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  someforumguy

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8/06/12 11:43:14 AM#41

Yeah, thanks a lot, Pokket :) I took your advice to heart and used it to approached my cute neighbour girl. She then punched me in the face! Before she wouldn't even look at me! Now she even touched me! Yay!

 

 

:p

  Weretigar

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If you watch a game, it’s fun. If you play it, it’s recreation. If you work at it, it’s FF-XIV.

8/06/12 12:02:33 PM#42

Seriously they need a guide to get ladys now? There is an easier way. 

Step 1 goto the mall.

Step 2 ask every hot girl for thier phone number.

Step 3 call hot girl and go on a date.

After you both decide you are monogamous you have a girl friend. If fails keep trying, it works girls just dont want you to know it does. However if you just looking to get laid then goto a bar and do it. Faster and more risks of disease win some to lose some i guess.

  Wickedjelly

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The Dude abides

8/06/12 12:05:25 PM#43
Originally posted by Weretigar

Seriously they need a guide to get ladys now? There is an easier way. 

Step 1 goto the mall.

Step 2 ask every hot girl for thier phone number.

Step 3 use chloroform and rag

Hey now....

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  Atibra

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Joined: 6/19/05
Posts: 65

8/06/12 12:07:16 PM#44

People really expect gamers to have any kind of social etiquette?  What game have you guys been playing where this actually exists?

Mature people in the world of gaming is the exception, not the norm:

First, you have to take into account that a large number of young young people play.

Second, you have to take into account that in a competetive environment, even the most mature of people will revert to a primal "fling poo" state.

Third, you have to take into account digital courage (i.e. i'm safe at home in my house, you can't touch me no matter what i say!)

Lastly, some people use games/internet simply to be polar opposites of their true selves (i.e. vent steam)..  if they are sitting around all day being curtious and kind and helping little old ladies across the street, there's the potential for surpressed anger/resentment to build up inside.  Better they act like a moron online then do something idiotic in real life.

  Weretigar

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Joined: 10/15/10
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If you watch a game, it’s fun. If you play it, it’s recreation. If you work at it, it’s FF-XIV.

8/06/12 12:07:43 PM#45
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Weretigar

Seriously they need a guide to get ladys now? There is an easier way. 

Step 1 goto the mall.

Step 2 ask every hot girl for thier phone number.

Step 3 use chloroform and rag

Hey now....

Well I guess if your a domer fan you could use this tactic aswell :P

  Sovrath

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Joined: 1/06/05
Posts: 17382

8/06/12 12:11:12 PM#46
Originally posted by Atibra

People really expect gamers to have any kind of social etiquette?  What game have you guys been playing where this actually exists?

Mature people in the world of gaming is the exception, not the norm:

First, you have to take into account that a large number of young young people play.

Second, you have to take into account that in a competetive environment, even the most mature of people will revert to a primal "fling poo" state.

Third, you have to take into account digital courage (i.e. i'm safe at home in my house, you can't touch me no matter what i say!)

Lastly, some people use games/internet simply to be polar opposites of their true selves (i.e. vent steam)..  if they are sitting around all day being curtious and kind and helping little old ladies across the street, there's the potential for surpressed anger/resentment to build up inside.  Better they act like a moron online then do something idiotic in real life.

Depe down I want you to be wrong but somehow i suspect you are right. *shivers*

  Yolen

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Joined: 8/06/12
Posts: 14

8/06/12 1:01:21 PM#47

Sorry, but reading all this makes author look in my mind like a cheerleader captain girl and not as a professional gamer.

I understand where Pokket's frustration comes but she acts as if she didn't understand looks, position, fame - all come with unwanted attention.

Wouldn't it be better if she just educated people how to REALLY approach a girl (and many don't know that) instead of making fun of people all while screaming "Look how many creeps want to get into my pants!"?

And creeps are really not a problem exclusive to gamer girls. If they really bug you why not just call the cops?

Also, because you base your identity on the fact you are a gamer girl and not a gamer, people who are often annoyed by chicks pretending to be gamers will doubt your credibility AS A GAMER.

Also, this is internet. So, you know... yeah...

So all of this looks like gloating about getting attention.

Well you obviously got ine seeing as how I registered just to comment on this. But not because it's a good text but because of how BAD it makes you look.

