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7/29/12 4:14:41 PM#21
Originally posted by Garvon3 Alright, I had to comment on this one. It's kind of BS. Answer me this: in what other popular MMO do you see people helping each other up, thanking each other, using each other's spells to perform combos and generally playing well with others? Your complaint is ill-founded. Compare the game to a gear grind where other players are not welcome because they might steal your kills. "So little interaction"? I want to know what game has more. no GW2 won't kill WoW, but it's time to move on and quit worrying about those people still playing it. - eyelolled |
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7/29/12 4:35:13 PM#22
Originally posted by chelan See? We are evolving. We may eventually become fandooms or something like that. |
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7/29/12 4:45:26 PM#23
Originally posted by Kensaiken0 How much did you play? |
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7/29/12 4:55:48 PM#24
Originally posted by Eir_S I think he was referring more to social interaction, and in that case, that seems prettt true to me. But I think it speaks to a larger problem, and is not specific to GW2, but to all MMORPGs. People simply want to play alone half the time these days, Back when I started on EQ1 everyone *wanted* to be social with the folks around them. PuGs were not viewed as a chore or a pain in the ass. I made friendships that span three continents and survive today over ten years later. I met so many cool people and had so much fun doing so. Then WoW and SWG....similar experience, but to a lesser degree. Now, people just play these games as solo games, grouping when they have to, rather than grouping and socializing being at the core. Also a problem, the social aspect in PuGs is impossible with these games now because of the fact that you have to button mash so much there is no idle time *to* chat. To the OP, I think a lack of interaction in GW2 is something you will see more and more of in MMORPGs, sadly. I would be surprised if it is the first game you have experienced this in. |
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7/29/12 4:58:59 PM#25
Originally posted by Kensaiken0 Those arent your only two options.
Keep in mind that just because it isnt the be all/end all WOW OMG BBQ game for YOU doesnt mean that it isnt for someone else.
Why would you consider that, because you dont like a game as much as someone else, either you are insane or they are ? Not flaming you but that is just not a healthy mindset.
1) GW2 is the most fun game that has ever been created to someone. 2) GW2 is the least fun game ever created to someone else. 3) GW2 is an OK game to someone 4) the "someones" mentioned in #'s 1 - 3 are all correct because fun is subjective. When all has been said and done, more will have been said than done. |
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7/29/12 5:02:02 PM#26
the game is fine .. I appreciate that it isn't for you. im not 100% convinced it is for me, but the game itself is good overall. it is a genre game an the genre has moved decidedly in the direction of games like this. you need a new genre, as do I. though I doubt one will be provided that interests me. LFD tools are great for cramming people into content, but quality > quantity. |
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7/29/12 5:05:11 PM#27
Originally posted by Rednecksith How good most of the fans think GW2 is and how good the haters / neutrals think the fans think GW2 is are two different things.
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7/29/12 5:06:45 PM#28
Certainly in the minority Mr 6 post guy.
