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General Discussion  » Let's do this -- Guess GW2's final CRITIC metacritic score

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  Paragus1

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8/03/12 2:52:02 PM#81
I'm guessing around a 90.

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  just1opinion

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8/03/12 2:54:08 PM#82

 

I think people voted AWFULLY high considering it's MetaCritic.  They're just not very generous.  I love GW2, but I bet it doesn't score over 85 and that's being optimistic.

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  pmcubed

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8/03/12 2:56:18 PM#83
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by pmcubed
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OP - take a lesson in social-statistics.

your scales ranges are inconsistant and the fact there is no ranges for anything below 70 notes your obvious bias.

if you want a fair and unbiased metacritic score, you have construct yout pole better.

Anyone who think that GW2 will get <70% on metacritic is being completely unrealistic.  Sorry, but the poll is fine ;).

At least make the ranges consistant.  This is the reason why China is winning.

 The poll is constructed in similar fashion to how the +/- grading scale works:

http://people.sunyit.edu/~boylank/scale.html

lol. similar.... try mirroring that.  you obvious made arbitrary scales for some reason that I can only attribute to laziness or you are trying to coerce people into choosing a score that you had a personal connecton to.  It is unethical.

 Yes I am uethical, go ahead and report me to the BBB lol. It's just a freaking poll.  It's off by ONE number from that scale.  ONE NUMBER.  And this is out of a 100 point scale.

Also, what agenda do I have here?  How am I trying to coerce people to choose something?

Over-hype~  

Not that I think GW2 will do poorly or receive anything lower than 70 - but looking at the history of over-hyped MMO's.... I think you know the harm in this.  

Guild Wars does a lot of things right and will sell a ton of copies, but are people ACTUALLY ready to separate themselves from the trinity?  Can they adapt to the skill-based 'twitchy' style of combat?  

PVP has a pretty steep learning curve which lends itself to a niche audience.  A few weekends isn't enough time to get a clear enough picture of GW2's potential longetivy and/or metascore.

Though, I'm sure you'll agree with me here.  It is pretty fun. lol

  BadSpock

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8/03/12 2:56:22 PM#84
Originally posted by just1opinion

 

I think people voted AWFULLY high considering it's MetaCritic.  They're just not very generous.  I love GW2, but I bet it doesn't score over 85 and that's being optimistic.


If TOR gets an 85 with 73 Critic reviews...

 

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  PalmyCloud

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8/03/12 3:11:06 PM#85

I voted 93-97.

What I normally expect to happen when a really good game is in beta stage just close to launch, that certain critics start to adjust their standards. A sign for that is that a game that would have expected to score 85 points, drops down to something like 70 points. Now lets get hypothetical: TSW is not out and release dates are variables.

In this Case (1:) I think TSW chose the worst release date possible. Reason: GW2 Beta, Result 70 Points for TSW

Case 2: TSW releases after GW2(win): The score might be lower but generally beta previews are an indicator for best case scenario in most cases. So critics would have been the same. Result 70 Points for TSW

Case 3: TSW releases after GW2(fail): TSW would actually look better thus it scores higher. About 75-80 Points for TSW

My point here is that I think this effect just happened, as in our example case 1 proved to be the case.

But you also have to differentiate between Critics that adjust and ones that do not adjust their standards (or simply did not know about adjustments or in this case about GW2;-)). I would say this site is just an example for critics that do not receive adjustment effects. To put it simple, the game is better compared to all other MMOs and adjusting sites do not care, they generally avoid giving scores 93. They will find their "negatives" anyways: graphics lower than tera, SWTOR has better VO, no raids, no mounts, etc. Just what you would expect^^

Conclusion:

Adjusted Critics: Score: 90-93

Non Adjusted Critics: Score: 95-100

I also expect a few extremely low scores.

 

 

Anyways MoP's Score is far more interesting I think.


Edit: Does this poll mean it will score a user rating of 81.8, at least on release. Just kidding^^

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  just1opinion

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8/03/12 3:42:38 PM#86

 

So when is this Metacritic score going to be available?  I'm really curious now.

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  just1opinion

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8/03/12 3:43:50 PM#87
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by just1opinion

 

I think people voted AWFULLY high considering it's MetaCritic.  They're just not very generous.  I love GW2, but I bet it doesn't score over 85 and that's being optimistic.


