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8/02/12 10:06:26 PM#161

Did you guys in mmorpg even bother playing the games a reasonable ammount of time to check out all the game content or at least two thirds of it???

Why in the hell every friggin picture is about Kingsmouth or NY??? Did you guys made it to Blue Mountain at least... Egypt??? Other instance other than Polaris????


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8/02/12 10:12:15 PM#162
Fiinally some decent review score where credit due. Swtor was awful.  

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8/02/12 10:19:02 PM#163
I had to quit. It was too tough for me. I could have continued grinding, but I got tired of it. Other than that, I thought it was a very good game.

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8/02/12 10:29:21 PM#164

Originally posted by Brynn

I had to quit. It was too tough for me. I could have continued grinding, but I got tired of it. Other than that, I thought it was a very good game.


 Get some friends ...Not to belittle you or anything , but this game is NOT hard gameplaywise unless you want to "solo" all the way


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8/03/12 12:46:29 AM#165

Reviewing an MMO this early into its life is as about as relevant as, well, nothing.  In the first month I absolutely loved Warhammer, but we all know how that one panned out.

If people are enjoying it, fantastic.  The review seems a tad high, though, but given the SW:TOR review I'm not really surprised.


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8/03/12 2:11:43 AM#166
The character creater is exactly the same as it was at the end of beta , and its really bad in so many ways , i dont know where the op gets his information from but there has been none , zero , zilch improvements . There are improvements coming at the end of august we were told .

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8/03/12 2:50:27 AM#167
Originally posted by JimmyYO
Unfortunatly this is a fanboi review. 

Well.. I have a playtime of 160+ hours and the review is correct in every aspect. Are you very unhappy about the fact it's a great game?


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8/03/12 2:58:50 AM#168

Originally posted by Aconsar

Reviewing an MMO this early into its life is as about as relevant as, well, nothing.  In the first month I absolutely loved Warhammer, but we all know how that one panned out.

If people are enjoying it, fantastic.  The review seems a tad high, though, but given the SW:TOR review I'm not really surprised.


My thoughts exactly - SW:TOR also got a very good review from MMORPG, not to mention that they were defending the game until the point when people started to get fired from Bioware. In fact, Bill Murphy admitted he no longer subscribers to SW:TOR, which doesn't make sense, if the original review was accurate.

I hope it doesn't come to the same point as it did with SW:TOR, but reviews on MMORPG are starting to lose credibility for me. The site is still good for MMO-related news, but critical pieces have become increasingly toothless over the past year or so.


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8/03/12 3:12:34 AM#169
Originally posted by zhivik
My thoughts exactly - SW:TOR also got a very good review from MMORPG

every site gave SWTOR a great score. at this time no one knew they would not add real useful updates for 8 months.

Just more of the same, and not enough of it. No announcement of space combat.

e.g. TSW already gets monthly updates with interesting stuff, 1.1. is out, 1.2 end off August.

Good updates are the key to success of any MMO and so far TSW rules


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8/03/12 3:17:47 AM#170
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by k-damage

Originally posted by tkoreaper

 Deep skill system - Just a facade, not actually "deep"

Explain please... It's pretty deep to me, there are hundreds of abilities and combinations to choose from. It was to the point of being overwhelming for me in the beginning... If that's not deep then I would love to know what is.


Deep means intrications, mechanics between different skills & tiers. Not just a mixbag of separate spells.

gonna copy past my post from official forums, when asked the same question.


Fire manifestation

200 base dmg 

every 2 seconds

5 meter area

 2 resources


Lightning manifestation

200 base dmg

every 1 second

5 meter area

2 resources


Take lightning. No brainer right? Wrong here is where the brain comes in.



10 second cool down

Chain attack



5 second cool down 

normal attack 



So take fire right? Well maybe. What if I added 7.5 dmg to chain attacks and a heal debuff? Easy take lightning then right? Well  do I really want to use 2 passives cards to have an extra uber lightning manifestation? It depends.


It depends on the map and it depends on the situation and your build concept. This is just 2 cards I'm talking about. There are 523 more that play just like these.


No other mmorpg gives you this level of depth, customozation, and freedom across the board except maybe EvE, and lets be honest we like RPing people more than ships.

Nice :) 

(I was indeed just giving the definition of "deep", not judging TSW deepness, as I didn't play it)

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8/03/12 3:48:28 AM#171

MMO's are now in a position where a subscription model for an AAA game that scores 8.5 is questioned at launch. All those who think this bodes well for the MMO genre keep your heads firmly in the sand.


