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I noticed all the other Guild Wars are on steam, anyone know if GW2 will be on there too? |
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7/28/12 7:38:45 PM#2
Not at launch. If in 1982 we played with the current mentality, we would have burned down all the pac man games since the red ghost was clearly OP. Instead we just got better at the game. |
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7/28/12 7:40:21 PM#3
Not on launch. However, u can use the steam overlay on all games. We’ll stop to sleep when the game is the best possible game we think it can be. We’ve seen the population of the game steadily rising lately and we’re not going to sit on our butts and congratulate one another, we’re going to try and build on that momentum and make the game even better. -Colin johanson on GW2 |
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7/28/12 8:09:00 PM#4
Originally posted by The_Argo No. Anet and Valve had a disagreement and as such, GW2 will not be on Steam.
Originally Posted by Mike O’Brien, President and Founder of ArenaNet No, it almost certainly won't be on Steam. Valve has some new business terms will keep almost all new MMOs off Steam. Keep in mind the GW2 client is free to download from our web site and has no copy protection. (And if it's really important, you can add non-Steam games to your Steam library.)
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7/28/12 10:27:54 PM#5
I already added gw2 to my steam library ;) |
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7/28/12 10:39:16 PM#6
Originally posted by khamul787 That quote doesn't make sense to me and is factually false. There are MMOs on Steam, EVE-Online (Sub), DDO (F2P) etc. ANet had a disagreement with Value, fine. But I found that attack on Steam really unprofessional and expected better. Wonder why there seems to be more haters on the internet? Read this by an actual marketing guy to find out why. |
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7/28/12 10:42:07 PM#7
Originally posted by jpnz Notice he used the words "new MMOs". EVE and DDO aren't exactly new.
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7/28/12 10:43:38 PM#8
It may be unproffesional but is it surprising? I doubt it is untrue. Valve has made a big push for MMO's lately and other F2P titles. I woulden't be surprised if they were laying down new rules. I would be curious to find out what those rules are. I imagine they are specific depending on agreements but I also suspect there are broad general rules, which Valve likely wanted to enforce on GW2. Maybe it has something to do with the Steam wallet? Do Steam MMO's all support buying points for the MMO's in question with Steam cash? That could be something if it is the case, as setting up such a thing could be difficult and time/resource consuming. |
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Flex1
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7/28/12 10:45:20 PM#9
A cut from the cash store.
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7/28/12 10:51:46 PM#10
My wife and I already have our pre-purchased copies of GW2; I couldn't care less if GW2 is on Steam or not. Overall, I would say its a loss for Steam more than for GW2. |
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7/28/12 10:58:38 PM#11
Originally posted by Ginaz Not really, that quote was from 2010 I think. DDO was added after that quote when Steam decided to support F2P. Looking at EVE-Online, Steam doesn't take a cut from their cash-shop so it can't be that. (This is from CCP's 2011 financial statements) Like I said, I don't care GW2 isn't on Steam but I did find ANet's attack on Steam odd and disappointing. Wonder why there seems to be more haters on the internet? Read this by an actual marketing guy to find out why. |
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7/28/12 11:31:05 PM#12
Arenanet has said Guild Wars 2 will not be on Steam, they didn't as far as I know give any detail about why not.
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Lord.Bachus
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7/29/12 12:48:11 AM#13
Originally posted by RameiArashi
No. Anet and Valve had a disagreement and as such, GW2 will not be on Steam.
Originally Posted by Mike O’Brien, President and Founder of ArenaNet No, it almost certainly won't be on Steam. Valve has some new business terms will keep almost all new MMOs off Steam. Keep in mind the GW2 client is free to download from our web site and has no copy protection. (And if it's really important, you can add non-Steam games to your Steam library.) Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) |
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7/29/12 1:01:39 AM#14
My understanding is that if you are running the Steam version of a game, you must be able to pay for in-game purchases using your Steam wallet. I don't think this rule is retroactive, which is why you can still find games that don't follow it such as GW1. In other words, yes, Valve would be taking a cut of not only GW2 sales but all GW2 gem sales made from the Steam version of the game as well. For most companies, the exposure you get on Steam is more than worth Valve's price (see Spiral Knights), but ArenaNet already has the exposure they need and gain almost nothing by selling the game on Steam. It makes almost no difference to the end user unless you really wanted to spend your Steam wallet funds on gems. You would need an account with ArenaNet either way. "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." -Dr. Seuss |
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Lobotomist
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Joined: 5/20/07
I got so much |
7/29/12 1:16:01 AM#15
While it would certanly benefit GW2 sales , I doubt it will happen and really there is no real reason.
The game launcher is so slim, and the game launches so fast. Steam will only make it slower. |
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7/29/12 1:28:32 AM#16
steam is a 3rd party, imagine if we had WoW on steam for exemple. patch would be live like week after for steam user. or maybe 2 week its just like xbox and ps3 when a game need patch from a company they have to get in touch with microsoft/sony and they have to check the patch and blah blah
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Lord.Bachus
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I believe in life before death... So dont forget to enjoy it while you still can. |
7/29/12 1:38:01 AM#17
Originally posted by Lobotomist Personally i think that Steam is just to expensive espescially for games that have very regular updates. I think that that is the reason for the conflict between Anet and steam, money, Steam is just way to expensive, makes more money on a game selling through steam then a retailer does. Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) |
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7/29/12 1:47:48 AM#18
Apparently, many people do not understand how to make money or how the economy works. Steam takes cuts of all sales. A cash shop will simply not work for the game. Games like Firefall and what not are following the same idea here. Do you not understand why EA tried to create Origin? It is pretty apparent to me. Steam is simply a marketing tool, or something to use if you can't host everything yourself. Beyond that, you are just going to lose boat loads of money to them, especially if your only way to make money is in-game cash shop transactions past the price of the box. I doubt this will ever be on Steam. GW1 isn't, so why would GW2? |
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7/29/12 1:49:23 AM#19
Guild wars 1 is.
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Lord.Bachus
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I believe in life before death... So dont forget to enjoy it while you still can. |
7/29/12 1:53:28 AM#20
Originally posted by Nitth Yes, but it was added to steam when they allready stopped developing new content for it.
This whole steam experience with GW1 must have tought GW2 that they cant win much from joining up with steam and that they can make more money when hosting thier own download centre for GW2. I think Arenanet is quite capapble of marketing their own game better then it could in the massive steam environment. Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) |
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