Voted TSW, but it really is a toss-up between TSW & TERA. Being that TERA has been out longer i'd imagine TERA might hit first, but you never know with Funcom. They tend to jump the gun quite a bit.

Originally posted by Prenho

Originally posted by XPraetorianX

Originally posted by Shaike

Just curious... i vote Tera , then TSW and WOW last....

 

 

Tera for sure it felt like it should be free after the first month. Even if it was free I would not play it. So boring, but the graphics where cool.

Tera devs bet on west marked but they've lost, because wow players always come back to wow, they eventually go to play another MMO(that is basically a WoW with another name and different graphics), but after 1 month they return to WoW. WoW players wont stop playing instances in wow to play intances other game.

 

Tera also failed in east because most eastern people prefer actual MMORPGS instead of themeparks, Lineage 2 has more servers in east, for example(there are 30+ L2 servers against 15 TERA servers in korea-it seems new merges will come soon). After Glory Days, the new patch that brought the world pvp back to L2, Tera lost many players, after B&S releases, Tera lost even more. In the end, I think that they will have to turn Tera into an actual MMO if they want, at least, to keep the game live in eastern contries.

I dont like wow if you where refering to me lol. I been enjoying the hell out of TSW and GW2 Beta. I agree 100% with your post otherwise. The reason I dislike wow is to long to explain as I am at work at the moment.

Originally posted by eyelolled

You can argue it all you want, it doesn't change the fact that on both games for a set price, individually determined by each company, you can play the game for it's lifetime without paying a monthly subscription.

 It's just like two people going to the same place, one takes a taxi and the other drives their own car. When they get there, they've both arrived in a vehicle.  You can argue differences, but it doesn't change facts.

Your still completely wrong and your making it way to complicated. You say your all about facts yet ignore the fact that whether its a monthly or lifetime subscription it's still a subscription. I'll lay it out for you in a simple way:

-Both games cost the box price.

-One game (TSW) also cost a subscription price to play, you can pay this subscription monthly or in one large lump sum but you HAVE to buy some sort of subscription to play it.

That's what makes TSW not B2P...you MUST PAY FOR A SUBSCRIPTION.

Originally posted by drakes821

Originally posted by eyelolled

You can argue it all you want, it doesn't change the fact that on both games for a set price, individually determined by each company, you can play the game for it's lifetime without paying a monthly subscription.

 It's just like two people going to the same place, one takes a taxi and the other drives their own car. When they get there, they've both arrived in a vehicle.  You can argue differences, but it doesn't change facts.

Your still completely wrong and your making it way to complicated. You say your all about facts yet ignore the fact that whether its a monthly or lifetime subscription it's still a subscription. I'll lay it out for you in a simple way:

-Both games cost the box price.

-One game (TSW) also cost a subscription price to play, you can pay this subscription monthly or in one large lump sum but you HAVE to buy some sort of subscription to play it.

That's what makes TSW not B2P...you MUST PAY FOR A SUBSCRIPTION.

 

 

THANK YOU! sigh

Cognitive Dissonance at it's best on his part, just leave out the subscription part over and over no one will notice.

Originally posted by eyelolled

Originally posted by itgrowls

Originally posted by travamars

Originally posted by itgrowls

Originally posted by travamars

Originally posted by eyelolled

Originally posted by Kuppa

Originally posted by eyelolled

[snip]

Not mixing words, including data that you both leave out. 

$200 one time subscription fee + $60 one time purchase of the game title TSW for those not purchasing lifetime, they MUST pay a $15 a month fee to play

$60 one time purchase of the game title 

When you include ALL of the data it becomes more clear. 

Required Subscription or Required Lifetime fee + Game Purchase =/= Game Purchase 

No matter how many times one pays it's still not equal thus it's still not the same thing. smh double face palm.

You can argue it all you want, it doesn't change the fact that on both games for a set price, individually determined by each company, you can play the game for it's lifetime without paying a monthly subscription.

 

It's just like two people going to the same place, one takes a taxi and the other drives their own car. When they get there, they've both arrived in a vehicle.  You can argue differences, but it doesn't change facts.

