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  MadDemon64

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Why is it that fantasy trolls are vulnerable to fire, but internet trolls thrive on flame wars?

8/01/12 2:31:45 PM#21

I'm still waiting to learn which races are restricted to free players.

Since when is Tuesday a direction?

  BarCrow

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8/01/12 2:57:13 PM#22
Originally posted by FrodoFragins

I'm not sure why the CE is worth 1000 and the others are worth 0. 

    Probably because most..if not all..of the special CE items will end up in the store. Making them..not so special. Essentially meaning we spent 2-3x more on a statue and a pretty box for a game that went F2P in record time. Anyway...they should give pre-orderers of various types some coin too. So I agree with you there. I still enjoy the game because I'm taking it reaaallll slooowwwww and was never a lover of the "end game" crap so lack of it doesnt bother me.

    I'll just finish all the stories and mostly move on with the occasional jump into battlegrounds (which I still like despite all the haters) and running old flashpoints to obtain gear for cosmetic purposes . I might try an Operation eventually but once a game's playerbase gets to the gear-rating and rejection phase (usualy a few months after launch)..and every elitist jackoff votes to kick you instead of offering to mentor  you or even just  understanding that everyone started at the beginning...well..that's when I tend to ignore those game features/content.

  BarCrow

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8/01/12 3:01:59 PM#23
Originally posted by MadDemon64

I'm still waiting to learn which races are restricted to free players.

I'm also wondering how this affects the legacy stuff. Granted it wasn't much to begin with..but if I've already unlocked races to be used for any class I certainly hope I don't have to pay for that race after F2P. Providing I choose not to sub.

  User Deleted
8/01/12 3:03:58 PM#24
Originally posted by FrodoFragins

I'm not sure why the CE is worth 1000 and the others are worth 0. 

 

Think of it as an "extra" 1000. Both CE and Standard get the same, except the CE gets that extra 1000...to spend on...umm..I dunno...something usefull hopefully.

  Weretigar

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8/01/12 3:13:17 PM#25

All I did was LOL when I saw the pic he used. It's like a golden dollar bill. He's like yeah were getting ready to milk these fans for all thier worth, and if they have a problem they wont be able to complain on the forums MwaHaHaHA!

  leviboley

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8/01/12 3:50:49 PM#26

You do get compensated, with their microtransaction currency. Did you miss that?

  Nanfoodle

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8/02/12 8:26:57 AM#27

Fail, they are going with SoE F2P model. Not intrested!!! They want to make it, they need to follow GW2 B2P model. You buy the game and you have access to all the game. Cash shop also needs to be nothing but time saving and cosmetic items. BioWare you fail again. Its like almost getting it right. I will come back when I can have full access to the game for my box price. I will shop your cash shop as I get you need to make money but they strong arming people to pay a monthly sub to have full access is not F2P. 

  erictlewis

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8/02/12 8:35:32 AM#28

Sounds a lot like turbine and soe. You get x number of cash to spend in the store.  LoL  turbine pulled this and I de-installed. SOE pulled this but there is nothing in the store that I spend points on.

This sounds the same and you got to wonder what will be in the store.  However points or not they still need to make the game fun or it will not matter.

 

  Nanfoodle

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8/02/12 8:38:40 AM#29
Originally posted by Dirktooth

Just to clarify, F2P is just an option. Subscription stays as usual. F2P option will have a crippled chat system and zero access to GTN and mail, just like the current unlimited trial.

 

This will ensure that mostly kids jump in this F2P model. Anyone that gets the value of B2P over F2P will not even bothing with SWToR. Buying the box should give you access to all the game. Thats fair. Locking me out of content is not the way to win real customers. GW2 will prove this and BioWare again will have to come from behind the 8 ball and try and play catch up. 

  Fadedbomb

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8/02/12 8:41:40 AM#30

What Jeff Hickman actually said, Decoded: "We failed to create an immersive breathing world (aka: an MMO) that people could enjoy past a one-time shot from start to finish. We then took an unfinished game engine, rewrote it to fit our own goals, and failed. We then charged people full box prices, and monthly subs, for said broken game engine that we slapped 'MMO' on the side of. So now that we see it was a certain failure we're going F2P because that's what we told the people they want."

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  User Deleted
8/08/12 8:31:28 AM#31
Originally posted by st3v3b0
Originally posted by mCalvert

DOnt supposed I can get my preorder fee back, since youre now giving away the game only 6 months later?

 

I am fairly certain you still have to pay the box price for the game.  It is just the monthly subscription option is now gone - similar to GW2.

Actually no if you want you must still sub if u want access to the entire game. Otherwise they will be selling content sections in the store. you will be limited to the content you can play for free and the limitations are drastic much like LOTRO and SOE games.

  lizardbones

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8/08/12 8:37:48 AM#32


Originally posted by Tayah

Originally posted by Nephaerius

Originally posted by Tayah

Originally posted by Nephaerius

Originally posted by st3v3b0

Originally posted by mCalvert DOnt supposed I can get my preorder fee back, since youre now giving away the game only 6 months later?
  I am fairly certain you still have to pay the box price for the game.  It is just the monthly subscription option is now gone - similar to GW2.
Pretty sure you're not going to need to buy the box.  Especially considering right now you can play 1-20 without a box purchase.  Also the whole point is to remove barriers of entry and purchasing a box is still a collossal one.
From what I understand, you still have to buy the box but it's $14.95 and that comes with 1 month sub.  
Someone should tell them they're doing it wrong then.  Guaranteed that box purchase will go to the wayside.
Yah, the details are a bit fuzzy atm. They say you can buy the box for $14.95 and then pay the $14.95 a month if you want sub advantages, not sure how it works. Maybe it's free to play to 50 but if you want to play further you have to buy the box and then pay the sub fee....



The way they phrased it was that in the Fall, the game goes free to play, but in the meantime, the box price will be dropped to $14.95. To me, that says the game will be free to download and play in the Fall. You probably still have to pay the $14.95 if you buy the box from a retailer in the Fall.

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  TheCrow2k

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8/08/12 8:37:56 AM#33
Originally posted by FrodoFragins

I'm not sure why the CE is worth 1000 and the others are worth 0. 

 

Possibly more CE owners have stuck around and they want to try and avoid alienating them ?

 

They are desperate at this point.

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