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  adam_nox

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OP  8/02/12 5:40:07 PM#1

I had read that performance was bad back when the BWE's first started, but people stopped complaining, and here we are 3 weeks out.  So I assumed those issues had been resolved.  Not in the least.

 

To computer hobbyists, my rig will seem antiquated, but it's run SWTOR, Rift, LotRO, TERA, D3, SC2, and more on high settings.  Does GW2 look better than all of those games?  Somewhat a matter of opinion, and despite a preferred style, not better than TERA. 

I'm running a gtx260, core2duo 3ghz.  3gb ram (pointless to have more on this XP system). 

 

I don't mind running this game on low, if it looked acceptable, which it doesn't (image to follow).  But the problem is, even with everything to low the fps is under 20. 

Are we still waiting on a miracle patch (I'm speaking to those without beefy computers), or what?

Here is what the game looks like on my system:  http://imgur.com/G5S17

 

Honestly, I already know what the responses will be, save telling me to get better hardware, there's no excuse for this poor of performance. 

However, if this is highly unusual, let me know, or if there's known fixes.

  kadepsyson

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The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

8/02/12 5:43:51 PM#2

Yes, we're waiting for a performance patch.  Even with my high end system, the game chugged often, and CrossfireX was a detriment rather than adding performance.

It's not just people with "antiquated" rigs.

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  adam_nox

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OP  8/02/12 5:49:16 PM#3

Oh wow so people think this will get better within 3 weeks?  There's no way.    I'm screwed.

  Aerowyn

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8/02/12 5:50:24 PM#4

running 60-100fps depending on area on my system

 

currently 72 fps in area im in with tons of shit going on

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  kadepsyson

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The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

8/02/12 5:50:36 PM#5
Originally posted by adam_nox

Oh wow so people think this will get better within 3 weeks?  There's no way.    I'm screwed.

It's probably not bad coding at fault, moreso that they haven't made it gpu graphics bound instead of cpu.  At least that's my hope.  I also hope they fix Eyefinity being -Vert.

El Psy Congroo

  Creslin321

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8/02/12 5:53:08 PM#6

That sucks, I hope they get all these compatability issues fixed for you guys.

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  eyelolled

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8/02/12 5:53:39 PM#7
Originally posted by adam_nox

I had read that performance was bad back when the BWE's first started, but people stopped complaining, and here we are 3 weeks out.  So I assumed those issues had been resolved.  Not in the least.

 

To computer hobbyists, my rig will seem antiquated, but it's run SWTOR, Rift, LotRO, TERA, D3, SC2, and more on high settings.  Does GW2 look better than all of those games?  Somewhat a matter of opinion, and despite a preferred style, not better than TERA. 

I'm running a gtx260, core2duo 3ghz.  3gb ram (pointless to have more on this XP system). 

 

I don't mind running this game on low, if it looked acceptable, which it doesn't (image to follow).  But the problem is, even with everything to low the fps is under 20. 

Are we still waiting on a miracle patch (I'm speaking to those without beefy computers), or what?

Here is what the game looks like on my system:  http://imgur.com/G5S17

 

Honestly, I already know what the responses will be, save telling me to get better hardware, there's no excuse for this poor of performance. 

However, if this is highly unusual, let me know, or if there's known fixes.

Thanks for letting us know, I hoped you filled out a bug report too.

All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

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  Brizlyn

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8/02/12 5:54:27 PM#8
Wife has been playing WvW during this stress test and I told her to expect lag etc. while they optimize, however she was happy to report to me zero performance issues at all today, although they did just push out an update a bit ago, she had smooth performance the whole time. She is running a GTX560. -briz
  adam_nox

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OP  8/02/12 5:55:59 PM#9
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by adam_nox

I had read that performance was bad back when the BWE's first started, but people stopped complaining, and here we are 3 weeks out.  So I assumed those issues had been resolved.  Not in the least.

 

To computer hobbyists, my rig will seem antiquated, but it's run SWTOR, Rift, LotRO, TERA, D3, SC2, and more on high settings.  Does GW2 look better than all of those games?  Somewhat a matter of opinion, and despite a preferred style, not better than TERA. 