Yep, and i will because I am not the only one who notices you leaving out data. (SUBSCRIPTION FEE)

SO, here to give you a better idea of what we are all talking about:

One guy takes a taxi but also has to buy the taxi but even tho he owns his own taxi he has to pay fees to drive it on top of what he paid to own it, the other guy buys his own car and doesn't have to pay any fees to drive it.

Hopefully that cleared it up for you.

Tera.

Tera, and it's happening sooner than you might thing.

Originally posted by itgrowls

Originally posted by eyelolled

Originally posted by itgrowls

Originally posted by travamars

Originally posted by itgrowls

Originally posted by travamars

Originally posted by eyelolled

Originally posted by Kuppa

Originally posted by eyelolled

[snip]

Not mixing words, including data that you both leave out. 

$200 one time subscription fee + $60 one time purchase of the game title TSW for those not purchasing lifetime, they MUST pay a $15 a month fee to play

$60 one time purchase of the game title 

When you include ALL of the data it becomes more clear. 

Required Subscription or Required Lifetime fee + Game Purchase =/= Game Purchase 

No matter how many times one pays it's still not equal thus it's still not the same thing. smh double face palm.

You can argue it all you want, it doesn't change the fact that on both games for a set price, individually determined by each company, you can play the game for it's lifetime without paying a monthly subscription.

 

It's just like two people going to the same place, one takes a taxi and the other drives their own car. When they get there, they've both arrived in a vehicle.  You can argue differences, but it doesn't change facts.

Yep, and i will because I am not the only one who notices you leaving out data. (SUBSCRIPTION FEE)

SO, here to give you a better idea of what we are all talking about:

One guy takes a taxi but also has to buy the taxi but even tho he owns his own taxi he has to pay fees to drive it on top of what he paid to own it, the other guy buys his own car and doesn't have to pay any fees to drive it.

Hopefully that cleared it up for you.

OMG! You're right!  Paying once for something is completely different than paying once for something. It's all so clear now. All I had to do was remove common sense from the equation and add a little denial. You're so right! Can I put you up for the nobel peace prize on your marvellous work?

I'm so glad that we have you here to save the world from people like myself who think that not paying monthly subscription fees is the same as not paying monthly subscription fees. 

HEAR YE! HEAR YE! itgrowls has proved without a shadow of a doubt that not paying anything each month is completely different than not paying anything each month. 

First thing we need to do is set up a time for you to address the scientific community. This may play a distinct role is proving that particles can be in two places at once, and maybe expand on it showing that 1 single particle can be a completely different particle at the same time.  After you've had a chance to address the scientific community you will need to hold a council with the greatest mathematicians of our day so that you can form a mathematics think tank and maybe create a new way of balancing the nations debt. We will pay them one years worth of payments all at once, and we'll never have to pay them again because it's the same!!!  This is big! You'd better patent the term "itgrowls theory on differential equalateral bipolar economics" but you'll need to write your thesis right away.

Good thing you were here, I can't emphasize that enough, good thing you were here. 

EDIT: Was going to remove the post and just block to avoid a ban, but I'll take the ban if the mods choose to give it and block as well. 

Originally posted by drakes821

Originally posted by eyelolled

You can argue it all you want, it doesn't change the fact that on both games for a set price, individually determined by each company, you can play the game for it's lifetime without paying a monthly subscription.

 It's just like two people going to the same place, one takes a taxi and the other drives their own car. When they get there, they've both arrived in a vehicle.  You can argue differences, but it doesn't change facts.

Your still completely wrong and your making it way to complicated. You say your all about facts yet ignore the fact that whether its a monthly or lifetime subscription it's still a subscription. I'll lay it out for you in a simple way:

-Both games cost the box price.

-One game (TSW) also cost a subscription price to play, you can pay this subscription monthly or in one large lump sum but you HAVE to buy some sort of subscription to play it.

That's what makes TSW not B2P...you MUST PAY FOR A SUBSCRIPTION.

 

 

I did type a response trying to explain it to you but i just deleted it and settled for this.  

WOW..just WOW....

Originally posted by VengeSunsoar
Or vespa theory or resonance. There are several theories and principles of objects or clouds occupying two different spaces at the same time allready

yes absolutely. There is also the wave - particle duality theory that denotes every particle exhibits characteristics of both waves and particles lending to the point one thing being something else at the exact same time.