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  3-4thElf

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7/31/12 6:09:45 PM#41

Eww. This gives Free to Play games a bad name.

They should've just closed it.

a yo ho ho

  mussolini

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7/31/12 6:19:35 PM#42

Fast fail.

  cyress8

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BOOYAKA!

7/31/12 6:24:55 PM#43

Guess some of the people that predicted it will go F2P before it hit 1 year were right. :D

BOOYAKA!

  SteamRanger

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I don''t have to know how to make a better game, I only need to know where the "CANCEL" button is!

7/31/12 6:29:58 PM#44

Like LOTRO before it, SWTOR is about to be invaded by the Skint Armada!

"Soloists and those who prefer small groups should never have to feel like they''re the ones getting the proverbial table scraps, as it were." - Scott Hartsman, Senior Producer, Everquest II
"People love groups. Its a fallacy that people want to play solo all the time." - Scott Hartsman, Executive Producer, Rift

  rojoArcueid

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"It is double pleasure to deceive the deceiver". - Niccolo Machiavelli

7/31/12 6:33:57 PM#45

OK, Swtor F2P this fall. I also want WAR F2P... come one EAWARE/Mythic

  xpiher

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7/31/12 6:47:13 PM#46
Unless you are wow, you don't make money off of subs. Most profit is made off of initial sales. AoC initial sales netted 2mill in profit.

And about gw2. PvE isn't meant to keep most people playing, just enough to guarantee that expansions net profit, just like gw1.


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  tawess

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7/31/12 6:50:17 PM#47

This is not unexpected, seeing as thi have been EA's way of doing stuff for some time. This makes me even more ceartin that WAR actually makes to little money to be worth switching over to F2P... And that is kinda sad in several ways.

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This have been a good conversation

  Onomas

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Sandbox is your only hope for a decent mmo ;)

7/31/12 7:19:41 PM#48

They make games way to easy these days and it doesnt hold the attention of the player base. Im sorry but for the amount of time nad money this game was just bad. More and more games try to fit into the single player console style rpg and it just doesnt work. Who wants to pay 15/month for a single player game?

 

Still cant believe they got rid of SWG for this, SWG though having a small player base was 100 times the mmo TOR was. Bring it back now, you probably make more money from SWG than you would TOR.

  Elikal

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7/31/12 8:03:27 PM#49

Good Sirs, if you see the Bioware dudes next time, can you, with all given politeness, ask them WHEN THE HECK I WILL GET MY DAMN NAMES BACK THEY STOLE FROM ME WHEN ABANDONING MY SEVRVER?

Sorry.

That really, really, REALLY upset me. And I really, really would wish to know an answer to that. Can you and your associates arrange that?

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

  cronius77

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7/31/12 9:06:05 PM#50

now bioware can you please make warhammer online and DAOC free to play also KThx!

 

  heartless

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7/31/12 9:13:20 PM#51
Originally posted by cronius77

now bioware can you please make warhammer online and DAOC free to play also KThx!

 

Might as well make UO F2P also. Since a much better version of it is already available for free elsewhere.

  cronius77

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7/31/12 9:50:14 PM#52

you are right about that but seriously people can talk all the crap they want about warhammer online but if they made it free to play where you pay for the tiers and other stuff they would see a HUGE player increase because anyone who enjoys pvp similiar to GW2 and DAOC will go and play it. WAR is a great game at its core design but mythic is just idiots with the lack of patches and communication with their community. WAR was doing fine until mythic lost most of their staff and stopped all talk with its community now its just a damn husk and sell of its former self. Some of my favorite memories recently came out of WAR at release next to DAOC its the most fun ive had in a mmorpg.

  Purutzil

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The Critical Hit Pretzel!

8/01/12 12:55:56 AM#53
Originally posted by terrant

Only goes to prove my current theory about the current developer mindset:

 

  1. Launch with a "standard" box price and sub to drum up initial capital.
  2. Once the initial rush dies off, switch gears to a f2p+microtransaction system
  3. Rake in the REAL cash, slowly but surely.
 
Mark my words, right here and now. TSW will go F2P within a year, WoW will within 3 years.