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8/03/12 3:56:22 AM#172
Originally posted by Suzie_Ford

Honestly, I see little reason to ever use it from the standpoint that the clothiers in each major city have vastly more options for players to choose from.

Where might I be able to purchase clothes while visiting New York and Seoul?

wtb /played or chronicle link 

Nusquam - Lead Content Designer

<p postcontent"="">We knew TSW was not going to be for everyone, and I wouldn't worry too much about bad early reviews from smaller sites. The bigger ones are yet to come and even then, the game will probably be divisive.

The important thing is that YOU guys like it - we'll continue to work on improving it regardless of what the critics say.

On a personal note, I think that early reviews on an MMORPG should always be encouraged to include a /played. That way it is easier for customers to see just how in depth the early reviews went in a game.

Though I guess, if you figure out character names, you can always check it out for yourself on chronicle 

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8/03/12 6:09:40 AM#173

It's a high score for the Game, Bill. Not insanely high, as was your sites Aion score, but about 1 out of  10 higher than where the rest of the planets critics place the game. TSW is nothing new.


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8/03/12 6:13:04 AM#174
I actually really like the premise of TSW and hope it does well, if only to inspire more MMOs in the urban horror and consipiracy genre. However...that 9.5 on aesthetics, particularly without any screencaps to show it merits that near-perfect score calls the rest of the scoring into question. I have actually seen some really nice screens of TSW, but the majority that are floating around, including the ones with this article, are sadly bland and honestly look dated. 

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8/03/12 6:33:40 AM#175
I played the game closed beta, and I think while the game is alright it wasn't enough to tempt me to box purchase and sub. 

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8/03/12 6:47:37 AM#176

Aesthetics 9.5 . If the combat animations are still that bad, then this score is a joke. The combat animations should also be listed in Cons then.

While I believe that the reviewer tried to be sincere with the review, just shrugging off bad points of a game in this way makes you lose credibility with your readers. I also don't like defending a reviewer with 'its just an opinion'. I'm pretty sure that the idea is that your goal is to be as objective as possible as reviewer. So you should be able to defend your scores with arguments. Not just 'I just happen to like it'.

Apart from that I agree that this is a decent MMO. I'm also happy they finally got a MMO launch right.

But those crazy high scores for the late MMO's are odd though. It doesn't really leave much room to improve upon. Maybe it is time to simply get rid of the rating by the writers here and just use an expanded pro/con system. Let the visitors of this site create an average rating instead.

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8/03/12 6:51:12 AM#177
I would have bought this if it wasn't for the subscription fee.  I just won't do subs anymore.

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8/03/12 7:34:21 AM#178
Agreed. PC gamer gave 69; they gave SWTOR a 93. Riiiiiiiiiiight. I believe what PC Gamer says <sarcasm>. I'm thinking that with PC Gamer,  the bigger boys get a positive review because of ad money, exclusive interviews, etc. Truth has nothing to do with PC Gamer any more. So sad. I used to really like them, but their reviews have been more and more skewed and I find myself at exact opposites with them.

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8/03/12 7:39:22 AM#179
Originally posted by BillMurphy
@Toddze: This reviewer, Suzie Ford is a she, and is not Mike Bitton (who reviewed SWTOR). Additionally, the reviews levies the good and the bad. Don't mistake disagreement with a score as "right" or "wrong". It's merely opinion and you're welcome to yours.

It is a bad review when it is just an opinion. Downsizing the bad points because of what the reviewer is expecting Funcom is going to do to improve, and for that reason giving it a higher rating, should be frowned upon.

It takes one to know one.


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8/03/12 7:49:43 AM#180

The game wasn't bad at all. I didn't sub past the first month for several reasons.

1. The game was one of the buggiest I've played at release, although I've only played maybe around 5 releases.

2. Subscription-based models are hard to justify with some pretty good AAA games offering hybrid subscription models, and of course GW2 having no subscription at all.

3. Subscription + Cash Shop seems just kind of wrong. I remember in the days of SWG that any developed clothing item looks were put in the game as a part of your subscription. The community would of went up in an uproar in those days if you had to pay for "cosmetic items," while also paying a sub fee. Anything developed, aside from expansions, while paying a subscription fee should be included in the game as patches, not sold on the store. Seems like double dipping to me.

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