If TOR gets an 85 with 73 Critic reviews...

 

 

You have a point, but Star Wars name probably garnered more attention than this will.  I guess we'll see.  I wish they'd hurry up about it, the curiosity is driving me bananas.

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  seridan

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8/03/12 3:47:43 PM#88
Originally posted by just1opinion

 

So when is this Metacritic score going to be available?  I'm really curious now.


Well, about 2-3 weeks after launch I guess

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  Creslin321

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8/03/12 5:17:09 PM#89
Originally posted by pmcubed
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by pmcubed
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by pmcubed
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by pmcubed

OP - take a lesson in social-statistics.

your scales ranges are inconsistant and the fact there is no ranges for anything below 70 notes your obvious bias.

if you want a fair and unbiased metacritic score, you have construct yout pole better.

Anyone who think that GW2 will get <70% on metacritic is being completely unrealistic.  Sorry, but the poll is fine ;).

At least make the ranges consistant.  This is the reason why China is winning.

 The poll is constructed in similar fashion to how the +/- grading scale works:

http://people.sunyit.edu/~boylank/scale.html

lol. similar.... try mirroring that.  you obvious made arbitrary scales for some reason that I can only attribute to laziness or you are trying to coerce people into choosing a score that you had a personal connecton to.  It is unethical.

 Yes I am uethical, go ahead and report me to the BBB lol. It's just a freaking poll.  It's off by ONE number from that scale.  ONE NUMBER.  And this is out of a 100 point scale.

Also, what agenda do I have here?  How am I trying to coerce people to choose something?

Over-hype~  

Not that I think GW2 will do poorly or receive anything lower than 70 - but looking at the history of over-hyped MMO's.... I think you know the harm in this.  

Guild Wars does a lot of things right and will sell a ton of copies, but are people ACTUALLY ready to separate themselves from the trinity?  Can they adapt to the skill-based 'twitchy' style of combat?  

PVP has a pretty steep learning curve which lends itself to a niche audience.  A few weekends isn't enough time to get a clear enough picture of GW2's potential longetivy and/or metascore.

Though, I'm sure you'll agree with me here.  It is pretty fun. lol

So my agenda...in making a poll that doesn't delineate scores <70 further...is to over-hype the game?

Look...

This is metacritic.  I don't think a single AAA MMORPG has EVER received <70 there.  The reasons I grouped them all into one category is because it's EXTREMELY unlikely that GW2 will get <70...and I only have 10 poll choices possible, so I have to cut something out.

If you think that this is over-hyping the game...then you must think a great many things are over-hyped.

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  Morv

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8/03/12 5:20:51 PM#90
73ish, it's an interesting direction to take an online game but far from an MMORPG like most of the games released today.
  Meowhead

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8/03/12 5:33:13 PM#91
Originally posted by Morv
73ish, it's an interesting direction to take an online game but far from an MMORPG like most of the games released today.

 You are aware that metacritic scores by professional reviewers are determined basically by game reviewers, not a huge group of 'sandbox MMORPG' reviewers who base their scores off of how much it reaches some mythical 'mmorpg standard', right?

They'll rate it determined off of how good of a game it is.

  fiontar

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8/03/12 5:38:04 PM#92

Definitely in the 90s. I just can't imagine what you would dock points from the score from with this game. It offers everything a great MMORPG should offer and, in many cases, offers something better than other MMOs have ever offered. No game is perfect, not if GW2, but I don't see any deficiencies any where and if you break down individual elements they all score very high.

GW2 is made up of excellent parts and then goes on to offer something much more than just the sum of those parts.

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  eyelolled

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8/03/12 5:56:20 PM#93
I'm going to say ~92

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  Morv

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8/03/12 5:58:16 PM#94
Originally posted by Meowhead
Originally posted by Morv
73ish, it's an interesting direction to take an online game but far from an MMORPG like most of the games released today.

 You are aware that metacritic scores by professional reviewers are determined basically by game reviewers, not a huge group of 'sandbox MMORPG' reviewers who base their scores off of how much it reaches some mythical 'mmorpg standard', right?

Yup, I do.

They'll rate it determined off of how good of a game it is.

and 73 is what I rate it... /shrug It does not meet any standard higher than that as far as I'm concerned.

