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  IPolygon

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7/31/12 10:45:36 AM#121

It's a good game. I am hyped for GW2 as much as I was  for Orcs Must Die 2.

  Jimmydean

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7/31/12 10:51:31 AM#122

What makes the hype different? Nothing. It's still hype. People act this way before every big game launch. 

  Clerigo

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7/31/12 11:19:35 AM#123

Hype is just a measure of balance between what you know by personal experience and what the seller is doing to try sell the product to you.

I will give you some expert insight on it with a simple example:

Guild Wars 1 was my first likable mmo experience and i still play it because i like so many things in that game, the environment, sound score, events, etc etc and the way Arenanet managed it all these years. So when GW2 was announced and i start to see all these videos by the staff, their manifestos, their clear commitment and honesty in making this work...im positively hyped for GW2.

WoW was my best online gaming experience ever. I had so much fun i can compare it to eating some pizza, drink beer and hang out with the guys (yes i was addicted), and Blizzard had already made the incredible warcraft series and the unforgettable Diablo, so when TBC expansion launched i was so overly hyped and excited i couldnt pee, and you know things with the hype factor are not good when you start to see Mr. T and JCVD playing WoW also, so everything that Blizzard did with WoW after Vanilla brought my hype factor from 200% to about 90%, then i see i was only allowed to play WoW because Chuck Norris says so, and then i get to see Pandas and Pokemon will rule the earth...so hype is down to 50%....

...so when Diablo 3 was ready to geting released i already had little faith in this game, but the 50% hype feel was still there, you know being Blizzard and stuff, but then the RMAH bang...25% hype. And then no offline play bang...15% hype...see how that works?

...so i decided not to buy the game and that Blizzard was doomed to failure in morality and success in revenue. But my friends were still living in hype land and Naxxramas raids, so they bursted into flames and bought me the game. So i played Diablo for 240 hours with my hyped friends bang....hype is down to -50%

...so next time Blizzard launches something my hype level is down the drain, and no chuck norris add suited in full combat gear will make me buy any game of them ever again.

 

  Badaboom

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7/31/12 11:23:46 AM#124

For me the hype was prior to any of the betaweekends.  After playing in the betaweekends all you are left with are truths...and I love the truths that I saw and experienced.

  IamApropos

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Guild Wars 2 is absolutely Revolutionary!

7/31/12 12:18:38 PM#125

I'd like to see some links to some examples of "Over Hype" in context with Guild Wars 2?  Link or it isn't happening.

Those of us who have put in the research and hands on tested the promised mechanics of the game well know the difference between "Over Hype" Caused by false advertisement and unrealistic expectations compared to "Excitement" based on hands on experience.

 

The only thing that seems "Over Hyped" is the unfounded ignorant claims that the game is over hyped... 

 

The only people I have seen on these forums or others who have stated anything that seems over hyped are not the fans. It seems that there is more "Over Hype" about the game being over hyped then the reality of the matter...

I don't ever see Guild Wars 2 fan stating "its the second coming" or some stupid ignorant comments blanketly comparing this games word of mouth excitement to being over hype just like everything else.  The only people whom seem to be over reacting are the haters because when the guild wars 2 fans react to some lie or misinformed, ignorant player its equated to "Fanboism" instead of seeing that the Troll is getting what he deserves.

 

I personally welcome criticism of Guild Wars 2 but I don't welcome some jerk trying to spout lies and misinformed ignorance because his previous game failed and caused him to be jaded so he / she must find fault and ruin it for others.

 

When it came to Swtor I could see in beta it wasn't going to be what the dev's hyped it to be, same with RIFT and so many other games.   But I can truly tell you that if Guild Wars 2 is played and expected to play how ANET planned it to be played then it causes Extreme "Excitement"  therefor you get people like me who have put in over 100 hours of game play so for, whom have tested nearly every aspect of the game and proven its absolutely EVERYTHING they promised it to be thus far.

 

There is a huge difference between "Over Hype" and "Word of Mouth Excitement"  Over hype is usually an unrealistic expectation based on a blind bias and fades after a real test.  But since the OP clearly has a blind belief that the excitement for Guild Wars 2 is people just overly excited without reason it feels pointless to try and explain something so logical.

