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  Gaia_Hunter

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8/01/12 9:30:03 AM#41
Originally posted by Creslin321

I can't watch the video...but I read over the topics, and I was honestly expecting some better constructive criticisms.  Some of them are decent, like no first person camera.  It would be nice to get a first person view, even if you can only see it while standing still for screenshots.  Not a huge deal, but I acknowledge it.  Same with mounts, would be nice, but not necessary.

But some of the other topics....I just don't know lol.  Like having to go into options to turn off double tap dodge...huh?  Maybe this was presented tongue-in-cheek or something, but I really don't see how this is an issue :).

Most of it is sarcastic...

Currently playing: GW2
Cooperative (semi cooperative)board games you should check: Pandemic, Sentinels of the Multiverse, Eldritch Horror, Descent 2.0,Level 7 Omega Protocol, Last Night on Earth

  Kyleran

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8/01/12 9:32:19 AM#42
Originally posted by AzurePrower

TL:DW version:



Summary: After a few weeks of gathering questions and information from people in our guild as well as those on the alttabme.com forums who had played Guild Wars 2, we decided it was time to dive into the not so popular and turns out, not so easy to do topic of: "Why you won't like Guild Wars 2". We tried to approach this very objectively and give you points as to why we think you may not like it and why we think that is OK and may or may not make the game "better" or "worse". Enjoy!

 

Some topics:

Cash Shop
High Adjustment Curve
No Raids
No World PvP
No Faction Tension
No Gear Dependency
It isn't WoW
Too much Hype
Kitty Power



Hey, thank you very much for this, exactly what I was looking for, appreciate it.

High adjustment curve concerns me a bit, not quite as adaptable as I used to be, but I've gotten through TERA and TSW so I'm hoping I'll be able to adjust to GW2 as well.

I view some of the other items as positives actually, (no raids, no gear dependency), some I don't care about (cash shop, no world PVP) and I haven't played much WOW in quite some time. (those 2 months for Cata don't count)

Actually my two concerns that will likely make GW2 a short term experience for me is the lack of virtually endless character progression (gear grinding is only one way to advance), a la perhaps DAOC's Realm ranks. (in terms of actual character power and not cosmetics which don't interest me)

The other issue is the lack of long term territory control and denial of same to others.  (a la EVE)

I realize both of these items are more the realm of more consequence oriented  PVP games or even sandboxes, but still are two major features I'd love some title to contain, but realize of course that isn't GW2.

But regardless, none of the issues mentioned above will really keep me from finding some fun in GW2 for some period of time, I've stopped trying to find the magic MMO that gets "everything" right, that day won't ever come.

 

 

 

"In these forums 'honest' seems to be a symonym for 'hates the game just like I do'" - ohioastro
Kyleran - Bitter Vet ™ since 2006
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  Bad.dog

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Joined: 5/20/10
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8/01/12 9:38:11 AM#43
Not just sure what the op's intention were naming this thread ...perhaps a little troll but the actual content of the pod-cast supplied some of the best PR I've seen for this game since I read the ArenaNet Manifesto
 
In one swoop these four people look every troll topic I've seen posted about GW2 and shot it in the foot ...then corrected the false hoods made by many detractors and then applied a kill shot to the head of the topic
 
I am darn sure the TSW and Tera fanbois will find this pod-cast very much to their disliking but as far as a GW2 fan this was about as good as it gets.

 

 

  Gaia_Hunter

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8/01/12 9:41:03 AM#44
Originally posted by Baddogbill
Not just sure what the op's intention were naming this thread ...[mod edit] but the actual content of the pod-cast supplied some of the best PR I've seen for this game since I read the ArenaNet Manifesto
 
In one swoop these four people look every troll topic I've seen posted about GW2 and shot it in the foot ...then corrected the false hoods made by many detractors and then applied a kill shot to the head of the topic
 
I am darn sure the TSW and Tera fanbois will find this pod-cast very much to their disliking but as far as a GW2 fan this was about as good as it gets.

 

 

That is the name of the pod.

That is their response to questions they had on the forums.

The only trollish thing the OP did was saying "negatives".

Cmon guys, just because haters troll GW2 all day long there is no need to leave the brain home.

Currently playing: GW2
Cooperative (semi cooperative)board games you should check: Pandemic, Sentinels of the Multiverse, Eldritch Horror, Descent 2.0,Level 7 Omega Protocol, Last Night on Earth

  Gaia_Hunter

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Posts: 2550

8/01/12 9:47:01 AM#45
Originally posted by Purgatus

Damn, over-reaction much? I may find the list hilriously bad for me persoanally, but just because its a disenting view doesnt mean we should just jump all over him. I would not mind a rebuttle peice though.......

The pod itslef is a rebutt to the list...

Currently playing: GW2
Cooperative (semi cooperative)board games you should check: Pandemic, Sentinels of the Multiverse, Eldritch Horror, Descent 2.0,Level 7 Omega Protocol, Last Night on Earth

  AzurePrower

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Joined: 3/18/07
Posts: 1530

Ahh yes, "Hypers." The people who praise and hate every MMORPG... We've dismissed that claim.

 
OP  8/01/12 9:49:13 AM#46

Fun fact.

I found this video on a Guild Wars 2 fansite by chance whilst googling to find out more information about WvWvW.

  Ivylena

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8/01/12 9:55:12 AM#47
Originally posted by botrytis

Well, they are positive points to me. As others have said, it is HIS opinion and you know what they say about opinions.........

Those with the most Opinions tend to have the fewest Facts.

