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  Bladestrom

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Joined: 4/04/11
Posts: 3848

8/05/12 2:46:00 PM#341
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by evolver1972
 

Edit:  Isn't that different than most MMOs?  Most MMOs fundamentally change the gameplay at max level.  GW2 doesn't.  And you still don't have to repeat what you've already done, you can go to different areas and still have a bit of a challenge.  I think that's a good thing.

Can't you see  they give you less and now are telling you it's new, innovative and more?

 

Swtor was crucified for having no endgame. Hell it even launched with raids. There will be more endgame in swtor than Gw2 at launch.

False.  If lvl 1 - 80 zones are always viable content due to scaling, GW2 has more content, not less.

It has down scaling. The content did not change. 

 

It's really a stretch to consider going back and doing content you missed while leveling endgame... imo..

 

ok here is the arguement we hear ' raiding is great' what is raiding? repeats a 3 hour instance for hundreds of hours.  take GW2 out of the loop, would wow be great if you downscaled for every zone in wow  so you could play in any zone you fancied at any time, and still get a meaningful challenge with rewards?

rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW (10000 hrs on main mage)> oblivion > LOTR (600 runemaster/Hunter) > Rift (230 hours mage) > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar

Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR

  Raven

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Joined: 5/20/06
Posts: 1987

"Only the dead have seen the end of war" Plato

8/05/12 2:48:49 PM#342
Originally posted by Zylaxx
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by Bladestrom
To atinania, you dinged 80 in gw2 and have dinged 80 in a typical mmorg. Gw2 offers several hundred hours worth of viable content over a typical mmorg that has maybe 10. Get it yet?

Can you make a list?, because people here keep saying that but i didnt find a single thing that gw2 have and other mmo doesnt, just the thing that gw doesnt have long term progression. 

I do not want this to be taken the wrong way but why do you continue to come to the GW2 sub-forums if you dont like the game.  I think your either a closet fan who intends to play or a glutton for punishment.  Say your peace and move on please, you dont need to respond negatively to every GW2 thread.

I dont know how you extrapolated from his comment that he doesnt like the game, he never said it, he said he didnt find a thing that gw2 had and other mmos dont and that gw doesnt have long term progression. But I suppose when you have blind faith in something its easy to see any criticism as "attacking something you dont like".

Also what is the rationale for him not being able to discuss whatever he wants on the GW2 forums, even if he didnt like the game? If I dont like Obama does that mean I can't have a discussion on a public forum about him? Afaik this forum isn't for GW2 fans. ( this goes for any game here really ).

Just wanted to add that really, I dont really know what the GW2 end game is, but I will find out when it's released. 

  Raven

Novice Member

Joined: 5/20/06
Posts: 1987

"Only the dead have seen the end of war" Plato

8/05/12 2:49:59 PM#343
Originally posted by Bladestrom
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by evolver1972
 

Edit:  Isn't that different than most MMOs?  Most MMOs fundamentally change the gameplay at max level.  GW2 doesn't.  And you still don't have to repeat what you've already done, you can go to different areas and still have a bit of a challenge.  I think that's a good thing.

Can't you see  they give you less and now are telling you it's new, innovative and more?

 

Swtor was crucified for having no endgame. Hell it even launched with raids. There will be more endgame in swtor than Gw2 at launch.

False.  If lvl 1 - 80 zones are always viable content due to scaling, GW2 has more content, not less.

It has down scaling. The content did not change. 

 

It's really a stretch to consider going back and doing content you missed while leveling endgame... imo..

 

ok here is the arguement we hear ' raiding is great' what is raiding? repeats a 3 hour instance for hundreds of hours.  take GW2 out of the loop, would wow be great if you downscaled for every zone in wow  so you could play in any zone you fancied at any time, and still get a meaningful challenge with rewards?

How do you respond to people that have played the downscaling game and have found that they have rolled through the content in much the same way as if they hadnt been downscaled? Some of them have posted on this very thread.

  Bladestrom

Elite Member

Joined: 4/04/11
Posts: 3848

8/05/12 2:59:53 PM#344
Originally posted by Raven
Originally posted by Bladestrom
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by evolver1972
 

Edit:  Isn't that different than most MMOs?  Most MMOs fundamentally change the gameplay at max level.  GW2 doesn't.  And you still don't have to repeat what you've already done, you can go to different areas and still have a bit of a challenge.  I think that's a good thing.

Can't you see  they give you less and now are telling you it's new, innovative and more?