I'm running a gtx260, core2duo 3ghz.  3gb ram (pointless to have more on this XP system). 

 

I don't mind running this game on low, if it looked acceptable, which it doesn't (image to follow).  But the problem is, even with everything to low the fps is under 20. 

Are we still waiting on a miracle patch (I'm speaking to those without beefy computers), or what?

Here is what the game looks like on my system:  http://imgur.com/G5S17

 

Honestly, I already know what the responses will be, save telling me to get better hardware, there's no excuse for this poor of performance. 

However, if this is highly unusual, let me know, or if there's known fixes.

Thanks for letting us know, I hoped you filled out a bug report too.

I don't even know how.  Nor do I think this counts as a bug, but I'd be more than willing to give them my feedback.

  freston

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8/02/12 5:56:03 PM#10

I havent had that kind of problem myself. My rig is somewht better than yours, but not by much. I think the graphic card is better though (not saying the exact model as i think i ll get it wrong)

  adam_nox

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OP  8/02/12 5:56:52 PM#11
Originally posted by Brizlyn
Wife has been playing WvW during this stress test and I told her to expect lag etc. while they optimize, however she was happy to report to me zero performance issues at all today, although they did just push out an update a bit ago, she had smooth performance the whole time. She is running a GTX560. -briz

Do you know what OS, ram, and processor she has?

  adam_nox

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OP  8/02/12 5:57:50 PM#12
Originally posted by Aerowyn

running 60-100fps depending on area on my system

 

currently 72 fps in area im in with tons of shit going on

I actually appreciate posts like this, but if you could tell me your system specs at the same time it would be helpful.

  Kothoses

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8/02/12 6:00:46 PM#13

For the quality of graphics and animations it provides the pressure it puts on system resources is very high.

 

However the game is one of those that looks amazing in stills and a lot of processing power and GPU power goes into creating that.

 

Additionally ALL mmos suffer performance degradation with large numbers of people in the same area (Which is what makes me dubious about WvWvW providing what the more hyped fans think it will).

 

There is also the extra profiling processes that run in the background of all MMO's during weekend marketing events (As the one thing you CAN realiably test during these is server balancing, that is server in the technical sense not in the sharded world sense).

 

Over all I would say that given experience with about 10 other pre-launch marketing events and 3 or 4 actual beta's you can eexpect a performance boost of abou 10-15% after launch.. but you wont notice it for the first couple of days because of the volume of players sharing each zone with you.

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  Zezda

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8/02/12 6:01:44 PM#14

Which BWE did you participate in?

For the first two the game was very, very reliant on pure CPU power as a lot of the work was not being offloaded onto the GPU as it should have been. A C2D at 3Ghz, as a gaming CPU, is roughly two tiers behind the first gen i7 processors. That particular C2D was first available in January 2008 which puts it at 4 years and 6 months old. By comparison an i7-920, while 400Mhz slower, would be significantly faster due to the increases in IPC (Instructions per Cycle), the i7 series launched at the end of 2008 but has actually aged quite well due to the big architectural changes they made (Just as well given the high price of entry for that particular chipset).

I don't mean to be the guy that says.. 'lol go get new hardware' but when you are running a beta test that is heavily leveraging the CPU more than it should be while using a CPU over 4 years old then you should have expected you might run into some issues. Now.. come release performance should indeed be a bit better for yourself I should hope. How much?? I can't honestly say but suffice to say the minimum specs are a 2.0Ghz C2D so you should be able to play without the CPU being the direct issue.

An easy way t o test this come release would be to test the game at different resolutions. If you find that the FPS in game does not vary significantly between resolutions then you can be assured that you are CPU bound, if performance does change then you are GPU bound. If you want to work out roughly by how much each chance in resolution should have then you can simply work out the pixels in each rendered frame. For example 1920x1080 = 2.07m pixels and my 3x22" setup of 5280x1050 = 5.54m - so in a general sense I would have roughly 37% of my original performance by switching from 1920x1080 to 5280x1050 assuming my GPU was always the bottleneck.