TGIF...Thank God I'm Female

"Those with the most Opinions tend to have the fewest Facts"

  Bad.dog

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Posts: 896

8/01/12 9:57:19 AM#48
Originally posted by Mephster

All valid points but some fans only hear what they want to.

LOL I'm glad you have come over to our way of thinking ...the pod-cast tore many of your own complaints to pieces

  Gaia_Hunter

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8/01/12 9:59:00 AM#49
Originally posted by AzurePrower

Fun fact.

I found this video on a Guild Wars 2 fansite by chance whilst googling to find out more information about WvWvW.

Both haters and fans jump at what is front of them, without watching/listening.

It is intereting to see both fans and haters think this is an anti-GW2 piece when it is a pro-GW2 piece.

Currently playing: GW2
Cooperative (semi cooperative)board games you should check: Pandemic, Sentinels of the Multiverse, Eldritch Horror, Descent 2.0,Level 7 Omega Protocol, Last Night on Earth

  thekid1

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8/01/12 10:00:40 AM#50

Haven't played yet :(

Will await the free trail though, pretty excited for this game.

 

But it doesn't seem like a world.

More like any other mmorpg these days with quests, no player housing only done much better.

I'm afraid I will find the game to restricting, even with random events and what not and exploring.

I like to set my own goals and more importantly have lots of options to make them happen and not do what the game tells me to do.

  Gaia_Hunter

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8/01/12 10:02:31 AM#51
Originally posted by thekid1

Haven't played yet :(

Will await the free trail though, pretty excited for this game.

 

But it doesn't seem like a world.

More like any other mmorpg these days with quests, no player housing only done much better.

I'm afraid I will find the game to restricting, even with random events and what not and exploring.

I like to set my own goals and more importantly have lots of options to make them happen and not do what the game tells me to do.

If there is a thing that this game does well is looking like a living world (and making you play and wanting to play with other people).

Currently playing: GW2
Cooperative (semi cooperative)board games you should check: Pandemic, Sentinels of the Multiverse, Eldritch Horror, Descent 2.0,Level 7 Omega Protocol, Last Night on Earth

  thekid1

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8/01/12 10:07:11 AM#52
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by thekid1

Haven't played yet :(

Will await the free trail though, pretty excited for this game.

 

But it doesn't seem like a world.

More like any other mmorpg these days with quests, no player housing only done much better.

I'm afraid I will find the game to restricting, even with random events and what not and exploring.

I like to set my own goals and more importantly have lots of options to make them happen and not do what the game tells me to do.

If there is a thing that this game does well is looking like a living world.

I meant it more like something you live in. So gameplay wise (player content) instead of atmosphere.

SWG I considered a world (player content). WOW most certainly not. (no player content)

I haven't read much about crafting and how the economy is being handled and how many options you have in pvp (and pve) so I hope I'm wrong.

  Ryowulf

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8/01/12 10:15:36 AM#53

There are things on that list that don't make me like GW2 more, but the good outweight the negative for me.

 

Bag space. Its pretty limited, but you can make it bigger with cash or buy gems with ingame money.

range vs melee. Yeah melee is weaker, but every class can range fight and melee is useful at times (just not all the time).

Armor repair. Yeah it would be nice if you could repair at any merchant.

 

  Gaia_Hunter

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8/01/12 10:18:26 AM#54
Originally posted by Ryowulf

There are things on that list that don't make me like GW2 more, but the good outweight the negative for me.

 

Bag space. Its pretty limited, but you can make it bigger with cash or buy gems with ingame money.

range vs melee. Yeah melee is weaker, but every class can range fight and melee is useful at times (just not all the time).

Armor repair. Yeah it would be nice if you could repair at any merchant.

 

Bag space limited?

100 slots once you get 20 slot bags, that you can craft...

And stacks can contain 250 items (including materials) and can be sent to bank from anywhere...

Currently playing: GW2
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  Aque

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8/01/12 10:19:04 AM#55

Lol,

This whole thread just seemed like a lot of hot air-

Most of what I seen and heard was more or less opinion. ( Its funny how people fight over opinions)

 

But I still agree the thread name should be changed, even if its just a copy from another site.

 

  Xexv

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8/01/12 10:27:36 AM#56


Originally posted by Xzen


How did you guys not see it coming?


This...OP pretty much admitted this thread was for the lulz a few pages in. However you get your kicks eh mate.

Xexv Xfire Miniprofile
  MindTrigger

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8/01/12 10:28:02 AM#57

What I find hilarious about these threads is that this is basically SWTOR all over again.  Everyone has decided, for the moment, that GW2 will be the best game they have ever played.  They did the same thing for TOR.  If you say something negative, they climb down your throat.

I should start listing names of well-known people on these forums that thought TOR was the next Jesus, and bashed all things GW2, and are now here hanging off GW2 nuts in the same fashion.

I won't though, because it's quite amusing to watch all of this (again, and again) with each new game release.

A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.

  indrct

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8/01/12 10:34:38 AM#58

Honestly just sounds like a pissy bitch made this podcast.

  MadKing

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8/01/12 10:39:36 AM#59

I'm not even gonna bother reading the entire thread, I'm just here block list shopping. keep up the good work guys.

  dageeza

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8/01/12 10:50:30 AM#60

Those so snug and smug in their current clone games will eventually learn to love GW2 or they can stay in whatever clone game they are in and be alone as their guilds players start shifting to GW2 first slowly and then at full charge..

The revolution hasnt even began yet but as we stand on the hill preparing to do battle and looking down upon them we could see that the $15 a month rent a clone industries knees are buckling already as they prepare a white flag plan to surrender to freemium rather than stand and fight..

 

Playing GW2..

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