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7/29/12 5:10:31 PM#29
It's not poor but it's seriously overrated. The internet will be full of disappointed fanboys 2-3 weeks after launch. |
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Vannor
Elite Member
Joined: 8/11/03
I am the lucid dream. BOW DOWN BEFORE THE GOD OF DEATH! |
7/29/12 5:11:44 PM#30
I can't understand how anyone could imply that TSW's combat is in anyway better or feels better than GW2's. I like TSW but the combat is well below what I would call average. |
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Foomerang
Advanced Member
Joined: 11/10/05
A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still |
7/29/12 5:14:08 PM#31
The game itself doesn't appeal to me. But to say its "poor"? I think you may not know a well made game when you see it. GW2 is one of the most well made mmos to come down the pipe in years. The features Anet have put in GW2 are very polished and high quality. That doesn't mean its a home run for every gamer out there. It doesn't mean its the perfect mmo for everyone. People have preferences. But you still can recognize a well made product if you follow video games at all. Themepark is not a sub genre, its an excuse. |
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7/29/12 5:21:20 PM#32
Originally posted by Kensaiken0
I seriously spat out what I was drinking at laughed at this. Though aside from having to clean up my monitor I would have to say that you have a very active opinion and I respect that. This is a matter of opinion; my opinion is that you're wrong. In fact, I have yet to see a game that is as aesthetically pleasing without alienating a wide range of computers. I'm trying to figure the definition of graphics as it is used in this post. It is my assuption that realism = High Graphical Fedility with regards to this post, of which I would agree (if used as such). Though those who have a bit more experience in the matter may assert that Aesthetical quality and goals met to match the original artwork concept = quality of graphics. Look upon some of the concept art and then at guild wars 2 on ultra high quality graphics and, in some cases, you may not even be able to tell the difference. Sanity is not what is at stake here. Many people just have differing opinions on what is and what isn't. When I laughed aloud (and made a mess of my work area) at your comment at TSW, it was just a natural reaction from my own beta experience. I felt it was incredibly boring to tank in that game, standing still and just AoEing (and further research into Nightmare modes via Twitch didn't exactly make the game shine for me). Yet ultimately it is foolhearty to judge a game during its beta (thus my opinion of TSW is less valid to someone who "gets it" and loves the full release), and even more drastically so to compare a game that has yet to release with other titles that have. Therefore any decision made by either side (when it comes to GW2) is concocted out of ignorance to the scene or overindulgence with their own opinions or the information that is available to them in limited quantity.
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Xzen
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Joined: 5/01/06
A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer's hands. |
7/29/12 5:24:09 PM#33
Originally posted by Kensaiken0 Your post is representing your opinion with out denigrating anyone. Awesome post. I'm sorry GW2 isn't your cup of tea and hope you enjoy what you're already playing or find a game that you do enjoy in the near future. |
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7/29/12 5:31:04 PM#34
Originally posted by Kensaiken0
Don't worry. Most players can't see past the GW2 " make up " to see WoW staring at them. |
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7/29/12 5:32:38 PM#35
You're not the only person, you're just in the minority. As were the people who thought WOW was a poor game way back when. Me, I find GW2 mediocre. From what I've played in the beta weekends of GW2, I thought TSW was the better game overall - though I'm not much fond of it either. To me, TSW has bad combat and the other stuff is good, it's just that there's still more combat in the game than anything else... Whereas GW2 has good combat and the other stuff (excepting graphics) is bad, and I'd rather play an action game if I'm playing solely for combat. In the end, GW2 is quite playable, and I am going to play it at launch, but I'm not really excited about it. It's obvious it'll do very well, though.
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7/29/12 5:33:40 PM#36
Originally posted by Kensaiken0 Im with you. But so many on this board are the same who got all excited about SWTOR and dive into the hype train. Now: Skyrim |
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7/29/12 5:39:09 PM#37
Originally posted by Aishirami I shouldn't have to join a fixed clique just to be able to interact with people in the world.
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7/29/12 5:40:53 PM#38
Originally posted by Eir_S Just about every MMO made before WoW, Vanguard, Darkfall, and Salem. My complaint is based upon observation throughout beta. Every single event I went on, I tried to talk to the people around me, and the only time I got an answer out of someone was a guy who went "ty" when I rezzed him, then ran off when I tried to talk to them. It feels like I'm playing with NPCs. There's no real cooperation. |
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7/29/12 5:42:59 PM#39
Originally posted by Kensaiken0 Poor is the last word is would use to refer to GW2. The game breathes detail & love put into a game. You can see it & you can feel it in every bit of the game. ArenaNet did an amazing job.
But at the end is all about tastes i guess.... |
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7/29/12 5:43:35 PM#40
Originally posted by Xzen Agreed. I also do not see eye to eye with the OP, but at least he's not trolling or hating on others. |
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