  User Deleted
8/07/12 11:41:49 PM#31
I'm all in for a western themed mmo.  Would defnitely want Rockstar to do it !
  Robokapp

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8/07/12 11:42:00 PM#32

that's another point...what would PvE be like? granted, games like EVE can get by with very minimal pve due to their very strong crafting and trading systems...but a new mmo born with weak pve will need absolute stellar economic and socio-economic system to function.

 

I mean you can have an mmo about a fishing village and the surrounding fields in dark ages Italy. If it has a super-amazing agriculture and trade system and great pvp it can work, doesn't mean it hits too many bulletpoints in the PvE area though.

 

basically the more I read the thread the more I get the impression that it would work but only from the angle of "generic mmo with great features, skinned to be in that timeframe". rather than "the western MMO".

 

I mean take eve. remove space ships, change them into cyborgs on the surface of a planet. exact same everything. just different graphics and names. would still work. but not because a cyborg mmo is awesome.

  maplestone

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8/08/12 12:30:56 AM#33

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  nariusseldon

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8/08/12 1:52:12 AM#34
Originally posted by tank017

im sure devs think it'd be pretty boring...

 

pretty much every enemy would be human or some sort of modern day animal.

 

setting would be mostly desert id imagine..

 

 

pretty bland.

 

EDIT: Unless they make some Cowboys vs Aliens type cheesyness

Not only devs ... i think it is pretty boring too.

But it can be spiced up adding steam punk elements, undead .. or what-not.

  Ramadar

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8/08/12 1:53:50 AM#35
I think Deadlands from Pinnacle would make for a really cool western MMO setting.

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  Dragonantis

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8/08/12 1:54:57 AM#36

Would be something new but it wouldnt have much of a market outside North America.

Europeans dont care about cowboys.

  Adamantine

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8/08/12 3:13:28 AM#37

I have trouble thinking of a less appealing scenario.

1. The genocide that happends to the native americans.

2. The stealing of land by the invasion force.

3. The first form of concentration camps in history - reservations.

4. The enslavement of black people.

5. Basically no laws. Murder as "penatly" for stealing horses. Murder by mob whenever the mob feels like it.

6. All the other forms of stupidity, too.

Seriously, thanks, but no thanks.

 

  Phry

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8/08/12 3:19:39 AM#38
Originally posted by Dragonantis

Would be something new but it wouldnt have much of a market outside North America.

Europeans dont care about cowboys.

probably because european history books tend not to omit the bits the NA history books prefer to ignore. probably best to leave it at that. all things considered.

  Phry

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8/08/12 3:22:15 AM#39
Originally posted by Adamantine

I have trouble thinking of a less appealing scenario.

1. The genocide that happends to the native americans.

2. The stealing of land by the invasion force.

3. The first form of concentration camps in history - reservations.

4. The enslavement of black people.

5. Basically no laws. Murder as "penatly" for stealing horses. Murder by mob whenever the mob feels like it.

6. All the other forms of stupidity, too.

Seriously, thanks, but no thanks.

 

well, thats glossing over it a bit, but yeah.. generally that reason.

  jusomdude

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8/08/12 3:28:43 AM#40
Well us 'muricans did come from Europe.
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