 

Swtor was crucified for having no endgame. Hell it even launched with raids. There will be more endgame in swtor than Gw2 at launch.

False.  If lvl 1 - 80 zones are always viable content due to scaling, GW2 has more content, not less.

It has down scaling. The content did not change. 

 

It's really a stretch to consider going back and doing content you missed while leveling endgame... imo..

 

ok here is the arguement we hear ' raiding is great' what is raiding? repeats a 3 hour instance for hundreds of hours.  take GW2 out of the loop, would wow be great if you downscaled for every zone in wow  so you could play in any zone you fancied at any time, and still get a meaningful challenge with rewards?

How do you respond to people that have played the downscaling game and have found that they have rolled through the content in much the same way as if they hadnt been downscaled? Some of them have posted on this very thread.

  your referring to balancing, if the balancing is done right then the mechanism works.  The mechanism is not flawed, it needs to be balanced, i.e in BWE 3 Anet reported there was a bug that caused the content to be easier than it was in BWE2.

So if it is balanced well , would it be a good thing in WOW?

 

rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW (10000 hrs on main mage)> oblivion > LOTR (600 runemaster/Hunter) > Rift (230 hours mage) > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar

Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR

  bcbully

Elite Member

Joined: 3/03/12
Posts: 7648

8/05/12 3:02:15 PM#345
Originally posted by Adzija

Very simple. At 80 you mostly do same stuff you did before you were 80. Anet said it and it's not a secret.

There are lot of lists in posts before but all those things you do boefore 80.

 

Bottom line : if you liked playing game while leveling there is no reason not to like it once you hit 80 because it's about same. If you didn't like it while leveling then why do you play.

A breath of fresh air.

  Raven

Novice Member

Joined: 5/20/06
Posts: 1987

"Only the dead have seen the end of war" Plato

8/05/12 3:07:35 PM#346
Originally posted by Bladestrom
Originally posted by Raven
Originally posted by Bladestrom
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by evolver1972
 

Edit:  Isn't that different than most MMOs?  Most MMOs fundamentally change the gameplay at max level.  GW2 doesn't.  And you still don't have to repeat what you've already done, you can go to different areas and still have a bit of a challenge.  I think that's a good thing.

Can't you see  they give you less and now are telling you it's new, innovative and more?

 

Swtor was crucified for having no endgame. Hell it even launched with raids. There will be more endgame in swtor than Gw2 at launch.

False.  If lvl 1 - 80 zones are always viable content due to scaling, GW2 has more content, not less.

It has down scaling. The content did not change. 

 

It's really a stretch to consider going back and doing content you missed while leveling endgame... imo..

 

ok here is the arguement we hear ' raiding is great' what is raiding? repeats a 3 hour instance for hundreds of hours.  take GW2 out of the loop, would wow be great if you downscaled for every zone in wow  so you could play in any zone you fancied at any time, and still get a meaningful challenge with rewards?

How do you respond to people that have played the downscaling game and have found that they have rolled through the content in much the same way as if they hadnt been downscaled? Some of them have posted on this very thread.

  your referring to balancing, if the balancing is done right then the mechanism works.  The mechanism is not flawed, it needs to be balanced, i.e in BWE 3 Anet reported there was a bug that caused the content to be easier than it was in BWE2.

So if it is balanced well , would it be a good thing in WOW?

 

I dont know, it sounds good on paper, but even without downscaling I did a lot of stuff that was lower level regardless, I have in WoW pretty much exalted on every single faction, have done every instance and pretty much every achievement relating to quests, exploration and events.

So the question shouldn't really be directed at me but at people who don't do this, would that be enough to get them out of the zone that they last leveled in, into doing low level content, then there is the question of people who do all or most of the content on their first go, how good will that system be for them? I am gonna be honest apart from reputations and specific achievements relating to areas, I have done pretty much all areas there were maybe a couple of areas which were twinned for the same level range that I didnt do.  And still went back to those for specific achievements and/or reputation.

  Aelious

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Joined: 9/27/11
Posts: 2546

World > Quest Progression

8/05/12 3:09:05 PM#347
You're not playing the same content at 80. There would be four other 1-15 areas to go back to as well as the other tiered ones between. I would argue that at 80 you've probably only seen 60-65% of the explorable map.
  Bladestrom

Elite Member

Joined: 4/04/11
Posts: 3848

8/05/12 3:11:10 PM#348
Originally posted by Raven
Originally posted by Bladestrom
Originally posted by Raven
Originally posted by Bladestrom
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by evolver1972
 

Edit:  Isn't that different than most MMOs?  Most MMOs fundamentally change the gameplay at max level.  GW2 doesn't.  And you still don't have to repeat what you've already done, you can go to different areas and still have a bit of a challenge.  I think that's a good thing.