 

Now on Guild Wars 2 and why the excitement for this game makes the "Hype" comments just seem so ignorantly uninformed...

So far in its beta form its better then nearly all the games that have launched previously.  It does have some wrinkles to iron out but seriously its more polished and extremely detailed compared to nearly anything.   The twist on how you do events and quests within the world is so nicely done that it never feels like a chore and you are never forced to do anything you do not wish to do.  You absolutely do not have to do any particular Renown heart quests, Dynamic Event, or Grind Dungeons. You do not have to grind a dungeon to get the items you must have to further progression.   You do exactly what you'd like to do and enjoy the ride that ANET has taken 5 years to develop.

No fighting over nodes, no fighting over mobs, no fighting over anything.  Anet has provided a game that is insanely fun and has brought back that feeling of adventure and rewarding exploration.  All the things I hate about previous MMO's and a lot of the things I love about previous MMO's are addressed in this game.

The Detail and attention to detail are just mind blowing.  The hidden treasure's of little events that aren't marked and sprinkled all over Tyria are just astounding to me.  You never know when or what will catch your attention and have you off embarked on another adventure all the while you were trying to reach a destination across the map, just to find yourself 3-4 hours in and on the opposite side of the map.

its funny how recent games you see valid complaints of major game mechanics such as clunky choppy stop and go combat with incredibly horrible questing system and or another game with god awful horrible combat animations or others with a serious lack of content.   All of these were addressed during and after the beta's of these games.  The only thing I've been seeing from Guild Wars 2 haters is "What if they don't provide what they promise in the future"?  Well what if monkeys fly out my azz....  So far the majority have proven the game is what ANET has promised and they have a great track record of doing just that.  We have no realistic reason to believe this will change, and if it does so be it but as of right now its unfounded.

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  botrytis

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7/31/12 12:21:45 PM#126
Originally posted by Badaboom

For me the hype was prior to any of the betaweekends.  After playing in the betaweekends all you are left with are truths...and I love the truths that I saw and experienced.

QFT!!!

A.Net said this is what they would deliver and so far they have met what they said they would do. It is great to see a company deliver like that.

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  grimal

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7/31/12 12:47:58 PM#127

For those in denial about the "hype", article asking whether GW2 is the MOST hyped game ever:

http://www.inentertainment.co.uk/20120725/review-of-guild-wars-2-excitement/

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  Nobadeeftw

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7/31/12 12:51:50 PM#128
Originally posted by Kyus_HoB

Hi Origional poster, 

 

The reason why things are different this time round is simple. 

Arena Net said they would make a game with a certain game mechanic and a certain type of content.

We have played the BWE's and currently we have a very good looking game, with the mechanic stated and the content as stated by the developer. The other factor is the game is not trying to tick off everyones boxes its Arena nets title and they have stayed true to everything that has been said so far.

Whilst there are some issues wtih the game it is overwhelmingly in a better shape than any game I have ever played at this stage in development.

It also boasts excellent value for money with no subscritption fee's in comparison to the content delivered especially with the longevity that WvW and SPvP bring to the game.

 

I'd highly recommend just playing on release the game is a one time box purchase only and even if its not perfect for your playstyle its something you can always dip into when you like.

 

Just to add I played BWE 1 and thought that was good but not great, then played BWE2 and Loved it! the reason for this was I wasn't playing the game properly in the first weekend, in the second it clicked and I got how tactical it can get.

 

This ^

I've been in some bad beta's in the past and knew before the game even launched that it was going to flop!  Most recent case would be The Old Republic.  I was constantly screaming at the devs in the forums during beta; because, they kept making it worse and lying to everyone.  They threatened to ban me rather than listen to what me and countless others were saying every day.

I had an entirely different experience when I started beta testing GW2.  The devs were not blowing smoke at anyone and they were actually listening to the feedback.  On top of this, what Kyus said, they actually deliviered what they promised.  That's something most devs these days fail to do.