  Meowhead

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8/03/12 5:59:26 PM#95
Originally posted by Morv

and 73 is what I rate it... /shrug It does not meet any standard higher than that as far as I'm concerned.

 Oh!  I'm sorry.  I wasn't aware you were actually Metacritic.  I'm sorry sir.  :)

  Creslin321

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8/03/12 6:01:21 PM#96
Originally posted by Morv
Originally posted by Meowhead
Originally posted by Morv
73ish, it's an interesting direction to take an online game but far from an MMORPG like most of the games released today.

 You are aware that metacritic scores by professional reviewers are determined basically by game reviewers, not a huge group of 'sandbox MMORPG' reviewers who base their scores off of how much it reaches some mythical 'mmorpg standard', right?

Yup, I do.

They'll rate it determined off of how good of a game it is.

and 73 is what I rate it... /shrug It does not meet any standard higher than that as far as I'm concerned.

The idea is to guess what its actual metascore will be, not to rate it yourself.  If 73 is your guess, then so be it...but given the metascores of other recent AAA MMORPGs...73 is a poor guess indeed.

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  Morv

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8/03/12 6:02:54 PM#97
Originally posted by Meowhead
Originally posted by Morv
73ish, it's an interesting direction to take an online game but far from an MMORPG like most of the games released today.

 You are aware that metacritic scores by professional reviewers are determined basically by game reviewers, not a huge group of 'sandbox MMORPG' reviewers who base their scores off of how much it reaches some mythical 'mmorpg standard', right?

They'll rate it determined off of how good of a game it is.

I wanted to add that I have nothing against the game, I look forward to it actually and have already purchased it. Maybe I will do a write up on why I would judge it that way complete with a detailed analysis and comparison of historical online games, MMORPGs, and single player RPGs and why I think the standards of an online game / MMORPG have slipped incredibly far down the quality scale to mediocrity at its best.

  Morv

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8/03/12 6:04:59 PM#98
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by Morv
Originally posted by Meowhead
Originally posted by Morv
73ish, it's an interesting direction to take an online game but far from an MMORPG like most of the games released today.

 You are aware that metacritic scores by professional reviewers are determined basically by game reviewers, not a huge group of 'sandbox MMORPG' reviewers who base their scores off of how much it reaches some mythical 'mmorpg standard', right?

Yup, I do.

They'll rate it determined off of how good of a game it is.

and 73 is what I rate it... /shrug It does not meet any standard higher than that as far as I'm concerned.

The idea is to guess what its actual metascore will be, not to rate it yourself.  If 73 is your guess, then so be it...but given the metascores of other recent AAA MMORPGs...73 is a poor guess indeed.


lol, well you're right about that Creslin321, I apologize, hrm, then it's an easy mid 80s... 85ish, but  not in the 90s.

  Creslin321

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8/03/12 6:06:02 PM#99
Originally posted by Morv
Originally posted by Meowhead
Originally posted by Morv
73ish, it's an interesting direction to take an online game but far from an MMORPG like most of the games released today.

 You are aware that metacritic scores by professional reviewers are determined basically by game reviewers, not a huge group of 'sandbox MMORPG' reviewers who base their scores off of how much it reaches some mythical 'mmorpg standard', right?

They'll rate it determined off of how good of a game it is.

I wanted to add that I have nothing against the game, I look forward to it actually and have already purchased it. Maybe I will do a write up on why I would judge it that way complete with a detailed analysis and comparison of historical online games, MMORPGs, and single player RPGs and why I think the standards of an online game / MMORPG have slipped incredibly far down the quality scale to mediocrity at its best.

You got it in a previous post :)...I would like to hear your viewpoints at some point.

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  Morv

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8/03/12 6:12:08 PM#100
Originally posted by just1opinion
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by just1opinion

 

I think people voted AWFULLY high considering it's MetaCritic.  They're just not very generous.  I love GW2, but I bet it doesn't score over 85 and that's being optimistic.


If TOR gets an 85 with 73 Critic reviews...

 

 

You have a point, but Star Wars name probably garnered more attention than this will.  I guess we'll see.  I wish they'd hurry up about it, the curiosity is driving me bananas.


Either that or the reviewers were biased towards Star Wars in general.

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