  Wickedjelly

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Joined: 4/19/09
Posts: 5064

The Dude abides

8/06/12 1:19:32 PM#48
Originally posted by Yolen

Sorry, but reading all this makes author look in my mind like a cheerleader captain girl and not as a professional gamer.

I understand where Pokket's frustration comes but she acts as if she didn't understand looks, position, fame - all come with unwanted attention.

Wouldn't it be better if she just educated people how to REALLY approach a girl (and many don't know that) instead of making fun of people all while screaming "Look how many creeps want to get into my pants!"?

And creeps are really not a problem exclusive to gamer girls. If they really bug you why not just call the cops?

Also, because you base your identity on the fact you are a gamer girl and not a gamer, people who are often annoyed by chicks pretending to be gamers will doubt your credibility AS A GAMER.

Also, this is internet. So, you know... yeah...

So all of this looks like gloating about getting attention.

Well you obviously got ine seeing as how I registered just to comment on this. But not because it's a good text but because of how BAD it makes you look.

 Look man...

Anyone that stalks or writes the type of posts she gave as an example doesn't deserve wasting the time. Not like she's referring to a poster that says, "Omg lolzers she so hot!" Pretty sure she's referring to people that actually insult her with every ounce of their being or simply write vile post after post trying to demean her in any way they can. There's no reasoning with them. If she did actually do what you suggested they would tear it to pieces anyways.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  Creslin321

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Joined: 2/27/09
Posts: 5424

8/06/12 1:25:45 PM#49

Honestly, I would take the last one (you are too attractive to be into the game) as a complement.

It's kind of like when you are doing so well in an FPS that everyone calls you a h4xx0r.  They basically can't accept that you can be that good, so you must be cheating.  Ultimate complement.

I know that I would feel pretty good about myself if someone thought that I was so out-of-their-league attractive that I couldn't possibly be into the same game they are lol :).

Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?

  Pretender00

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Joined: 10/29/10
Posts: 85

8/06/12 1:33:39 PM#50

She should live it up while she can. When age and gravity hits she'll have nothing. Not even a serious journalism career to fall back on. LOL

Then what will you do when those same internet fools won't even give you the time of day?

  lizardbones

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Joined: 6/11/08
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8/06/12 1:39:04 PM#51


Originally posted by Pretender00
She should live it up while she can. When age and gravity hits she'll have nothing. Not even a serious journalism career to fall back on. LOL

Then what will you do when those same internet fools won't even give you the time of day?




She will have had a career where her job was playing video games all day, and then more or less saying whatever she felt like saying about them. Sounds kind of like she's already won.

I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  Yolen

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Joined: 8/06/12
Posts: 14

8/06/12 1:39:37 PM#52
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Yolen

Sorry, but reading all this makes author look in my mind like a cheerleader captain girl and not as a professional gamer.

I understand where Pokket's frustration comes but she acts as if she didn't understand looks, position, fame - all come with unwanted attention.

Wouldn't it be better if she just educated people how to REALLY approach a girl (and many don't know that) instead of making fun of people all while screaming "Look how many creeps want to get into my pants!"?

And creeps are really not a problem exclusive to gamer girls. If they really bug you why not just call the cops?

Also, because you base your identity on the fact you are a gamer girl and not a gamer, people who are often annoyed by chicks pretending to be gamers will doubt your credibility AS A GAMER.

Also, this is internet. So, you know... yeah...

So all of this looks like gloating about getting attention.

Well you obviously got ine seeing as how I registered just to comment on this. But not because it's a good text but because of how BAD it makes you look.

 Look man...

Anyone that stalks or writes the type of posts she gave as an example doesn't deserve wasting the time. Not like she's referring to a poster that says, "Omg lolzers she so hot!" Pretty sure she's referring to people that actually insult her with every ounce of their being or simply write vile post after post trying to demean her in any way they can. There's no reasoning with them. If she did actually do what you suggested they would tear it to pieces anyways.

 

Yeah, they may be WELL BEYOND redemption. But what I'm talking is ore about stopping this stuff from happening in the first place. Aggression breeds more aggression.

All I'm saying it would be good if she used her fame and image to make positive impact and maybe help some shy guys score BEFORE they devolve in a writhing mass of self-loathing, self-pity, anger towards females etc. And maybe show some creeps "HEY, this is is how you SHOULD treat a woman".

