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  User Deleted
7/31/12 4:06:26 PM#81
Originally posted by MikeB
Originally posted by garrett

first again...

I'll get you, Gadget!

You know MikeB, I'm sure they decided this after this site clearly proved that the Hybrid Model is the best pricing model for MMORPG's.

(I like B2P, but apparently BioWare agreed with you!)

  User Deleted
7/31/12 4:06:26 PM#82

I think they picked the wrong model to start with, and this one isnt much better.

A game like this should have been Buy to Play like GW1 and GW2. With expansions on the story every 6 months.

Free to play that lets players see the whole story (pretty much the only thing worthwhile in the game) won't bring them in any money because the end game is bad.

  ignore_me

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7/31/12 4:06:32 PM#83
Originally posted by Fadedbomb

So yea, totally called this (albeit a couple months over my estimation as I predicted it'd go F2P by the end of June) prior to SWTOR's release, and I was called a troll / hater?

 

SWTOR is what it is, a very bad singleplayer game with COOP elements. Sorry, it's not an MMO, and it most certainly isn't "Fun".

 

What a waste of the StarWars IP.

 

Also, internal discussion @ LA is that if SWTOR's license is canceled there will NEVER be another StarWars MMO. Ever.... :(

 

They plan to shoot primarily for Console only games, or Social gaming on Mobile products. Such a pathetic company :I.

Even after this debacle, peeps will still buy and play a SW MMO. Saying no to cash has never been a behavior for LA.

Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

  User Deleted
7/31/12 4:06:43 PM#84
Originally posted by Rossboss

Microtransactions are the devil. The fact that the game cost so much to produce means they are going to push the cash shop just as hard to make up for their failure. It isn't LoL where they run off of aesthetics and shortcuts, it will be like Perfect World where it's 10 times cheaper to just pay for WoW.

 

That and their universe is packed with lore that nobody aside from Star Wars fans cares about.

Not really. No. If the transactions are done correctly for the correct items (no gear). The transactions that are of the devil are those the restrict content, which is like a REALLY old system that LOTRO uses still to this day. Basically they are proving that they are still behind the times even in F2P.

  Tenebrion

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7/31/12 4:10:38 PM#85

I, personally, am completely shocked that SWTOR is going free to play. I believe I speak for all of us when I say that NO ONE could have predicted this.


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  waynejr2

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RIP City of Heroes!

7/31/12 4:10:48 PM#86
Originally posted by Foomerang

I'm gonna predict a Star Wars Galaxies relaunch by December.

Why do you need to predict anything?????????????????????????????????????

  nonthal

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7/31/12 4:11:06 PM#87

SWTOR was not the second coming that it was hyped to be, just like so many other games that get the same kind of hype. Too many people really thought they were getting SWG 2.0 and just jumped aboard blindly. To those of us who actually did our homework, we knew what we were getting - and except for the Illum debacle, we pretty much got what they promised.

With the move to f2p, as long as they do what they are saying and don't cross the lines to p2w, I think it wil be a positive thing. It will not only allow people to give the game a chance and see it for what it is( rather than relying on the hate obsessed people on so many game forums), but it will allow the in game community (which, on my server at least, is one of the best I have seen since UO) to grow and flourish.

It is all about how EA/BW handles this - if they do it right it could be great, but they have to do it right. Personally, after reading the provided material on the SWTOR site, I am going to just maintain my sub for simplicity sake - but I know some people who are more apt to get into (or back into) the game since they no longer have to commit.

  Dren_Utogi

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7/31/12 4:11:43 PM#88

game is a turd. Thats my opinion not fact.

 
  dronfwar

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1+1=1
(IMO)

7/31/12 4:15:00 PM#89

the polling here was right. F2P in a year.