I disagree. F2P can be called a 'rehatch' in terms of attempting to return attention to a game but its not really used as a cash rake. Its not as 'ensured' as a F2P model and companies typically want a generally 'steady' income rather then spuradic for as much as possible. 

 

Rift still remains P2P and is even coming out with an expansion. I see F2P as ultimately a point where a game has lost a lot of momentum and needs to pick it up.

  Langsdorff

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8/01/12 1:25:40 AM#54

It's nice to see so many people have so much to say about TOR; a game that used to be THE MOST popular game out there. Now that TSW and GW2 have taken that spot, because the graphics are cooler or whatever, TOR is rubbish because of the F2P model. I mean there are nice games that are sometimes free, so sub games that are B2P aren't always the best way to go, but usually developers need to recoup their money in a hurry. 

Langsdorff

  encopitt

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8/01/12 2:21:37 AM#55
Originally posted by gravesworn
I feel bad for those of us that wasted our money on this garbage.

^^This...

 
  JeroKane

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8/01/12 3:23:01 AM#56
Originally posted by gaeanprayer
Originally posted by terrant

Only goes to prove my current theory about the current developer mindset:

 

  1. Launch with a "standard" box price and sub to drum up initial capital.
  2. Once the initial rush dies off, switch gears to a f2p+microtransaction system
  3. Rake in the REAL cash, slowly but surely.
 
Mark my words, right here and now. TSW will go F2P within a year, WoW will within 3 years.

I doubt TSW will take more than 6 months to go F2P. The kind of content in that game that people REALLY like isn't the kind of easy-to-make crap that we see regurgitated nonstop in other mmos, the grindy quests and the endless gear/dungeon grind. It's the storyline and the investigative quests that make it interesting, and I promise you they won't be able to keep up with the demands of players for more of it, for very long. People will start bitching they're out of content (if they haven't already), they'll start leaving, then whoosh...f2p. Just like SWToR

TSW doesn't need to go F2P. They already have Sub+Cashshop.

1. It didn't cost an astronomical amount to develop, unlike SW:TOR.

2. And thus it needs far less subs to sustain the game and still make enough profit.

3. It already has a CashShop directly from start selling cosmetic fluff, which already seems to be doing very well, as people are buying stuff in there like crazy. So they already make a ton of money on this.

 

  VassagoMael

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8/01/12 3:23:37 AM#57

Don't care. Game is garbage.

Free to play = content updates for the cash shop. Buy to play = content updates for the cash shop.
Subscription = Actual content updates!

  Illyssia

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8/01/12 3:27:25 AM#58
Originally posted by JeroKane
Originally posted by gaeanprayer
Originally posted by terrant

Only goes to prove my current theory about the current developer mindset:

 

  1. Launch with a "standard" box price and sub to drum up initial capital.
  2. Once the initial rush dies off, switch gears to a f2p+microtransaction system
  3. Rake in the REAL cash, slowly but surely.
 
Mark my words, right here and now. TSW will go F2P within a year, WoW will within 3 years.

I doubt TSW will take more than 6 months to go F2P. The kind of content in that game that people REALLY like isn't the kind of easy-to-make crap that we see regurgitated nonstop in other mmos, the grindy quests and the endless gear/dungeon grind. It's the storyline and the investigative quests that make it interesting, and I promise you they won't be able to keep up with the demands of players for more of it, for very long. People will start bitching they're out of content (if they haven't already), they'll start leaving, then whoosh...f2p. Just like SWToR

TSW doesn't need to go F2P. They already have Sub+Cashshop.

1. It didn't cost an astronomical amount to develop, unlike SW:TOR.

2. And thus it needs far less subs to sustain the game and still make enough profit.

3. It already has a CashShop directly from start selling cosmetic fluff, which already seems to be doing very well, as people are buying stuff in there like crazy. So they already make a ton of money on this.

 

I wouldn't be so sure. AoC, another Funcom game, went to F2P model. If TSW is under 100K subs then it may have to go there too.

  User Deleted
8/01/12 7:53:59 AM#59
Buyer beware, the dropped box price is enticing but why make it all look so good? Could have kept the price up around $40 and made some change, the lower price is because they have a plan for the days ahead to make f2p look generous now but ream people later.
  MataOCD

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8/01/12 10:03:28 AM#60

I'm looking forward to this game.

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