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  otinanai123

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8/03/12 1:59:15 PM#61
Originally posted by BadSpock

Wait, do people think that Metacritic invents their Critics score out of the blue?

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-secret-world/critic-reviews

39 different critics reviews.

Do MMO companies pay them all? Does Metacritic give preferential "weight" to reviews from the "big dogs" like IGN/PC World etc.?

No and NO.

Critics reviews individually may be questionable, but the average Metacritic displays as "Critics Review" is far, far more reliable than a single review site or any combination of user reviews.

Kind of contridictory to my previous statements, but I didn't see that TSW review was from 39 different Critics.

So what happened with TOR review? 73 critics, 68 of them positive!

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/star-wars-the-old-republic/critic-reviews?num_items=100

Big problem with MMO reviews - they are ALWAYS too early.

I did the same thing with TOR - loved it at first, for the first 4-6 weeks I was hooked. But not worth subscribing too long term. Is ANY review site going to wait 2-3 months to publish their review? NOPE.

Diablo 3: critic score 88, user score 3.8. Which one is closer to the truth?

  Aerowyn

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8/03/12 2:04:14 PM#62
Originally posted by otinanai123
 

Diablo 3: critic score 88, user score 3.8. Which one is closer to the truth?

I find diablo 3 an average game overall but most those low scores came right from launch when the servers blew up and people couldn't log in so they filled the rating with 0 scores

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  Axxar

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8/03/12 2:08:02 PM#63
83-86 is my guess.

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  Creslin321

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OP  8/03/12 2:08:24 PM#64
Originally posted by otinanai123
Originally posted by BadSpock

Wait, do people think that Metacritic invents their Critics score out of the blue?

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-secret-world/critic-reviews

39 different critics reviews.

Do MMO companies pay them all? Does Metacritic give preferential "weight" to reviews from the "big dogs" like IGN/PC World etc.?

No and NO.

Critics reviews individually may be questionable, but the average Metacritic displays as "Critics Review" is far, far more reliable than a single review site or any combination of user reviews.

Kind of contridictory to my previous statements, but I didn't see that TSW review was from 39 different Critics.

So what happened with TOR review? 73 critics, 68 of them positive!

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/star-wars-the-old-republic/critic-reviews?num_items=100

Big problem with MMO reviews - they are ALWAYS too early.

I did the same thing with TOR - loved it at first, for the first 4-6 weeks I was hooked. But not worth subscribing too long term. Is ANY review site going to wait 2-3 months to publish their review? NOPE.

Diablo 3: critic score 88, user score 3.8. Which one is closer to the truth?

 I don't think D3 deserved an 88, I would say like 82...so I think the critic score is WAY closer to the truth.

I have to ask, have you ever played a truly bad game?  Like ET?  Or Big Rigs:  over the road racing?  Or Daikatana?

THOSE games are actually bad and deserve very low scores...D3 may not have been as good as D2, and may even be inferior to TL in some ways, but in NO WAY does it deserve a 3.8.

I really feel like if you think that D3 deserves a 3.8, then you have no sense of perspective in what makes a good and a bad game.

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  evolver1972

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8/03/12 2:15:13 PM#65

I think, all things being equal, that the critic score will be somewhere around 95, provided they "get it".  User score - again if done fairly - slightly higher. 

Now, considering how things actually run on those sites, the actual numbers will be a little lower, maybe around 90 for critics and slightly higher for users - if the haters don't purposely try to downgrade the score.  Considering some of the hatred I've seen on this site, I wouldn't be very surprised. lol

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  pmcubed

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8/03/12 2:19:06 PM#66

OP - take a lesson in social-statistics.

your scales ranges are inconsistant and the fact there is no ranges for anything below 70 notes your obvious bias.

if you want a fair and unbiased metacritic score, you have construct yout pole better.

  MadDemon64

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8/03/12 2:21:08 PM#67
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by MadDemon64
Originally posted by Creslin321

 

Talking about critic score here, not USER score.

So wait, the score for GW2 is an SCP?

 Heheh I had been listening to Merry Christmas from Chiron Beta Prime when I wrote that.

Glad you got it.

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  Creslin321

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OP  8/03/12 2:29:43 PM#68
Originally posted by pmcubed

OP - take a lesson in social-statistics.

your scales ranges are inconsistant and the fact there is no ranges for anything below 70 notes your obvious bias.

if you want a fair and unbiased metacritic score, you have construct yout pole better.

Anyone who think that GW2 will get <70% on metacritic is being completely unrealistic.  Sorry, but the poll is fine ;).

Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?

  pmcubed

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8/03/12 2:37:04 PM#69
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by pmcubed

OP - take a lesson in social-statistics.

your scales ranges are inconsistant and the fact there is no ranges for anything below 70 notes your obvious bias.

if you want a fair and unbiased metacritic score, you have construct yout pole better.