Btw. You really read the article? It's all kept in a tone of how those guys want to get into her pants. Thats how I read it at least.

  Nailzzz

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Joined: 12/04/08
Posts: 489

8/06/12 1:40:01 PM#53
As I pointed out earlier. She does seem to have a high opinion of herself which sems to blind her to the fact that the quoted lines she uses from user comments about her do not actually reflect a desire to be with her. I don't really think the angle of complaining about how bad it must be for her to be geting all this unwanted male attention is a good way to go when without looking at usernames I would be tempted to believe that some of these comments may have been posted by other women given how the also seem consistent with how women tear each other down.
  WhiteLantern

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Joined: 1/27/10
Posts: 2779

8/06/12 1:40:34 PM#54
Originally posted by Pretender00

She should live it up while she can. When age and gravity hits she'll have nothing. Not even a serious journalism career to fall back on. LOL

Then what will you do when those same internet fools won't even give you the time of day?


So funny on so many levels.

 

 

targetaudiencemuch?

I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  Pokket

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Conquering tomorrow, one today at a time.

8/06/12 3:14:10 PM#55
Originally posted by Teekay

 BUT....do you still think you'd have a column on mmorpg Pokket if you weren't a female gamer, or people would watch your videos/twitch channel. You're internet (success??) is mostly attributable to the 'lack of' between your legs, use of eyeshadow and being not unnatractive, without that you would be an unknown face in the sea of male video game commentators. Yet you write articles like this lambasting those males who help put you where you are.

 Bite, hand and feeds spring to mind...  

I write an article "lambasting" males that behave like this because it is incorrect to relate my "success" on the "lack of" in between my legs. Unlike yourself, others take this one step further and actually hate on women like me for being female.

 

So I am left to conclude that because I am female, that is the only reason I am successful. So basically I should feel ashamed because of my gender... something that I cannot control. Something I was born as. Should I feel ashamed and wish I were male? That way at least my "success" would be "real".

 

You are sadly mistaken. I am successful for many other reasons beyond being a female. If you can't look past my gender, then you'll never see this, but despite people like you it really hasn't stopped me in my tracks or slowed me down. I stream, write columns, record, edit, and upload gameplay videos, guides, and vlogs, go to game conventions and interview developers, can have a real discussion about games (sometimes to the point of argument lol), and I even worked in the industry as QA for over a year.

 

I don't show off my "goods" and I don't make reference to my gender ever being a bonus. Women like me have the problem of everyone pre-judging them based on their gender. Automatically discrediting them and linking their "success" to the fact that they have boobs (even if they aren't ones to EVER take advantage of their assets - and yes there are plenty of girls out there like that).  

 

Guys just have a different problem: there are more to compete with so it is harder to get noticed.

 

I'm sorry, but men like you just sound bitter.

Youtube: PokketProductions | Twitter: @Pokketsays | Facebook: Pokketsays

  Pokket

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Conquering tomorrow, one today at a time.

8/06/12 3:22:58 PM#56
Originally posted by Nailzzz
As I pointed out earlier. She does seem to have a high opinion of herself which sems to blind her to the fact that the quoted lines she uses from user comments about her do not actually reflect a desire to be with her. I don't really think the angle of complaining about how bad it must be for her to be geting all this unwanted male attention is a good way to go when without looking at usernames I would be tempted to believe that some of these comments may have been posted by other women given how the also seem consistent with how women tear each other down.
 

 

I am not willing to share the emails and private messages I have received from people because it is far too embarassing (for them). As much as I don't agree with how they behave on the internet I'm just not willing to humiliate someone like that when a simple block/ignore usually takes care of it.

 

I posted pictures that were relevant to the more open and aggressive types. Anyone can find these comments on youtube. Not just on my videos, but on other games. In fact, the first picture isn't even on my video. It's on hers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz-8vy03a8U

 

Youtube: PokketProductions | Twitter: @Pokketsays | Facebook: Pokketsays

  User Deleted
8/06/12 3:29:28 PM#57
Originally posted by Pokket
Originally posted by Teekay

 BUT....do you still think you'd have a column on mmorpg Pokket if you weren't a female gamer, or people would watch your videos/twitch channel. You're internet (success??) is mostly attributable to the 'lack of' between your legs, use of eyeshadow and being not unnatractive, without that you would be an unknown face in the sea of male video game commentators. Yet you write articles like this lambasting those males who help put you where you are.