On a side note, at that resolution of 5280x1050 I managed to play the game just fine with my i7-950 and HD7970, the i7 was at stock for most of the weekend. There was some slow downs in some areas but for the most part it was fine. I actually think the GW2 engine handles poor FPS very well. When I overclocked my i7-950 to 4.2/4.3Ghz my FPS was much more stable, as expected.

  Aerowyn

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8/02/12 6:02:57 PM#15
Originally posted by adam_nox
Originally posted by Aerowyn

running 60-100fps depending on area on my system

 

currently 72 fps in area im in with tons of shit going on

I actually appreciate posts like this, but if you could tell me your system specs at the same time it would be helpful.

i have a beastly system though so probably why

2600k cpu @ 4.5ghz

gtx 670 running at 680 speeds

solid state HD with 8 gb ram

 

so you are running at best performance slider right?

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  meari

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8/02/12 6:03:06 PM#16

Sorry to hear, OP. I have to say that it is very unusual. I run 8600GT and everything is smooth on low.

  Talketzanto

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8/02/12 6:07:01 PM#17

intel ivy bridge i5-3570k   3.4 ghz

16 gb ram

1 tb sata3 hdd

HD 7850  2gb

 

Unfortuantly I havn't played any beta's but im hoping someone here with a similar setup can let me know how it runs....thx!

  Brizlyn

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8/02/12 6:09:03 PM#18
Originally posted by adam_nox
Originally posted by Brizlyn
Wife has been playing WvW during this stress test and I told her to expect lag etc. while they optimize, however she was happy to report to me zero performance issues at all today, although they did just push out an update a bit ago, she had smooth performance the whole time. She is running a GTX560. -briz

Do you know what OS, ram, and processor she has?

 

She is running an I7 950 with 6gb gskill f3-12800 on windows 7. -briz
  eyelolled

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8/02/12 6:09:36 PM#19
Originally posted by adam_nox
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by adam_nox

I had read that performance was bad back when the BWE's first started, but people stopped complaining, and here we are 3 weeks out.  So I assumed those issues had been resolved.  Not in the least.

 

To computer hobbyists, my rig will seem antiquated, but it's run SWTOR, Rift, LotRO, TERA, D3, SC2, and more on high settings.  Does GW2 look better than all of those games?  Somewhat a matter of opinion, and despite a preferred style, not better than TERA. 

I'm running a gtx260, core2duo 3ghz.  3gb ram (pointless to have more on this XP system). 

 

I don't mind running this game on low, if it looked acceptable, which it doesn't (image to follow).  But the problem is, even with everything to low the fps is under 20. 

Are we still waiting on a miracle patch (I'm speaking to those without beefy computers), or what?

Here is what the game looks like on my system:  http://imgur.com/G5S17

 

Honestly, I already know what the responses will be, save telling me to get better hardware, there's no excuse for this poor of performance. 

However, if this is highly unusual, let me know, or if there's known fixes.

Thanks for letting us know, I hoped you filled out a bug report too.

I don't even know how.  Nor do I think this counts as a bug, but I'd be more than willing to give them my feedback.

when you are in the game, there is a bug icon up in the top left of the screen (at least there was in BWE3, I'm not in the game today)

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  Blackbrrd

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8/02/12 6:10:42 PM#20
Originally posted by meari

Sorry to hear, OP. I have to say that it is very unusual. I run 8600GT and everything is smooth on low.

Isn't that the generation before the OP's graphics card? What kind of CPU are you running?

Btw, I do find it amusing that people complain about games running bad on 5+ year old systems. Back in the days, anything more than 2-3 years old wouldn't be expected to run anything smoothly - if at all. Anyway, running a 2006 cpu with a 2011 graphics card and 4gb ram and windows 7 64 bit and it runs TSW at ultra+tesselation - although at 20-25fps.

Conclusion for me: buy a new graphics card, even a 100$ one will be a huge improvement.

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