Anyone who think that GW2 will get <70% on metacritic is being completely unrealistic.  Sorry, but the poll is fine ;).

At least make the ranges consistant.  This is the reason why China is winning.

  otinanai123

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8/03/12 2:38:59 PM#70
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by otinanai123
Originally posted by BadSpock

Wait, do people think that Metacritic invents their Critics score out of the blue?

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-secret-world/critic-reviews

39 different critics reviews.

Do MMO companies pay them all? Does Metacritic give preferential "weight" to reviews from the "big dogs" like IGN/PC World etc.?

No and NO.

Critics reviews individually may be questionable, but the average Metacritic displays as "Critics Review" is far, far more reliable than a single review site or any combination of user reviews.

Kind of contridictory to my previous statements, but I didn't see that TSW review was from 39 different Critics.

So what happened with TOR review? 73 critics, 68 of them positive!

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/star-wars-the-old-republic/critic-reviews?num_items=100

Big problem with MMO reviews - they are ALWAYS too early.

I did the same thing with TOR - loved it at first, for the first 4-6 weeks I was hooked. But not worth subscribing too long term. Is ANY review site going to wait 2-3 months to publish their review? NOPE.

Diablo 3: critic score 88, user score 3.8. Which one is closer to the truth?

 I don't think D3 deserved an 88, I would say like 82...so I think the critic score is WAY closer to the truth.

I have to ask, have you ever played a truly bad game?  Like ET?  Or Big Rigs:  over the road racing?  Or Daikatana?

THOSE games are actually bad and deserve very low scores...D3 may not have been as good as D2, and may even be inferior to TL in some ways, but in NO WAY does it deserve a 3.8.

I really feel like if you think that D3 deserves a 3.8, then you have no sense of perspective in what makes a good and a bad game.

Different people have different rating systems I guess. For me a great game is above 8, an average game is between 4-6 and a truly horrible game is at 0-1. D3 is an average game so I'd give it a ~5. (and in no way is torlchlight better than either d2 or d3, I would give it a 2 or2.5 max) 

An 82 for D3 seems crazy and unrealistic and (as the user reviews show) most people would agree with me and not you.

  Creslin321

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OP  8/03/12 2:39:20 PM#71
Originally posted by pmcubed
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by pmcubed

OP - take a lesson in social-statistics.

your scales ranges are inconsistant and the fact there is no ranges for anything below 70 notes your obvious bias.

if you want a fair and unbiased metacritic score, you have construct yout pole better.

Anyone who think that GW2 will get <70% on metacritic is being completely unrealistic.  Sorry, but the poll is fine ;).

At least make the ranges consistant.  This is the reason why China is winning.

 The poll is constructed in similar fashion to how the +/- grading scale works:

http://people.sunyit.edu/~boylank/scale.html

Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?

  pmcubed

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Posts: 291

8/03/12 2:42:04 PM#72
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by pmcubed
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by pmcubed

OP - take a lesson in social-statistics.

your scales ranges are inconsistant and the fact there is no ranges for anything below 70 notes your obvious bias.

if you want a fair and unbiased metacritic score, you have construct yout pole better.

Anyone who think that GW2 will get <70% on metacritic is being completely unrealistic.  Sorry, but the poll is fine ;).

At least make the ranges consistant.  This is the reason why China is winning.

 The poll is constructed in similar fashion to how the +/- grading scale works:

http://people.sunyit.edu/~boylank/scale.html

lol. similar.... try mirroring that.  you obvious made arbitrary scales for some reason that I can only attribute to laziness or you are trying to coerce people into choosing a score that you had a personal connecton to.  It is unethical.

  Creslin321

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OP  8/03/12 2:44:03 PM#73
Originally posted by otinanai123
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by otinanai123
Originally posted by BadSpock

Wait, do people think that Metacritic invents their Critics score out of the blue?

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-secret-world/critic-reviews

39 different critics reviews.

Do MMO companies pay them all? Does Metacritic give preferential "weight" to reviews from the "big dogs" like IGN/PC World etc.?

No and NO.

Critics reviews individually may be questionable, but the average Metacritic displays as "Critics Review" is far, far more reliable than a single review site or any combination of user reviews.

Kind of contridictory to my previous statements, but I didn't see that TSW review was from 39 different Critics.

So what happened with TOR review? 73 critics, 68 of them positive!

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/star-wars-the-old-republic/critic-reviews?num_items=100

Big problem with MMO reviews - they are ALWAYS too early.

I did the same thing with TOR - loved it at first, for the first 4-6 weeks I was hooked. But not worth subscribing too long term. Is ANY review site going to wait 2-3 months to publish their review? NOPE.

Diablo 3: critic score 88, user score 3.8. Which one is closer to the truth?