  Purgatus

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7/31/12 12:53:14 PM#129
Originally posted by QuicklyScott
Originally posted by Apropo

*snip*

Maybe you should recogonize your own hypocritical ignorance before spouting a holier than thou diatribe about the "haters".  If you had read this thread you would have seen that there have been examples linked to crazy hype threads in these forums.  Is it not an example of your own ignornace that you don't see things like that?  Also, isn't over defending a game which happens every day on this site, another form of hype.  I mean, the top 5 posts on the main page are usually GW2 related, and most are in a thread which is regarded as a troll with people retorting to the OP,stating how great they think GW2 is.  That is hype is it not?  This thread is an example.

This post is niether hypocritical, nor ignorant. The bulk of GW2 supporters are fairly level folks.

"Hype" has the connotation of unfufilled promise. After the beta weekends its no longer a promise but experience. We still have a great deal of game to discover, and it may not live up to expectations, but by and large, the game has already shown many of us that it does all those things it was "hyped" to do.

  Quizzical

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7/31/12 12:55:02 PM#130

This time the hype is based on game mechanics, not stupid marketing fluff.  When's the last time that happened for a heavily anticipated MMORPG?  Excluding times where a lot of the promised game mechanics were stripped out prior to release, that is.

  waynejr2

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7/31/12 1:15:31 PM#131
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by BigRock411

Am i going to end up playing a hated game a month after launch despite it being unfallable prior to launch?

You're looking for a money-back guarantee?  We're just gamers man.

You don't have to live in fear, it's only money.

Well said.

  eyelolled

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7/31/12 1:17:02 PM#132
Originally posted by QuicklyScott
Originally posted by Apropo

I'd like to see some links to some examples of "Over Hype" in context with Guild Wars 2?  Link or it isn't happening.

Those of us who have put in the research and hands on tested the promised mechanics of the game well know the difference between "Over Hype" Caused by false advertisement and unrealistic expectations compared to "Excitement" based on hands on experience.

 

The only thing that seems "Over Hyped" is the unfounded ignorant claims that the game is over hyped... 

 

... its unfounded.

Maybe you should recogonize your own hypocritical ignorance before spouting a holier than thou diatribe about the "haters".  If you had read this thread you would have seen that there have been examples linked to crazy hype threads in these forums.  Is it not an example of your own ignornace that you don't see things like that?  Also, isn't over defending a game which happens every day on this site, another form of hype.  I mean, the top 5 posts on the main page are usually GW2 related, and most are in a thread which is regarded as a troll with people retorting to the OP,stating how great they think GW2 is.  That is hype is it not?  This thread is an example.

I think what most people here (I use the term most people because it is a vast majority) feel is that the handful of "haters" ( I use the term handful because it's you and a few others) have a tendancy to exaggerate things, and make them appear to be a lot worse then they really are.

For example; You state that there have been examples linked of crazy hype threads in these forums. There has actually only been one. This is what people call an exaggeration.  BTW, you were the person posting that link.

There has also been another example of a hype thread on a completely different site with no affiliation to MMORPG.com that you posted. Yep, that number was ONE.

Below your post is a link to a website that did a reveiw on the excitement for GW2. Wow! Thats craziness isn't it!!! Someone else posted a link. Too bad the article never once said it was over hyped, nor did it make any earth shattering predictions. hmmm

 

So maybe you should tone down your "anti-hype" hormones before you start accusing people of being hypocrites and that sort of thing.

 

EDIT: I totally should have ended it with "NOW who's the hype hypocrite!"  lol

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  rygard49

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7/31/12 1:21:49 PM#133
Originally posted by Badaboom

For me the hype was prior to any of the betaweekends.  After playing in the betaweekends all you are left with are truths...and I love the truths that I saw and experienced.

For a lot us gamers, we didn't want to gamble on a pre-purchase for a guarantee of beta weekend access and we were unable to get access through any other avenue. So even though your experiences in game may have dispelled the hype and turned it into pure, unfettered truth, there are many of us who are still being hyped because we simply haven't had the same chance at those experiences.

So for us we're still being hyped (and over-hyped in many cases) for the game.

Also I'd like to add that, for me, my definition of "hype" includes in game experiences reported from others. Hype to me isn't pure marketing bullshit. It's a measure of excitement for the game based on actual experience and expectation from the title, in addition to the marketing spin that game companies love to use.

I like what I'm hearing so far, but it's still hyped like crazy from all angles.