Can't you see  they give you less and now are telling you it's new, innovative and more?

 

Swtor was crucified for having no endgame. Hell it even launched with raids. There will be more endgame in swtor than Gw2 at launch.

False.  If lvl 1 - 80 zones are always viable content due to scaling, GW2 has more content, not less.

It has down scaling. The content did not change. 

 

It's really a stretch to consider going back and doing content you missed while leveling endgame... imo..

 

ok here is the arguement we hear ' raiding is great' what is raiding? repeats a 3 hour instance for hundreds of hours.  take GW2 out of the loop, would wow be great if you downscaled for every zone in wow  so you could play in any zone you fancied at any time, and still get a meaningful challenge with rewards?

How do you respond to people that have played the downscaling game and have found that they have rolled through the content in much the same way as if they hadnt been downscaled? Some of them have posted on this very thread.

  your referring to balancing, if the balancing is done right then the mechanism works.  The mechanism is not flawed, it needs to be balanced, i.e in BWE 3 Anet reported there was a bug that caused the content to be easier than it was in BWE2.

So if it is balanced well , would it be a good thing in WOW?

 

I dont know, it sounds good on paper, but even without downscaling I did a lot of stuff that was lower level regardless, I have in WoW pretty much exalted on every single faction, have done every instance and pretty much every achievement relating to quests, exploration and events.

So the question shouldn't really be directed at me but at people who don't do this, would that be enough to get them out of the zone that they last leveled in, into doing low level content, then there is the question of people who do all or most of the content on their first go, how good will that system be for them? I am gonna be honest apart from reputations and specific achievements relating to areas, I have done pretty much all areas there were maybe a couple of areas which were twinned for the same level range that I didnt do.  And still went back to those for specific achievements and/or reputation.

if you look at wow, people love doing alts, and part of that is because they love going through the existing zones.  GW2 simply provides a mechanism where you can do that with your main, so it adds options (you can still alt) which can only be a good thing.

rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW (10000 hrs on main mage)> oblivion > LOTR (600 runemaster/Hunter) > Rift (230 hours mage) > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar

Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR

  Raven

Novice Member

Joined: 5/20/06
Posts: 1987

"Only the dead have seen the end of war" Plato

8/05/12 3:13:42 PM#349
Originally posted by Bladestrom
Originally posted by Raven
Originally posted by Bladestrom
Originally posted by Raven
Originally posted by Bladestrom
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by evolver1972
 

Edit:  Isn't that different than most MMOs?  Most MMOs fundamentally change the gameplay at max level.  GW2 doesn't.  And you still don't have to repeat what you've already done, you can go to different areas and still have a bit of a challenge.  I think that's a good thing.

Can't you see  they give you less and now are telling you it's new, innovative and more?

 

Swtor was crucified for having no endgame. Hell it even launched with raids. There will be more endgame in swtor than Gw2 at launch.

False.  If lvl 1 - 80 zones are always viable content due to scaling, GW2 has more content, not less.

It has down scaling. The content did not change. 

 

It's really a stretch to consider going back and doing content you missed while leveling endgame... imo..

 

ok here is the arguement we hear ' raiding is great' what is raiding? repeats a 3 hour instance for hundreds of hours.  take GW2 out of the loop, would wow be great if you downscaled for every zone in wow  so you could play in any zone you fancied at any time, and still get a meaningful challenge with rewards?

How do you respond to people that have played the downscaling game and have found that they have rolled through the content in much the same way as if they hadnt been downscaled? Some of them have posted on this very thread.

  your referring to balancing, if the balancing is done right then the mechanism works.  The mechanism is not flawed, it needs to be balanced, i.e in BWE 3 Anet reported there was a bug that caused the content to be easier than it was in BWE2.

So if it is balanced well , would it be a good thing in WOW?

 

I dont know, it sounds good on paper, but even without downscaling I did a lot of stuff that was lower level regardless, I have in WoW pretty much exalted on every single faction, have done every instance and pretty much every achievement relating to quests, exploration and events.

