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  Yodi2007

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Joined: 6/30/12
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8/02/12 12:18:56 AM#21
Originally posted by QuicklyScott

Say what!?  

 

First I've heard of this.

There are some ex devs working over there not alot but a few of them. My cousin worked at both EA & Blizzard as an artist/concept artist ( she no longer works with gaming companies), 1 of her friends works over on the GW2 project. 

Below is where we can disscuss and come up with new ideas for Sandparks!

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5164689#5164689

  Valua

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Joined: 8/08/11
Posts: 521

8/02/12 12:25:08 AM#22
Originally posted by jondifool
Originally posted by Indrome

Pics or it didn't happen!

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Jeff_Strain

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Patrick_Wyatt

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Mike_O%27Brien

but this is old news, i mean they did gw1 together so,

 

Only one of them worked on WoW and he's left ArenaNet.

  drbaltazar

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8/02/12 12:32:51 AM#23

very true!vanilla wow is the most loved wow till cataclysm!and whos fault was this?yep the guys that created arenanet!gw1?yep again ,mostly vanilla wow guys!

!remember that arenanet is a fairly new entity and to be so successfull in such short time is any dev dream!cant wait to play gw2!the second title from arenanet!yes some would include aion but this is an ncsoft baby! that was put into arenanet hands!

ps:true they didnt all work on wow!but prior to wow warcraft was there anotherr huge success that put blizzard on the map!starcraft was popular all the way to prior starcraft 2 lunch!

it is sad to see some of that core left!hopefully this wont have screwed the gw magic!

  Loke666

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Joined: 10/29/07
Posts: 16615

8/02/12 12:37:17 AM#24
Originally posted by QuicklyScott

Say what!?  

First I've heard of this.

It is kinda true.

In the late 90s were the team that worked on WC3 also putting in a little time on their own version of EQ set in the same world.

The whole idea was lead designer Jeff Strains and he got permision from Mike Morhaime who also was a EQ fanatic.

But when they actually showed what they had done Blizzard got really interested and made a huge featurelist that they demanded to be included, and it had Strains most hated word on it, monthly fees. So Strain got upset and he and his 2 main programers, Wyatt and O'brien left to make their own MMO. Sadly didn´t they got enough funding so they made a CORPG instead.

Meanwhile did Morhaime got a huge portion of luck, he was chatting with a random guildie who seemed smart and asked if he would be interested in some kind of work, he was named Kaplan and Morhaime was so impressed by him that he let him take over the Warcraft MMO project.

So in a way is the whole thing True, Jeff Strain did get the idea for both Wow and GW2 but he didn´t complete either game since he left ANET 3 years ago for Undead labs. Only Mike O'brien is still working at ANET from the original WC3/Wow team.

  drbaltazar

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8/02/12 12:44:21 AM#25

ya and en masse tera isnt flying very high!the other might do better with their futur zombie game!we ll have to wait and see!

  Gorilla

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Posts: 2218

8/02/12 12:45:09 AM#26
Originally posted by Wizardry

I think the OP is mostly talking about it becoming an Esport?

I would say it is quite possible and i beleive i do remember reading not very long ago about that topic.

Right now Starcraft/SC2 are big Egames but the one set to go big time in Korea is LOL.This will hit Blizzard's marketing bigtime and allow the little game of LOL to get bigger notoriety than perhaps it deserves.I remeber Unreal came out of nowhere and the Esport made it a huge success,it was however a MUCH more robust game thaan LOL is.

The little game of LoL you mean the LoL that probablly has in excess of 30 million active accounts?

  Sagasaint

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Joined: 6/25/11
Posts: 474

I don't always play MMOs, but when I do, I play sandboxes

8/02/12 1:55:18 AM#27

the GW2 dev team is probably the best the industry can offer right now

and it shows

  JimmyYO

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Joined: 9/13/11
Posts: 541

8/02/12 1:59:43 AM#28

Vanilla WoW devs made a game with no emphasis on world pvp whatsoever? No wonder they are ex blizzard.

  Nadia

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Joined: 7/26/03
Posts: 11430

8/02/12 3:58:27 AM#29
Originally posted by Loke666

The whole idea was lead designer Jeff Strains and he got permision from Mike Morhaime who also was a EQ fanatic.

if i had to pick 3 of the most influential mmo visionaries of the last 2 decades it would be

- Richard Garriott, Ralph Koster, Jeff Strain  :)

 

Strain could have stuck w GW2 but that did not satisfy him,

so he left ANET to do a console mmo sandbox game

 

i never get tired of reading Strains Dev speech from 5 years ago

http://www.guildwars.com/events/tradeshows/gc2007/gcspeech.php

The truth is, I hope that I am completely ignorant about what kind of games we'll be making in ten years, because I hope some hotshot kid comes out of nowhere and changes everything out from under us before then. If that doesn't happen, we've all failed to embrace and protect the culture of innovation that made it possible for us to be here in the first place.

  ste2000

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Posts: 4733

8/02/12 4:04:59 AM#30
Originally posted by Ringside
The people that bullt the core of world of warcraft basicaly. They probably getting paid big box due to the granted success of What they created in the first place. Im sure GW2 will become a esport

 

Actually Anet was the team in charge of Diablo 2, they also worked on Warcraft 3.
  Nadia

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Posts: 11430

8/02/12 4:23:19 AM#31
Originally posted by ste2000
Originally posted by Ringside
The people that bullt the core of world of warcraft basicaly. They probably getting paid big box due to the granted success of What they created in the first place. Im sure GW2 will become a esport
Actually Anet was the team in charge of Diablo 2, they also worked on Warcraft 3.

mobygames gives a better list

 

I didnt list Jeff Strain because hes not with ANET anymore

but it is worth noting that Strain was the Lead programmer for WOW before he left to do Guild Wars

 

Mike O'Brien, team lead and lead programmer of Warcraft III

http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,9166/

 

Patrick Wyatt,  lead programmer for Warcraft I

http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,1019/

  cerebrix

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Joined: 6/03/04
Posts: 580

8/02/12 4:32:11 AM#32

you guys should be looking into eric flannum.  its his game after all.

 

i worked with him at shiny.  brilliant (and really nice!) guy

Games i'm playing right now...

"In short, I thought NGE was a very bad idea" - Raph Koster talking about NGE on his blog at raphkoster.com

  Nadia

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Posts: 11430

8/02/12 4:36:24 AM#33
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