 I don't think D3 deserved an 88, I would say like 82...so I think the critic score is WAY closer to the truth.

I have to ask, have you ever played a truly bad game?  Like ET?  Or Big Rigs:  over the road racing?  Or Daikatana?

THOSE games are actually bad and deserve very low scores...D3 may not have been as good as D2, and may even be inferior to TL in some ways, but in NO WAY does it deserve a 3.8.

I really feel like if you think that D3 deserves a 3.8, then you have no sense of perspective in what makes a good and a bad game.

Different people have different rating systems I guess. For me a great game is above 8, an average game is between 4-6 and a truly horrible game is at 0-1. D3 is an average game so I'd give it a ~5. (and in no way is torlchlight better than either d2 or d3, I would give it a 2 or2.5 max) 

An 82 for D3 seems crazy and unrealistic and (as the user reviews show) most people would agree with me and not you.

 Yeah but here's the thing...we are talking about metacritic here, which is just a aggregate of review scores.  And MOST reviewers use a scale similar to the US grading system, which basically means that metacritic uses the US grading system as well.  A 80-89 score for a game is very comparable to getting a "B" on your paper in school.

We are not talking about someone's arbitrarily defined scale.  And honestly, arguing that you like using the whole scale or whatever is kind of dumb anyway, because there are an infinite amount of number between any two integers anyway.  So it's not like you're losing any expressiveness by basically dismissing all numbers below 7 as "failure."

My viewpoint is that we may as well just use the scale that the majority of other people use.  All trying to use your own scale does is muck things up...there is nothing inherently "better" with any scale over another.

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  Creslin321

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OP  8/03/12 2:45:55 PM#74
Originally posted by pmcubed
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by pmcubed
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by pmcubed

OP - take a lesson in social-statistics.

your scales ranges are inconsistant and the fact there is no ranges for anything below 70 notes your obvious bias.

if you want a fair and unbiased metacritic score, you have construct yout pole better.

Anyone who think that GW2 will get <70% on metacritic is being completely unrealistic.  Sorry, but the poll is fine ;).

At least make the ranges consistant.  This is the reason why China is winning.

 The poll is constructed in similar fashion to how the +/- grading scale works:

http://people.sunyit.edu/~boylank/scale.html

lol. similar.... try mirroring that.  you obvious made arbitrary scales for some reason that I can only attribute to laziness or you are trying to coerce people into choosing a score that you had a personal connecton to.  It is unethical.

 Yes I am uethical, go ahead and report me to the BBB lol. It's just a freaking poll.  It's off by ONE number from that scale.  ONE NUMBER.  And this is out of a 100 point scale.

Also, what agenda do I have here?  How am I trying to coerce people to choose something?

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  BadSpock

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Logic be damned!

8/03/12 2:47:25 PM#75

Creslin is right -

YOU personally may not like GW2, but anyone thinking its over-all Metacritic score (based on average of Critics reviews) is going to be anything less than 70% is "dey turk our jerbz!" stupid.

 

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  Creslin321

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OP  8/03/12 2:48:10 PM#76
Originally posted by BadSpock

Creslin is right -

YOU personally may not like GW2, but anyone thinking its over-all Metacritic score (based on average of Critics reviews) is going to be anything less than 70% is "dey turk our jerbz!" stupid.

 

 Thank you lol :).  I seriously thought people had lost their minds.

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  BadSpock

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Logic be damned!

8/03/12 2:49:48 PM#77
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by BadSpock

Creslin is right -

YOU personally may not like GW2, but anyone thinking its over-all Metacritic score (based on average of Critics reviews) is going to be anything less than 70% is "dey turk our jerbz!" stupid.

 

 Thank you lol :).  I seriously thought people had lost their minds.


CRESLIN IS ASKING WHAT METACRITIC OVER-ALL SCORE FOR CRITICS IS GOING TO BE - NOT WHAT YOU THINK THE SCORE SHOULD BE

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  Nethermancer

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8/03/12 2:50:50 PM#78

i am going to say 90

seems like a fair bet.

edit - anyone who chose under 70 is trolling.

i would be EXTREMELY suprised if GW2 had a meta score under 80 tbh

this is NOT my opinion on the game this is what i think the critics numerical representation of there opinion will be.

From beta i would give the game 85 but i know its not fair to rate a beta but screw it!

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  Denambren

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8/03/12 2:51:08 PM#79

I'm gonna run with 77-79 as my guess.

 

I expect the amateur writing and abysmal voice acting will turn off a lot of reviewers (and it should), but there will be a lot of good fun and pvp action to be had for people who can look past the terribad story.

I think a lot of reviewers will see the potential behind the game for those who make their own way, giving the game a "decent" score, but they'll also recognize that the embarassing attempt at a personal story will scare off a good chunk of players.

 

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8/03/12 2:52:02 PM#80
I'm guessing around a 90.
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