So the question shouldn't really be directed at me but at people who don't do this, would that be enough to get them out of the zone that they last leveled in, into doing low level content, then there is the question of people who do all or most of the content on their first go, how good will that system be for them? I am gonna be honest apart from reputations and specific achievements relating to areas, I have done pretty much all areas there were maybe a couple of areas which were twinned for the same level range that I didnt do.  And still went back to those for specific achievements and/or reputation.

if you look at wow, people love doing alts, and part of that is because they love going through the existing zones.  GW2 simply provides a mechanism where you can do that with your main, so it adds options (you can still alt) which can only be a good thing.

I would argue that people make alts because they like to play other classes as well. But since we have no data on either its a bit of speculation.

But I agree for the other faction it was a completely new leveling experience when I did it. So I assume some people must have done it to experience the other side of the game as well.

  Bladestrom

Elite Member

Joined: 4/04/11
Posts: 3848

8/05/12 3:16:58 PM#350
Originally posted by Raven
Originally posted by Bladestrom
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Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by evolver1972
 

Edit:  Isn't that different than most MMOs?  Most MMOs fundamentally change the gameplay at max level.  GW2 doesn't.  And you still don't have to repeat what you've already done, you can go to different areas and still have a bit of a challenge.  I think that's a good thing.

Can't you see  they give you less and now are telling you it's new, innovative and more?

 

Swtor was crucified for having no endgame. Hell it even launched with raids. There will be more endgame in swtor than Gw2 at launch.

False.  If lvl 1 - 80 zones are always viable content due to scaling, GW2 has more content, not less.

It has down scaling. The content did not change. 

 

It's really a stretch to consider going back and doing content you missed while leveling endgame... imo..

 

ok here is the arguement we hear ' raiding is great' what is raiding? repeats a 3 hour instance for hundreds of hours.  take GW2 out of the loop, would wow be great if you downscaled for every zone in wow  so you could play in any zone you fancied at any time, and still get a meaningful challenge with rewards?

How do you respond to people that have played the downscaling game and have found that they have rolled through the content in much the same way as if they hadnt been downscaled? Some of them have posted on this very thread.

  your referring to balancing, if the balancing is done right then the mechanism works.  The mechanism is not flawed, it needs to be balanced, i.e in BWE 3 Anet reported there was a bug that caused the content to be easier than it was in BWE2.

So if it is balanced well , would it be a good thing in WOW?

 

I dont know, it sounds good on paper, but even without downscaling I did a lot of stuff that was lower level regardless, I have in WoW pretty much exalted on every single faction, have done every instance and pretty much every achievement relating to quests, exploration and events.

So the question shouldn't really be directed at me but at people who don't do this, would that be enough to get them out of the zone that they last leveled in, into doing low level content, then there is the question of people who do all or most of the content on their first go, how good will that system be for them? I am gonna be honest apart from reputations and specific achievements relating to areas, I have done pretty much all areas there were maybe a couple of areas which were twinned for the same level range that I didnt do.  And still went back to those for specific achievements and/or reputation.

if you look at wow, people love doing alts, and part of that is because they love going through the existing zones.  GW2 simply provides a mechanism where you can do that with your main, so it adds options (you can still alt) which can only be a good thing.

I would argue that people make alts because they like to play other classes as well. But since we have no data on either its a bit of speculation.

yep 'as well', thats my point, nothing more. I enjoy doing old quest in wow, and ive played that for years, i enjoy alting, what i miss is being able to play old content with my main.  All Anet have done is add that final option for those that are interested.

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  hikaru77

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Posts: 1013

8/05/12 3:19:14 PM#351
Originally posted by Zylaxx
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by Bladestrom
To atinania, you dinged 80 in gw2 and have dinged 80 in a typical mmorg. Gw2 offers several hundred hours worth of viable content over a typical mmorg that has maybe 10. Get it yet?

Can you make a list?, because people here keep saying that but i didnt find a single thing that gw2 have and other mmo doesnt, just the thing that gw doesnt have long term progression. 

I do not want this to be taken the wrong way but why do you continue to come to the GW2 sub-forums if you dont like the game.  I think your either a closet fan who intends to play or a glutton for punishment.  Say your peace and move on please, you dont need to respond negatively to every GW2 thread.