  Drakynn

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7/31/12 1:28:24 PM#134

In my opinion GW2's Hype gets more Hype ont his site than GW2 itself.Hype is a legitimate marketing tool as is Fan word of mouth,it's up to every idnividual to do their own research on a product and decide for themselves,if they choose isntead to belive amrketing and buy blind that on the consumer.

  Sentime

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7/31/12 1:32:23 PM#135

There is nothing different this time.

I'd put hype as one of the primary reasons for the complete crap that the MMO industry puts out.

Just imagine if all that money and time was spent on development instead of hype.

  rygard49

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7/31/12 1:34:58 PM#136
Originally posted by Sentime

There is nothing different this time.

I'd put hype as one of the primary reasons for the complete crap that the MMO industry puts out.

Just imagine if all that money and time was spent on development instead of hype.

Money spent does not equal a better game. Example: TOR.

  Icewhite

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7/31/12 2:08:49 PM#137
Originally posted by rygard49

Also I'd like to add that, for me, my definition of "hype" includes in game experiences reported from others. Hype to me isn't pure marketing bullshit. It's a measure of excitement for the game based on actual experience and expectation from the title, in addition to the marketing spin that game companies love to use.

I like what I'm hearing so far, but it's still hyped like crazy from all angles.

Possibly is.  So what?  We can choose not to offend of defend, and In four weeks (bit less), all questions will be answered.

Three Andy Jacksons.  How much time should the average player spend worrying and fretting over that minimal an investment?  What does it take him to feel SAFE, with all of these prophets of doom whispering "Careful!  omg be Careful now!" in his ear?  "You might make a mistake!"

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  rygard49

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7/31/12 3:19:29 PM#138
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by rygard49

Also I'd like to add that, for me, my definition of "hype" includes in game experiences reported from others. Hype to me isn't pure marketing bullshit. It's a measure of excitement for the game based on actual experience and expectation from the title, in addition to the marketing spin that game companies love to use.

I like what I'm hearing so far, but it's still hyped like crazy from all angles.

Possibly is.  So what?  We can choose not to offend of defend, and In four weeks (bit less), all questions will be answered.

Three Andy Jacksons.  How much time should the average player spend worrying and fretting over that minimal an investment?  What does it take him to feel SAFE, with all of these prophets of doom whispering "Careful!  omg be Careful now!" in his ear?  "You might make a mistake!"

It takes actual play time in the game, and/or the thumbs up from a trusted source. And there's no time limit for considering an investment of any size. Especially since, in this case, the game isn't even out yet and won't be for another month.

In my case, even if it were only 5 dollars I'd still want to spend that money wisely, and not frivolously on something I may or may not enjoy.  I've been burned in the past by games that I've researched and assumed I would enjoy, letting excitement over it's potential get the best of me. So now I put a more discerning eye into any money I spend on my gaming hobby. I don't see why that's a bad mindset.

 

 

  gestalt11

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7/31/12 3:24:17 PM#139

I'll tell you what makes the hype different this time.

 

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  Badaboom

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7/31/12 3:33:21 PM#140
Originally posted by rygard49
Originally posted by Badaboom

For me the hype was prior to any of the betaweekends.  After playing in the betaweekends all you are left with are truths...and I love the truths that I saw and experienced.

For a lot us gamers, we didn't want to gamble on a pre-purchase for a guarantee of beta weekend access and we were unable to get access through any other avenue. So even though your experiences in game may have dispelled the hype and turned it into pure, unfettered truth, there are many of us who are still being hyped because we simply haven't had the same chance at those experiences.

So for us we're still being hyped (and over-hyped in many cases) for the game.

Also I'd like to add that, for me, my definition of "hype" includes in game experiences reported from others. Hype to me isn't pure marketing bullshit. It's a measure of excitement for the game based on actual experience and expectation from the title, in addition to the marketing spin that game companies love to use.

I like what I'm hearing so far, but it's still hyped like crazy from all angles.

I definitely see your point.  I was just talking from my point of view, because I got to experience it.  Their are a lot of people who, as of yet, have not had a chance to play it.  So by me talking favourably about it, I'm contributing to the "hype."  With all of the youtube vids out about this game, people really should be able to make an educated decision when purchasing this game. 

 

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