  Rossboss

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7/31/12 4:17:25 PM#90
Originally posted by itgrowls
Originally posted by Rossboss

Microtransactions are the devil. The fact that the game cost so much to produce means they are going to push the cash shop just as hard to make up for their failure. It isn't LoL where they run off of aesthetics and shortcuts, it will be like Perfect World where it's 10 times cheaper to just pay for WoW.

 

That and their universe is packed with lore that nobody aside from Star Wars fans cares about.

Not really. No. If the transactions are done correctly for the correct items (no gear). The transactions that are of the devil are those the restrict content, which is like a REALLY old system that LOTRO uses still to this day. Basically they are proving that they are still behind the times even in F2P.

That's the issue. The ideal F2P model gives the opportunity to players to pay for things they like or want that make them look cool/different in order to support the company and developer. The problem is that SWTOR isn't an innovator, already has so much content planned for a userbase that is rapidly leaving, and doesn't really have anything to draw players in to pay for this stuff. I still think GW series has the best business model, pay for the game, no subscription.

LoL is a prime example of how the cash shop should ideally function. You can pay for this stuff if you want to, or you can play to achieve this stuff. Some aesthetics are purchasable and boosts if you really want to support your game's developement.

I played WoW up until WotLK, played RoM for 2 years and now Rift.
I am F2P player. I support games when I feel they deserve my money and I want the items enough.
I don't troll, and I don't take kindly to trolls.

  heartless

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Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan

7/31/12 4:18:20 PM#91

I'm usually not the one to say I toad a so but you know what? I toad a so... I fucking toad a so.

On a more serious note, EA has a bunch of clueless people in charge of their MMOs.

  Xstatic912

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7/31/12 4:19:09 PM#92
The game is still profitable, but the future doesn't look bright.. They keep bleeding subs (losing 100k a month, I think) and they don't see those person returning with more solid releases coming up.. So instead of waiting on the critical point, make the change now..

Funny thing Gw2 and the old iron horse "Wow" might actually kill this game population off to where it's not even worth trying f2p option...
  Dren_Utogi

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7/31/12 4:22:36 PM#93
Originally posted by dronfwar

the polling here was right. F2P in a year.

 

LESS THEN A YEAR. 6months / 7months it took it from being the srmageddon to wow, to just another f2p game.

  mcburly

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7/31/12 4:22:44 PM#94

and the best game on the market just got better.

  ignore_me

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7/31/12 4:25:04 PM#95

O'doyle Rules!   /throws the goat

Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

  fenistil

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7/31/12 4:27:44 PM#96

btw  Does anyone remember EA-Bioware basically bashing f2p and freemium  models for Swtor cause it does not allow for enough quality?

It was like 8 months ago? just before Swtor launch?

 

hihihi

  Snikz

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7/31/12 4:27:45 PM#97

Well to be honest im kinda glad this happens. It shows that the future of western MMO's are hybrid..

If i like a game i would happely pay the 15dollars a month, but then i expect EVERYTHING is free = Content, looks everything!!

  konrad16660

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"MEDIC!!!"

7/31/12 4:29:26 PM#98

F2P i think these days should be the standard.  I believe that having item shops is the way to go.    This game is one of those games where I wouldn't play it if I didn't have to commit to the $15, in fact, I think i let my sub run for a month without playing before I finally remembered to shut it off.  I can see myself playing in the future if its free.  Seeing as its Star Wars, item shops are a really good proposition since Star Wars thrives off collectables.  An item shop would literally be a collectables shop.  A characteristic that not many other games can boast.

  Ontblod

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Hey ho, lets go!

7/31/12 4:30:40 PM#99
Originally posted by Dalmont

F2P i guess is the model for crap. Real games are subscription :P

Yea because first paying for a game and then 14 dollar a month is...normal and I wanna do it?...lol. :P

  Tierless

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joie de vivre

7/31/12 4:30:40 PM#100

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in uncontrolled laughter and were suddenly echoed. I fear something laughable has happened.

Typical EA, FTP but pay to win, nice!

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