I brought the game and i like it for what it is, a casual ¨e-sport¨ game, i also have played gw1 and all the expansions. The problem is all the people here talking about the ¨messiah¨ of the MMO genre, they are hurting the game tbh, and one of the biggest problems that we will find in gw2 is the community, is full of fanboys who cant see the real problems that the game have, i mean when we are talking about no endgame, and no long term progression, the fanboys say, ¨there is a lot to do in gw2, you know nothing about the game¨ but when we ask for a list, they fail making one and at the end, we all lose because people will get bored pretty fast and for the people like me who love the WvWvW, and empty battlefield is not fun at all, and i dont wanna play  ¨doorwars 2.0¨and without changesm that what will happen after less than a month. 

  bcbully

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8/05/12 3:19:36 PM#352
 
  Grahor

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8/05/12 3:29:05 PM#353

There are following activities available after you hit max lvl: PvP, rolling alts, exploring the areas of the game you haven't seen, grind for purely cosmetic achievements.

 

That's pretty much the most _any_ mmorpg can offer, with the exception of gear threadmill/raiding, which is insane. I will not play a game with gear threadmill/raiding.

 

The thing that I'll be doing in the GW2 after max lvl is PvP. Nothing else interests me at all.

  Aelious

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Joined: 9/27/11
Posts: 2546

World > Quest Progression

8/05/12 3:31:37 PM#354
Hikaru,

I think you care too much about how other people feel about a game. It's exactly like what happens when hype hurts a game. It hurts because people care about what others think about a game as much or more than they themselves feel about a game.

If you only want to play GW2 because of the PvP more power to you. Stating that's all it is to everyone else is flat out false. You should know better.
  Adzija

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Joined: 6/11/12
Posts: 58

8/05/12 3:35:33 PM#355

Ah yea..forgot to post what I will do when I hit 80 so here is the list:

-Explore areas I missed

-Do DE's that I like and ones I find while exploring

-Orr

-Try to get the gear I like that looks best for me

-sPVP

-WvWvW

-Get filthy rich

-Hang with my guild/friends in game

-Dungeons

-Minigames

-Level alts

There is probably something that I can't remeber now but all those points I posted above should keep me busy for a while

 

  trillgod

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Joined: 3/15/12
Posts: 52

8/05/12 3:46:35 PM#356
Originally posted by Adzija

Ah yea..forgot to post what I will do when I hit 80 so here is the list:

-Explore areas I missed

-Do DE's that I like and ones I find while exploring

-Orr

-Try to get the gear I like that looks best for me

-sPVP

-WvWvW

-Get filthy rich

-Hang with my guild/friends in game

-Dungeons

-Minigames

-Level alts

There is probably something that I can't remeber now but all those points I posted above should keep me busy for a while

 

so pretty much youre standard grind end game

  Bladestrom

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Joined: 4/04/11
Posts: 3848

8/05/12 3:51:01 PM#357
Originally posted by trillgod
Originally posted by Adzija

Ah yea..forgot to post what I will do when I hit 80 so here is the list:

-Explore areas I missed

-Do DE's that I like and ones I find while exploring

-Orr

-Try to get the gear I like that looks best for me

-sPVP

-WvWvW

-Get filthy rich

-Hang with my guild/friends in game

-Dungeons

-Minigames

-Level alts

There is probably something that I can't remeber now but all those points I posted above should keep me busy for a while

 

so pretty much youre standard grind end game

this thread should get locked its going in circles.

rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW (10000 hrs on main mage)> oblivion > LOTR (600 runemaster/Hunter) > Rift (230 hours mage) > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar

Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR

  Adzija

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Joined: 6/11/12
Posts: 58

8/05/12 3:51:10 PM#358
Originally posted by trillgod
Originally posted by Adzija

Ah yea..forgot to post what I will do when I hit 80 so here is the list:

-Explore areas I missed

-Do DE's that I like and ones I find while exploring

-Orr

-Try to get the gear I like that looks best for me

-sPVP

-WvWvW

-Get filthy rich

-Hang with my guild/friends in game

-Dungeons

-Minigames

-Level alts

There is probably something that I can't remeber now but all those points I posted above should keep me busy for a while

 

so pretty much youre standard grind end game

Well..If you have no fun while doing all that and still do it then yea...it's grind.

I'll try to have fun and when I stop having fun I'll stop doing it (not like I wasted money on sub and now I have to make it worth)

  Badaboom

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Posts: 2401

8/05/12 4:17:12 PM#359
Everyone, repeat after me..."all game."
  UsulDaNeriak

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Posts: 642

8/05/12 4:24:40 PM#360

The best endgame of GW2 is watching the discussions between lovers and haters. Thats great, I can play the endgame even before the game actually launched. But SWTOR was way better in this department. Unfortunately these great discussions about SWTOR ended way too early, because the haters did win as expected. But i am very sure, with GW2 the show will last much longer.

But i have to stop here, i did run out of popcorn ....

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