 Bite, hand and feeds spring to mind...  

I write an article "lambasting" males that behave like this because it is incorrect to relate my "success" on the "lack of" in between my legs. Unlike yourself, others take this one step further and actually hate on women like me for being female.

 

So I am left to conclude that because I am female, that is the only reason I am successful. So basically I should feel ashamed because of my gender... something that I cannot control. Something I was born as. Should I feel ashamed and wish I were male? That way at least my "success" would be "real".

 

You are sadly mistaken. I am successful for many other reasons beyond being a female. If you can't look past my gender, then you'll never see this, but despite people like you it really hasn't stopped me in my tracks or slowed me down. I stream, write columns, record, edit, and upload gameplay videos, guides, and vlogs, go to game conventions and interview developers, can have a real discussion about games (sometimes to the point of argument lol), and I even worked in the industry as QA for over a year.

 

I don't show off my "goods" and I don't make reference to my gender ever being a bonus. Women like me have the problem of everyone pre-judging them based on their gender. Automatically discrediting them and linking their "success" to the fact that they have boobs (even if they aren't ones to EVER take advantage of their assets - and yes there are plenty of girls out there like that).  

 

Guys just have a different problem: there are more to compete with so it is harder to get noticed.

 

I'm sorry, but men like you just sound bitter.

lady be honest, you have to at least admit that the attention you get is for your looks 1st and then comes your talent. there are plenty women out there who can do what you do in a far better way but most of them won't get a chance at that because they are not as pretty as you. i don't mean any disrespect but that's an ugly truth and you are not even responsible for that. you are talented of course but because the world is "ruled by men" the 1st thing we look at is your pretty face and then your talent, i can be honest about that.  it's a thing going on forever, we men like to take advantage of women. look at legendary hollywood female actors, do you see anyone who is not good looking, i have a friend who works in stage, she is a talented actor but she never got any offers from any kind of film or tv producers in my country, even a dumb girl(hate that bitch) in extra role got contract with a major production house for her stunning look and racks but friend is always passed over. you can say that there are lots of pretty girl, so they should be successful in what you do as well but as i have said, you have got talent, for women; beauty is necessary along with talent. we men don't look at talented women if they don't have racks, but please don't take it as an insult.  

  Pokket

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8/06/12 3:34:01 PM#58
Originally posted by Yolen

Wouldn't it be better if she just educated people how to REALLY approach a girl (and many don't know that) instead of making fun of people all while screaming "Look how many creeps want to get into my pants!"?

 

This wasn't meant to be a dating article. I used satire to get across the rediculousness of the way a lot of people behave on the internet and the fact that they think this behave is okay simply because of anonymity. It's not okay to hate on someone for their race or gender in real life, so why do we tolerate it on the internet? 

 

I find that writing a nice article filled with fairies, sparkles, and sunshine sauce would have completely ruined the point. The point isn't a nice one, it is a negative one. It is one that I feel needs to be changed. Not for me, but for all women. Go to ANY female's youtube channel and check out some of her comments. She's bound to get crap just for being a female.

 

 

Originally posted by Pretender00

She should live it up while she can. When age and gravity hits she'll have nothing. Not even a serious journalism career to fall back on. LOL

Then what will you do when those same internet fools won't even give you the time of day?

Thank you for proving my point ~.^

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  Gaenjin

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8/06/12 3:43:15 PM#59
Originally posted by Kyleran
One even managed to track down far too much of my personal life and echo it back to me.

Funny story: 

Several years ago, before website comments really took off, I had posted a comment to an article on a website that made our public emails *purposely* available for trolls to reply and harrass anyone who posted comments. (site was eventually sued and stopped the practise)

So I started getting some really nasty troll emails from this particular asshat, who seemed to think that his anonymity protected him.  So I decided to teach him otherwise.  I tracked him down and learned his name, where he worked (a professor @ MIT o.O) and where he lived, right down to the street and apartment building.  I then echoed that information back to him.

So, he replies, in true troll fashion: "You know my name and where I live, so what?"

I replied back, "Thanks for confirming, I'm coming to visit."

I never heard back from him again.  :)

Moral of the story:  There's no place to hide on the Internet.

  Samhael

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Posts: 621

8/06/12 3:47:07 PM#60
I believe it would have been much more professional to just ignore this than to call attention to it.
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